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Old 11-17-2007, 05:33 PM
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Before this turns into an even bigger flame wars!

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Quian'Dor is one of the crappiest servers ive seen, unless it is 2 weeks old.
Seriously Knightmare, you didnt see ANYTHING of Quian'Dor yet, nor did you read what we have in store for the community. We have ONE level open for the public which has just some showoff tiles and the new style of trees, and you think we haven't been working on this at all?

I've been writing about Quian'Dor, its storyline, and the possibilities for it, for more then a year now. I've been planning this through and through and I thought of it MYSELF.
Dont tell me what is "crappy" or what isn't, because if you cant think of anything better then another era clone, you have no right to speak.

Now, can a mod please remove these posts like they always do? -_-
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:36 PM
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Before this turns into an even bigger flame wars!

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Seriously Knightmare, you didnt see ANYTHING of Quian'Dor yet, nor did you read what we have in store for the community. We have ONE level open for the public which has just some showoff tiles and the new style of trees, and you think we haven't been working on this at all?

I've been writing about Quian'Dor, its storyline, and the possibilities for it, for more then a year now. I've been planning this through and through and I thought of it MYSELF.
Dont tell me what is "crappy" or what isn't, because if you cant think of anything better then another era clone, you have no right to speak.

Now, can a mod please remove these posts like they always do? -_-
I think they should keep them in place to show how much of a fool he is.
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Old 11-17-2007, 05:58 PM
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Hmm, it's time for a Kirble input.

Let's compare the servers in question...in the red corner, we have Quian'Dor, and in the Blue corner, Utopia.

Ideas
Quian'Dor - For the stories I have read, vast player functions, ideas for character races, the island system etc etc, I could go on. It all seems excellently planned.

Utopia - Work. Get money. Buy Gun. Kill noobs. The classic way of how things are run.

1 point Quian'Dor.

Graphics
Quian'Dor - The graphics remain cartoony, but have an element of realism. They look an extent of real which doesn't consider them cartoony, but maintain a cartoony feel in which they can't be called real. I like the new style.

Utopia - From looking around the server, I see the lack of shading, the over-cartoony look for what is supposed to be a "realistic" server? If I am perceiving correctly and I notice that signs are not hand written but use sploged text.

1 point Quian'Dor.

Main level
Quian'Dor - The main level is constructed nicely. Shows off some of the graphics, gives an example of the player-houses and main buildings on the island and also contains information for players visiting. Quite nice.

Utopia - Looks like a rip of the old online start place on Era. Surrounded by a poorly designed "bush" or what looks more like a green block. There appear to be no trees present. There are roads present, which look slightly repetitive and the grass looks like someone was let loose with a spray can.

Sorry but, 1 point Quian'Dor.

GUI and Icons
Quian'Dor - The GUI is nicely designed, contains a close button and is drag-able at the moment, also contains a handy feature of a right click lock-drag. The icons, seen on the preset GUI are nicely made, simple, but nothing too detailed. Do the job to a tee.

Utopia - The GUI locks in with the player-world as a whole, it fits the same theme, although the back of the boxes seem a little rushed and pointless. The icons are even less to be desired, however, on the small collection of two I have, they seem rushed and quite shoddy, especially the events coin and the events laser gun.

Another 1 for Quian'Dor.

Other things
Quian'Dor - There doesn't appear to be much at the moment, there is a nice news GUI that pops up centre screen when logged on. This is nice.

Utopia - Events menu's etc a lot of use of the blue Graal GUI's, nicely used, but maybe a little too much. There is a bit more done than on Quian'Dor.

1 point to Utopia it is then.


Let's total up shall we?
4-1

It would appear, that Quian'Dor has won it over with less work done.

Quality, not quantity.
This may be what the staff of Utopia need to bear in mind.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:17 PM
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Hmm, it's time for a Kirble input.

Let's compare the servers in question...in the red corner, we have Quian'Dor, and in the Blue corner, Utopia.

Ideas
Quian'Dor - For the stories I have read, vast player functions, ideas for character races, the island system etc etc, I could go on. It all seems excellently planned.

