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[MisterMastermind]

Reset.

[shrimps]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

I voted "yes."

I believe, it desperatly needs a reset.

I'm getting annoyed with the old one and its lag.


RESET!

NEW COMPUTER!

[k0rupt_ed]

ol yeh realy thats your crappy computer or connection lagging.

But yeh reset, do it already.

[WanDaMan]

Originally Posted by Skyld

The current overworld has had so much thrown into it over time that it hasn't been very well thought out. Introducing a new overworld allows us to ensure that everything we have that we want now fits, whilst catering for additional things, such as quests, new areas, etc.

Fair enough, how many people will be working on the new overworld? Will it be bigger than the current Era?

[KuJi]

Originally Posted by k0rupt_ed

lol this guy..

Eh?

[Bl0nkt]

Originally Posted by Spyder-z2

Hey Sklyd, you made a poll on the offical forums, non of the old players's votes even really count.
All you people complaining about "omg /cry make era a non-popularity contest /cry!", how about you play era for more than 2 months before you talk? People who have been here for years, people who worked up their rep and made it into power, why don't you think about us? All you're getting in this poll are the players who have played era for a few months, mabye weeks, and are behind. Man, I bet only 25% of them will still be playing after the reset anyway. But don't worry about the massive loss of players who have stuck through with Era, who leave after this reset. Only the newer players matter now, right? The players that will just cry 4 months after the reset about how so and so has a SG552 and they want one too, or how this one girl has a katana and it's too rigged, those players are the only people that matter now, right?
Seriously, why can't we have it the way players want it? We are the ones paying/playing the damn game.. Ok, so you globals get it the way you want it? Is that all that matters? You guys are adding so many fancy npcs and systems that NONE OF THE PLAYERS WANT! I mean really, if we HAVE to reset, why can't we just strip Era down to what it use to be back in Chrisz's Era. The players LOVED it! Why can't we get a real say in this? The real players, the OLD players? The people who have stuck to era through all this garbage, can't we get a break?

This post is related to the reset in question, thank you.

Got my full attention. This is exactly what I'm aiming for.

[Alure1316]

reset everything, and change everything.

the guns are so unbalanced.
since when does a little 9mm handgun do more damage than an automatic 5.56 mm rifle.
seriously.
also, change the gun sfx. if you want i could get some realistic sfx (not gonna tell you where i get them from, but at least they'll be realistic )
and also, no fake guns. wtf is this bulldog that throws out electricity. if you wanted something like that you could have just put a taser

but anyways, yeah. i'm down for a reset. it'll be better for era, the only thing that would suck is that it wouldn't be the same overworld.

[lancelot9]

Reset

new tiles
new guns
new overworld

every thing on era is obsolete.. In my opinion anyway. I've seen things done better on some servers when people just rush through them.

[KuJi]

Taking forever.. to reset. z.z

If you don't reset, you should divide every bank account by 2 and get rid of every gun that someone has two of.

AND THEN:
restore KuJi's axe + bher + 150k

[-Ching]

banning kuji, i'd vote for that

[k0rupt_ed]

Originally Posted by -Ching

banning kuji, i'd vote for that

oh hush with your immaturity

[KuJi]

Originally Posted by -Ching

banning kuji, i'd vote for that

And you are? ;o.

*Edit*
Also.. don't forget to donate to the KuJi went from richest to poorest on era donation :o.

Currently @ 13k, and a Bher / Famas. (From donations)

[Celarion]

Please, I beg of you, make it only a guns/money reset!

I can stand spending another month digging and mining to save up money and restore some of my items. The gym is torture! :O

[warp2ukew]

Originally Posted by Alure1316

reset everything, and change everything.

the guns are so unbalanced.
since when does a little 9mm handgun do more damage than an automatic 5.56 mm rifle.
seriously.
also, change the gun sfx. if you want i could get some realistic sfx (not gonna tell you where i get them from, but at least they'll be realistic )
and also, no fake guns. wtf is this bulldog that throws out electricity. if you wanted something like that you could have just put a taser

but anyways, yeah. i'm down for a reset. it'll be better for era, the only thing that would suck is that it wouldn't be the same overworld.

This is a GAME.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by warp2ukew

This is a GAME.

I know, really. OLOL WTF IS w/ ELECTRCITY GUNS as if bulldog is the only one.

Rofl.

[White_Roy]

Originally Posted by KuJi

And you are? ;o.

*Edit*
Also.. don't forget to donate to the KuJi went from richest to poorest on era donation :o.

Currently @ 13k, and a Bher / Famas. (From donations)

Whoa who gave you the right to use Nub's style of flaming?

Celarion it's obvious we're all going to have to start all over again. I'm going to have to start gathering EC's again and you're going to have to work at the gym. Stop crying.

[k0rupt_ed]

Originally Posted by White_Roy

Whoa who gave you the right to use Nub's style of flaming?

lolz

Anyway, some of you people need to get out more its summer go play football or something. A reset isnt the worse thing in the world chill out.

