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Old 07-21-2006, 10:05 PM
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osht.. you didn't? Sorry ;(
Better be.

Anyways I think the reason why the economy is so messed up is because people that previously owned businesses/gangs get it back absolutely free, making it extremely easy for them to earn money causing the economy to become unbalanced.

There's a lot more ways to distribute businesses/gangs.
1. Obviously there's the Auction House that way the people that worked the hardest will get it.
2. You can publicly vote for it, but with a limited amount of candidates mostly previous owners/co-owners. Select who you think is best for the job. For example, for Black Holst you can vote between Meph, Gsput, Kae, and ionno Warhead? That way we prevent useless gang leaders and it will keep gangs active.
3. You can let staff decide and let them pick what they think is best.

I favor the 1st choice for businesses. If you're going to work hard why can't you be the one that becomes the richest?

The 2nd choice for gangs. If you're a gang leader atm and you're truly a good one then people will vote for you, if you don't like this idea there's obviously a reason why.

I think we should bring back the taxing system. That way even though the business sells something that costs a huge amount of money like colts (4300) there's still a way to stop them from gaining immense amts of cash.

Also when there's an item that's not stocked the owner of the business loses money over time.

There's the weapons' parts shop which makes the owner of the business use around 1000g to make the gun, but obviously it's not enough. Same for gangs and their gang weapons.

Also to prevent someone from selling gang guns and earning 500k (Maverick) I also think we should consider tag locking gang guns. That way people won't want them as much, and it will keep the gun a "gang gun." Also it will make people stay in gangs keeping gangs as active as possible.
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Old 07-22-2006, 06:18 PM
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Anyways I think the reason why the economy is so messed up is because people that previously owned businesses/gangs get it back absolutely free, making it extremely easy for them to earn money causing the economy to become unbalanced.
True no script can fix this the only way is if staff does something.

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There's a lot more ways to distribute businesses/gangs.
1. Obviously there's the Auction House that way the people that worked the hardest will get it.
2. You can publicly vote for it, but with a limited amount of candidates mostly previous owners/co-owners. Select who you think is best for the job. For example, for Black Holst you can vote between Meph, Gsput, Kae, and ionno Warhead? That way we prevent useless gang leaders and it will keep gangs active.
3. You can let staff decide and let them pick what they think is best.
1. This is a bad idea becuse you could have someone who picked flowers for like a week nonstop thats really a newbie buy a gang.

2. Thats a good idea.

3. :-/ might wana take number two on this becuse I doubt anything would change if we went this way.

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I think we should bring back the taxing system. That way even though the business sells something that costs a huge amount of money like colts (4300) there's still a way to stop them from gaining immense amts of cash.
Good idea but kinda bad IE PT didnt stock colts 24/7 becuse they tryed to keep the price up if taxes ate up the cash they made from the limited sells of the colts they wouldent be making much at all. (I also think this would hurt businesses and people would raise the prices on the items.)

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Also when there's an item that's not stocked the owner of the business loses money over time.
This is a good idea

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There's the weapons' parts shop which makes the owner of the business use around 1000g to make the gun, but obviously it's not enough. Same for gangs and their gang weapons.
I would say it is becuse when a guns released staff nurf it then people sell it on the street for like 1k-2k (MD5) a guy whos shop gets billed has to make some money to get ahead.


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Also to prevent someone from selling gang guns and earning 500k (Maverick) I also think we should consider tag locking gang guns. That way people won't want them as much, and it will keep the gun a "gang gun." Also it will make people stay in gangs keeping gangs as active as possible.
You would have alot of people pop over to the best gang gun like LC's 552 another reason staff didnt taglock I think was becuse people *****ed about PI's old guns.
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Old 07-23-2006, 12:47 AM
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1. This is a bad idea becuse you could have someone who picked flowers for like a week nonstop thats really a newbie buy a gang.
If a person works hard and has the money for something, they should be able to buy it; it's a free market economy for the most part.
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Old 07-23-2006, 02:18 AM
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If a person works hard and has the money for something, they should be able to buy it; it's a free market economy for the most part.
The biggest reason why that wouldn't work ,Someone with 10 hours with no experience at all in a gang or anything would have a gang..Never mind the fact if it was a trial or a newb they probably would sell the gang for like 5k or get scammed out of it.

I agree with #2 of what nub said of letting us have a vote between active past leaders or top heads but not only for gangs but businesses too..

Speedy Pizza wasn't rereleased this reset because the person who owned it before reset was Morano and didn't come back..I was co owner and was never even contacted but that isn't the point.
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Old 07-23-2006, 05:01 AM
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If a person works hard and has the money for something, they should be able to buy it; it's a free market economy for the most part.
The gangs with say two years history have actually been participating in the development of their in-game content. You really don't have any right to hijack something that's been worked on for so long.

Perhaps you should petition for that new Irish gang or somesuch?
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Old 07-29-2006, 04:19 AM
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If a person works hard and has the money for something, they should be able to buy it; it's a free market economy for the most part.

You hve no idea about leadership. Buying gangs will never, ever work. Don't even try and bring that in here. You complain you want a gang, but you wouldn't last 3 hours leading it, and if you did you would fill with a bunch of low skilled players and been overrun in a second from someone who actually can lead. Then you would cry about it. No, not ever.Giving it to the old gang leaders usually is a better bet then selling the gang off or voting on a new leader, unless the leadership choice is limited like Nub said and that still might not work. I say no to this idea of selling gang wholeheartedly.
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Old 07-30-2006, 02:36 PM
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You hve no idea about leadership. Buying gangs will never, ever work. Don't even try and bring that in here. You complain you want a gang, but you wouldn't last 3 hours leading it, and if you did you would fill with a bunch of low skilled players and been overrun in a second from someone who actually can lead. Then you would cry about it. No, not ever.Giving it to the old gang leaders usually is a better bet then selling the gang off or voting on a new leader, unless the leadership choice is limited like Nub said and that still might not work. I say no to this idea of selling gang wholeheartedly.
Eh, hmm.. I lasted a LOT longer then 3 hours.. I must be a god
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Old 08-03-2006, 10:24 AM
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You hve no idea about leadership. Buying gangs will never, ever work. Don't even try and bring that in here. You complain you want a gang, but you wouldn't last 3 hours leading it, and if you did you would fill with a bunch of low skilled players and been overrun in a second from someone who actually can lead. Then you would cry about it. No, not ever.Giving it to the old gang leaders usually is a better bet then selling the gang off or voting on a new leader, unless the leadership choice is limited like Nub said and that still might not work. I say no to this idea of selling gang wholeheartedly.

I would never want to own nor operate a gang, I personally don't like attachments aside loose association.

A reset is a reset, old gangs should be TRASHED if we're to have a real reset. New things should go to those who work hardest for them, nothing should be a handout as things have been.

P.S. I hate *****es like you who talk in condescending tones to people they don't know.
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