Utopia - Work. Get money. Buy Gun. Kill noobs. The classic way of how things are run.

1 point Quian'Dor.

Graphics
Quian'Dor - The graphics remain cartoony, but have an element of realism. They look an extent of real which doesn't consider them cartoony, but maintain a cartoony feel in which they can't be called real. I like the new style.

Utopia - From looking around the server, I see the lack of shading, the over-cartoony look for what is supposed to be a "realistic" server? If I am perceiving correctly and I notice that signs are not hand written but use sploged text.

1 point Quian'Dor.

Main level
Quian'Dor - The main level is constructed nicely. Shows off some of the graphics, gives an example of the player-houses and main buildings on the island and also contains information for players visiting. Quite nice.

Utopia - Looks like a rip of the old online start place on Era. Surrounded by a poorly designed "bush" or what looks more like a green block. There appear to be no trees present. There are roads present, which look slightly repetitive and the grass looks like someone was let loose with a spray can.

Sorry but, 1 point Quian'Dor.

GUI and Icons
Quian'Dor - The GUI is nicely designed, contains a close button and is drag-able at the moment, also contains a handy feature of a right click lock-drag. The icons, seen on the preset GUI are nicely made, simple, but nothing too detailed. Do the job to a tee.

Utopia - The GUI locks in with the player-world as a whole, it fits the same theme, although the back of the boxes seem a little rushed and pointless. The icons are even less to be desired, however, on the small collection of two I have, they seem rushed and quite shoddy, especially the events coin and the events laser gun.

Another 1 for Quian'Dor.

Other things
Quian'Dor - There doesn't appear to be much at the moment, there is a nice news GUI that pops up centre screen when logged on. This is nice.

Utopia - Events menu's etc a lot of use of the blue Graal GUI's, nicely used, but maybe a little too much. There is a bit more done than on Quian'Dor.

1 point to Utopia it is then.


Let's total up shall we?
4-1

It would appear, that Quian'Dor has won it over with less work done.

Quality, not quantity.
This may be what the staff of Utopia need to bear in mind.
I can agree with Kirble in a way, but in other ways, not.

First of all.. Quian'Dor Tileset is really, pretty terrible. The water is okay, roofs are okay, but everything else is a Fail.

Second, What GUI? I see no GUI. All I see is some welcome screen.

Thirdly, Quian'Dor seems to have potential, but none as been shown.

Fourth(ly?), You're only Voting for Quian'Dor because you work there.

Also;
What makes Utopia different from Era?
Thats easy!
Staff!
Era's staff is so bad right now, Playerworld Administrators actually had to come and run the server. GP's jail people for telling them to get out of a wheelchair, and all the Staff are either Idling on RC, or Ignore you when you ask them a General Question.
I can't say I answer every question, because getting Four million PM's from players, it gets really annoying.

Well, while were talking about differences from Era, lets talk about old GX;
What made GX Different from Era?
Only thing I can honestly think of is the money making, and police, and the Economy.

Thats just my input.


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Old 11-17-2007, 06:28 PM
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The tile-set is ugly? I believe it looks quite nice, and will suit the server when finished. I believe it is far superior a tile-set than that of Utopia.

Secondly, the GUI is still being scripted but obviously I have access to it and have seen the features.

Thirdly, I don't just say Quian'Dor is better because I work there, why should I, what motive would I have to say it's better than anything on Graal?

Fourthly, Quian'Dor does have potential, the potential is shown in the vast amounts of text based planning that Pimmeh has created. This will be shown to players over time.

End note:
Utopia is different from Era because of the staff?
I believe that they are of the same descriptions. For example, I decided to look around the server:

The staff make crude jokes during events towards one another.

Events were ruined by staff conversation through event commands (Quiz)

I asked a question, 5 times over the course of ten minutes, to your active co-manager, various Events Team and other staff. To which I received no reply.

Please tell me that this is not the description you gave of Era staff?
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:43 PM
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The tile-set is ugly? I believe it looks quite nice, and will suit the server when finished. I believe it is far superior a tile-set than that of Utopia.