[Shotoo2]

Originally Posted by lancelot9

every thing on era is obsolete

Because you said so?
Everything on Era has been created over years and years of continous development.
They aren't going to trash it all and start over.

[k0rupt_ed]

everything is one word btw

[lancelot9]

Shotoo2.

and sorry, its a game forum, im not applying for a job.

Everything**** on era has been the SAME over years and years of continous development.

And they probably arent going to trash everything****. Thier loss.
Imagine with a fresh start, how much better Era can become.. sure you might think it is great now... but by starting from scratch they can fix EVERY SINGLE flaw.

[KuJi]

Originally Posted by White_Roy

Whoa who gave you the right to use Nub's style of flaming?

osht.. you didn't? Sorry ;(

Originally Posted by lancelot9

Imagine with a fresh start, how much better Era can become.. sure you might think it is great now... but by starting from scratch they can fix EVERY SINGLE flaw.

We don't need to wait another year... theres a lot of flaws to era ;o.

[k0rupt_ed]

Starting with the staff.

[Celarion]

Originally Posted by lancelot9

Shotoo2.

and sorry, its a game forum, im not applying for a job.

Everything**** on era has been the SAME over years and years of continous development.

And they probably arent going to trash everything****. Thier loss.
Imagine with a fresh start, how much better Era can become.. sure you might think it is great now... but by starting from scratch they can fix EVERY SINGLE flaw.

...
If they started Era "From scratch" again, Era would then become just like one of it's 10 or so clones. Barely started, unfunctional and completely crap.

You neither remove defects from code nor improve weapon balance by implementing a completely new system.

Originally Posted by White_Roy

Whoa who gave you the right to use Nub's style of flaming?

Celarion it's obvious we're all going to have to start all over again. I'm going to have to start gathering EC's again and you're going to have to work at the gym. Stop crying.

Well, if the reset's really about rebooting the economy, then stats are more the innocent bystander of what Skyld considers a necessary surgical strike.
In that vein, and not wanting to spend another 75 hours pressing my right key over and over again, I am begging you all to let sleeping stats lay.

[Bl0nkt]

Originally Posted by k0rupt_ed

Starting with the staff.

The hell are you bickering about now?

[lancelot9]

Ok.

You are trying to tell me that you dont get rid of defects by rescripting?
Thats total BS, how old are those scripts.. honestly.

And also, yeah, starting from scratch will take time.. you need patients for a good server to be developed... something alotta era staff dont have, thats why there are so many flaws in the firstplace. I mean, honeslty, your only thinkin about yourself when you post stuff like that.. you just wanna play your favorite server, if it sucks or not, you dont want the wait.

got an idea, go get some sun...

[KuJi]

Originally Posted by lancelot9

Ok.

You are trying to tell me that you dont get rid of defects by rescripting?
Thats total BS, how old are those scripts.. honestly.

Not old at all.. it was just recently recoded into GS2.. I think era's the only GS2 classic server.

[Shotoo2]

Originally Posted by lancelot9

Thats total BS, how old are those scripts.. honestly.

Just about everything was rescripted in the last 6 months.

Era isn't Atrius, sorry. We don't just redo the entire server whenever we get bored.

[xAndrewx]

Not everything is GS2, but alot of it is.
Mainly, the clientside stuff isn't GS2, apart from the system NPC.
Playermovement, weapon types [grenades, guns] are clientside.

[White_Roy]

Originally Posted by KuJi

osht.. you didn't? Sorry ;(

Better be.

Anyways I think the reason why the economy is so messed up is because people that previously owned businesses/gangs get it back absolutely free, making it extremely easy for them to earn money causing the economy to become unbalanced.

There's a lot more ways to distribute businesses/gangs.
1. Obviously there's the Auction House that way the people that worked the hardest will get it.
2. You can publicly vote for it, but with a limited amount of candidates mostly previous owners/co-owners. Select who you think is best for the job. For example, for Black Holst you can vote between Meph, Gsput, Kae, and ionno Warhead? That way we prevent useless gang leaders and it will keep gangs active.
3. You can let staff decide and let them pick what they think is best.

I favor the 1st choice for businesses. If you're going to work hard why can't you be the one that becomes the richest?

The 2nd choice for gangs. If you're a gang leader atm and you're truly a good one then people will vote for you, if you don't like this idea there's obviously a reason why.

I think we should bring back the taxing system. That way even though the business sells something that costs a huge amount of money like colts (4300) there's still a way to stop them from gaining immense amts of cash.

Also when there's an item that's not stocked the owner of the business loses money over time.

There's the weapons' parts shop which makes the owner of the business use around 1000g to make the gun, but obviously it's not enough. Same for gangs and their gang weapons.

Also to prevent someone from selling gang guns and earning 500k (Maverick) I also think we should consider tag locking gang guns. That way people won't want them as much, and it will keep the gun a "gang gun." Also it will make people stay in gangs keeping gangs as active as possible.

