I want the Forum to be public

[zokemon]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

I don't know about you guys, but, back in the days when I was a trial account - I used to read the forums almost everyday. The Small Guys are watching us.

I wouldn't know since I signed up like right when the forums opened.

[Mykel]

Wait, is Moonie complaining about people not helping trials after earlier in the thread agreeing that it was a horrible idea to let trials post here? Hm.

[kia345]

Someone's giving her money so she'll side with them.

There's USDing afoot.

[Mykel]

Look at the Graal Online website. There is no tutorial at all. Brief descriptions of playerworlds that could be confusing to unknowing players are all that is offered. The teachings of the inner workings of the game is 100% the responsibility of the new player and/or other, more knowledgeable players.

Early-game confusion drives new players away, and constant nagging can result in an annoyance for established players. While it is nice for older players to embrace newbies and show them the ropes, it isn't their job. It is Graal Online's job. Personally, I don't think that keeping players is Graal's big problem, it is more so getting newer players.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Googi

I've spent a fair amount of time on Zodiac, but what you're pretty much saying is that players frequently check each other's profiles and then considerably alter their behaviour based on what it says under "Upgradestatus".

That isn't what I am saying. A lot of new people, if they don't know the appropriate way to do things by some oldbies standards, mass questions, or ask questions in game, or post questions on the forums, and are made fun of. You can pretty much tell a new person from an older one.

Originally Posted by Mykel

Look at the Graal Online website. There is no tutorial at all. Brief descriptions of playerworlds that could be confusing to unknowing players are all that is offered. The teachings of the inner workings of the game is 100% the responsibility of the new player and/or other, more knowledgeable players.

Early-game confusion drives new players away, and constant nagging can result in an annoyance for established players. While it is nice for older players to embrace newbies and show them the ropes, it isn't their job. It is Graal Online's job. Personally, I don't think that keeping players is Graal's big problem, it is more so getting newer players.

I agree the Graal website needs a lot of work, and I agree that there needs to be good tutorials, and I also can agree that it can be irritating to be asked constant questions. I usually tell new players to ask a FAQ if they have a lot of questions. Really, I do see what you are saying, and I do agree, but you and I are not really talking about the same thing. I am talking about people who actually target new people for fun, not people who really don't want to help new players, and get frustrated.
It isn't their job, you are right, but some people are just rude and insulting for fun...actually more than just a few people are like that now a days, and it is in game and on the forums. More so on the game though.

Originally Posted by BlueFireX

OH AND BACK ON TOPIC

why make this forum public all you have to do is buy life-time classic. You will not have to buy anything else after that if you wanted to post no 8 hours wait or anything.

Some people believe that all people should be able to post and not have to pay a dime for anything, ever. *shrugs*

[Googi]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

That isn't what I am saying. A lot of new people, if they don't know the appropriate way to do things by some oldbies standards, mass questions, or ask questions in game, or post questions on the forums, and are made fun of. You can pretty much tell a new person from an older one.

This is how every society operates and has nothing to do with account status, or even how long someone has been playing. It has to do with following the accepted mores/norms of the forum/Zodiac/UN/2K2 community, etc (since they vary from server to server to an extent). New players (who may or may not be trials) do not know them, but a person who knew them and chose not to follow them would be treated in much the same way.

[MisterMastermind]

Getting trials used to graal is the job of the FAQ's. All that's really needed is a notice to trials on every server telling them that FAQ members are there to help, and how to PM. I'd rather not waste time I paid for attempting to help some guy just trying the game out.

[Zideruic]

I remember on Graal2000 there was always that cave that told you the controls, told you about a lot of quests and i think it had a link or two to some helpful sites, I don't recall though.

[BlueFireX]

Ha I just went on UN for about 4 minutes went into the taylor and what do I see a trial with 3 hours. Someone walks up to him and say why are you playing you are a trial. The trial respond "well i'm not white so i dont spend money on crap" I come along and say "shut up k mate" he starts flaming me and I end up saying "I am mix what are you" he said "i m latino homes" so I say "huh homes? cant afford 39 bucks homes? Standing outside of homedeopt not getting you enough money homes" and pow since that trial was a friend to a ****** p2p and who is a friend of the GP i got jailed instant without a warning or the trial getting jailed. Why give them access to this forum when they can not even take the time to spell out 'you'.

[MisterMastermind]

Originally Posted by BlueFireX

Ha I just went on UN for about 4 minutes went into the taylor and what do I see a trial with 3 hours. Someone walks up to him and say why are you playing you are a trial. The trial respond "well i'm not white so i dont spend money on crap" I come along and say "shut up k mate" he starts flaming me and I end up saying "I am mix what are you" he said "i m latino homes" so I say "huh homes? cant afford 39 bucks homes? Standing outside of homedeopt not getting you enough money homes" and pow since that trial was a friend to a ****** p2p and who is a friend of the GP i got jailed instant without a warning or the trial getting jailed. Why give them access to this forum when they can not even take the time to spell out 'you'.

You were also harassing him, and I'm pretty sure I can remember you being racially intolerant on more than one account on zodiac. You also escalated the harassment.

[BlueFireX]

he I never been a racist on zodiac infact the only thing i talked about on zodiac was either training, buying item or checking someone hat or head :P

Plus he was the one who started the insults i just told him to shut up