Secondly, the GUI is still being scripted but obviously I have access to it and have seen the features.

Thirdly, I don't just say Quian'Dor is better because I work there, why should I, what motive would I have to say it's better than anything on Graal?

Fourthly, Quian'Dor does have potential, the potential is shown in the vast amounts of text based planning that Pimmeh has created. This will be shown to players over time.

End note:
Utopia is different from Era because of the staff?
I believe that they are of the same descriptions. For example, I decided to look around the server:

The staff make crude jokes during events towards one another.

Events were ruined by staff conversation through event commands (Quiz)

I asked a question, 5 times over the course of ten minutes, to your active co-manager, various Events Team and other staff. To which I received no reply.

Please tell me that this is not the description you gave of Era staff?
well, considering the staff here actually work half the time, the era staff sit there and play with a weapon or there cars that they got from editing atribs and whatnot. and hey, if its being scripted, why not show it? QierDoor is a crappy server, face it. a realistic gun server is way better than a pokemon-gameboy graphic server.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:46 PM
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well, considering the staff here actually work half the time, the era staff sit there and play with a weapon or there cars that they got from editing atribs and whatnot. and hey, if its being scripted, why not show it? QierDoor is a crappy server, face it. a realistic gun server is way better than a pokemon-gameboy graphic server.
pokemon on the original gameboy I bet was better than Utopia. So there.
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Old 11-17-2007, 06:54 PM
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well, considering the staff here actually work half the time, the era staff sit there and play with a weapon or there cars that they got from editing atribs and whatnot. and hey, if its being scripted, why not show it? QierDoor is a crappy server, face it. a realistic gun server is way better than a pokemon-gameboy graphic server.
Oh. My. God.
YOU NEVER EVEN GAVE AN EFFING ARGUMENT FOR YOUR OPINION!
Btw...l2spell...
I have no words for this, seriously.
A gun server is way better then a pokemon-gameboy graphic server.
Did you even SEE the tileset longer then ten seconds?
DID YOU SEE POKEMON-ISH SPRITES?
DONT VOICE YOUR OPINION ABOUT SOMETHING YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT!
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:11 PM
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well, considering the staff here actually work half the time, the era staff sit there and play with a weapon or there cars that they got from editing atribs and whatnot. and hey, if its being scripted, why not show it? QierDoor is a crappy server, face it. a realistic gun server is way better than a pokemon-gameboy graphic server.
Ahh, our bad for not showing half finished work, unlike you guys. You lot seem to have it down that releasing a half finished job is better than waiting until it's finished, tested and completely working. Once again, our bad.

Also, pokemon-gameboy graphics? Wouldn't that be a complement considering you bought one of the games, for your game-boy, which would have cost you what, £15-£20 back in the day. Pokemon sold worldwide MILLIONS of copies of games, MILLIONS of merchandise, and all for those "pokemon-gameboy graphics" as you call them.
Thanks for the compliment knightmare, don't expect one back however as this conversation terminates at the next full stop.
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Old 11-17-2007, 07:12 PM
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well, considering the staff here actually work half the time, the era staff sit there and play with a weapon or there cars that they got from editing atribs and whatnot. and hey, if its being scripted, why not show it? QierDoor is a crappy server, face it. a realistic gun server is way better than a pokemon-gameboy graphic server.
A realistic gun server? For that, I'll go play Era, for the more realism it has over Utopia.

I tell you, no more shall we talk about Quian'Dor (as much publicity as it's getting), but I'll end this argument with the simple fact that Utopia is a really bad rip off of Era. No ifs, no buts. EVERYONE KNOWS THIS. The only thing you can say is different is the staff and cheaper guns. That doesn't make it a whole lot different.
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well, considering the staff here actually work half the time, the era staff sit there and play with a weapon or there cars that they got from editing atribs and whatnot
Have you ever been a proper staff member on Era? No? Then shut the hell up.
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Utopia is pretty bad and btw Quian'Dor doesn't suck...
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