[lancelot9]

Ok. So now i cant even post my arguments and ideas without getting them deleted.
Just goes to prove my point.

Mod: they're being deleted because they're not needed in this thread! x-x

[KuJi]

I don't feel like using quotes but:

The tax system applies to Ammo Mart at the moment.. instead of getting free bats.. i pay 4$? lol

Also.. if we taglock the guns.. you will never be able to use it for longer then a month, every other month ( as in you switch gangs too much :O)

And a simple thing to fix that is: Don't put people in charge who would do something like that.

Mod: Wasn't needed, if what you say is true that Atrius > Era, go play it than.

[k0rupt_ed]

Are you people out of your mind? Starting from scratch is retarded, the server just has to be reset and things need to be straightened out in order to get the economy on the right track.

Use your brains people. Totaly redoing a server would either take realy long, or never get finished.

[KuJi]

Originally Posted by k0rupt_ed

Are you people out of your mind? Starting from scratch is retarded, the server just has to be reset and things need to be straightened out in order to get the economy on the right track.

Use your brains people. Totaly redoing a server would either take realy long, or never get finished.

Or:
- Be better off.. this world isnt like 2k1's world which I'd miss if it was completely redone... I'd probally say YAY if this world was scrapped.. as long as they brought the driving school back .
- Era's economy has been messed up so for so long... if you think the amount of items and money are a lot... I used to walk around with about 10 mill.. everyone did. And if you died and lost 1 mill you wouldn't care (besides the fact that everyone had every gun and 99999 ammo) cuz.. money was nothing

Good times.. running around with around 1 billion $'s

[KuJi]

Yeah.. I double posted osht.

Anyway: As much as I want a reset.. I find this vote VERY unfair.

Normally with resets comes loss of players which usually find there way to a different server. Now knowing this... other players from other servers that NEVER even played era are coming here and voting yes which basically steals players.. blah blah.. Also the fact that people who paid for 40 accounts are voting (ex: Cubes.. meph etc..)

Also... I'd like to add that there should be a requirement of 100 hours to vote and then a recount .

[Vulcan]

I find it funny that this thread has more than double the ammount of views than the forum rules...

[KuJi]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I find it funny that this thread has more than double the ammount of views than the forum rules...

Haha.. redirect the thread to the forum rules then

[Celarion]

Originally Posted by lancelot9

Ok.

You are trying to tell me that you dont get rid of defects by rescripting?
Thats total BS, how old are those scripts.. honestly.

And also, yeah, starting from scratch will take time.. you need patients for a good server to be developed... something alotta era staff dont have, thats why there are so many flaws in the firstplace. I mean, honeslty, your only thinkin about yourself when you post stuff like that.. you just wanna play your favorite server, if it sucks or not, you dont want the wait.

got an idea, go get some sun...

s/patients/patience/d

A piece of code defines a logical sequence of actions. Current computer architecture is based upon the idea of Turing decidability, and implemented through the combination of electronic boolean logic elements. Boolean logic is a form of mathematics.
Mathematical concepts do not get worse with age. They are tried and tested and refined, eventually forming the foundations on which more ideas can be built.

When you start coding something new, you always inject defects. If you recode what has already been developed, you will inject defects. This will happen, no matter how hard you might try to prevent it.

The next time you want to correct me on my concepts of software development, get some formal training, then come back and find a more feasible subject with which to cast doubt upon my credibility.

If you want a server that is "starting from scratch", please, feel free to join and play on one of the aformentioned undeveloped servers. Our community would be far richer for you doing so.

Insofar as the accusation that I selfishly do not wish for the aspects of the game which are totally unrelated to this so-called "economic instability" to be stripped from us, I irrevocably concede.
I also counter-retort that you yourself have been too slothly to put in the effort to make your character as good as those of myself and the couple of hundred others that voted against a reset. With that in mind I propose that your attitude is opportunistic, and I can only assume that you have taken your stance on the basis that a server reset will take away our edge over you in PVP.

You are right. But we earned it. Through our own time and effort.

So I ask you, who is the selfish one?

[KuJi]

Originally Posted by Celarion

Big long msg

Eh.. lance doesn't script.. he gfx's

[sam_is_me]

Consider something Soooo Crazy. Arm yourself. Be prepared for what Im about to say. Woah. Crazy. So crazy it might just take a step to old Era.
Look at what BlueSamurai said. 4gangs.4guns.SmallerGmap. SIMPLE! Easy, simple, more fun than this complex ****, and it could bring us back guys! Think about it!!! People, you have to master a gun, not just have one that does crazy damage to be l33t. You actually have to be good. Plus, Soooo much fun, my god, I still remember old Era. Wow. Just think about it. Maybe not so much 4 guns, or 4 gangs, but not so much all this complex small biz crap/ reset me i worked hard dont do it cry cry cry bs... Just simple, extra fun, Era.

[Bl0nkt]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

I find it funny that this thread has more than double the ammount of views than the forum rules...

Because no one gives a **** about the forum rules.