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View Poll Results: What do you think, in general, about the PWA?
Great 5 7.46%
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Old 02-19-2006, 05:27 PM
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Well, I personally lost my super motivation when I hit the ceiling. When your superiors don't care as much as you do it's a big let down and really kills all your initiative. Btw, in the absence of an acting PWA chief, Stefan is PWA chief.
well from what i hear.. you have a problem with someone being PW Admin besides you. throwing a fit when stefan wanted to hire someone else, no?

maybe if you let him hire who he wanted regardless of how long you have been PWA we would have an admin.

it seems to me that all you PWA can talk about is PW Admin.. is that all you all are thinking about.. being the administrator?

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Old 02-19-2006, 05:59 PM
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shows a lack of professionalism
Didn't you have your RC removed on Era or something for abusing your powers?
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Old 02-19-2006, 08:20 PM
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When your superiors don't care as much as you do it's a big let down and really kills all your initiative.
That was what I hated, too. Trying to get simple things done was like pulling teeth, only the teeth were held in place by cement, because nothing ever happened.
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Old 02-19-2006, 08:50 PM
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Well, I voted O.K. for the PWA. In my experiences, they aren't exactly terrible. But then again, their response time to most Hosted inspections (In my experience) has been slow.
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Old 02-19-2006, 08:54 PM
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Didn't you have your RC removed on Era or something for abusing your powers?
No... That was Malinko that abused rights. Malinko was told by Stefan to never log on RC there unless it's absolutely needed. Houdini can log on anytime he wants to.

but we don't want him to D:
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Old 02-19-2006, 08:58 PM
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Is it fair to point out certain people's good and bad points?
It's basically 'bashing' the members of the pwa. If you didn't have an opinion on the PWA and answered the question, I wouldn't mind.
Boohoo. I think they can handle a few bad things said about them.

Don't tell on us though, please?
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Old 02-20-2006, 02:21 AM
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well from what i hear.. you have a problem with someone being PW Admin besides you. throwing a fit when stefan wanted to hire someone else, no?

maybe if you let him hire who he wanted regardless of how long you have been PWA we would have an admin.

it seems to me that all you PWA can talk about is PW Admin.. is that all you all are thinking about.. being the administrator?
Where did you get this idea?... Given the situation though, I don't think anybody else has the experience with Graal, or more importantly, people.

However, I don't think that a PWA Admin will help anything outside the team, and inside, only the team's organization. Unixmad won't give out any more high level RCs after Nemesis, and I doubt the PWA Admin's opinion alone could have somebody that Stefan appointed to PWA fired. So it's not exactly a huge deal to be PWA admin if you're a PWA already.
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Old 02-20-2006, 03:41 AM
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Well, I voted O.K. for the PWA. In my experiences, they aren't exactly terrible. But then again, their response time to most Hosted inspections (In my experience) has been slow.
Mine as well, but they do have quite a few servers to inspect, and each one takes time. I will note however, that quite a few were glad to take a look at my server, and inspected it quickly. It takes time though, oh well. They do have a lot to look at, but I also think that some of the requirements for hosted tab are a bit high, it would take less time if they had less to look for.
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Old 02-20-2006, 03:43 AM
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Unixmad won't give out any more high level RCs after Nemesis,
Maybe its time to start acting like a buisness then for a change, dont run scared to the dark when something happens, but find a way to go on, not everyone is like Nemesis. I would go as far as to say only the people who see what he did as "A good way to go out" would be like him.

I would suggest some kind of more indepth legal contract with global members, they are "STAFF" on this game, and this game is owned by a company, am i right so far? When you apply for a job anywhere else, you agree to some terms, sure when we all register an account we agree to the "Terms of Service" but Globals should have yet another set they agree too, that are not only game rules, but more like legal rules.

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and I doubt the PWA Admin's opinion alone could have somebody that Stefan appointed to PWA fired.
I can guarantee that your opinion is correct, as one of the top two people on the game, his opinion is more or less absolute, no matter who likes it and why.
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Old 02-20-2006, 04:15 AM
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Maybe its time to start acting like a buisness then for a change, dont run scared to the dark when something happens, but find a way to go on, not everyone is like Nemesis. I would go as far as to say only the people who see what he did as "A good way to go out" would be like him.

I would suggest some kind of more indepth legal contract with global members, they are "STAFF" on this game, and this game is owned by a company, am i right so far? When you apply for a job anywhere else, you agree to some terms, sure when we all register an account we agree to the "Terms of Service" but Globals should have yet another set they agree too, that are not only game rules, but more like legal rules.
That would be great because it would require legal accountability, and would also probably bump up the age of global staff to over 18. Either that, or at least very mature children who's parents agree to vouch for their behavior.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:50 AM
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at least very mature children who's parents agree to vouch for their behavior.
Big fat no.
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Old 02-20-2006, 05:15 PM
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Big fat no.
*Shrug* I'm just allowing for flukes.
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Old 02-20-2006, 05:57 PM
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That would be great because it would require legal accountability, and would also probably bump up the age of global staff to over 18. Either that, or at least very mature children who's parents agree to vouch for their behavior.
You would need to get rid of the immature ones first. Starting with a certain PWA member that wouldn't admit his past transgressions when faced with hard proof... But wait, nobody cares anymore.
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Old 02-20-2006, 08:33 PM
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You would need to get rid of the immature ones first. Starting with a certain PWA member that wouldn't admit his past transgressions when faced with hard proof... But wait, nobody cares anymore.
Thatd be one of the major problems, in order for this to work the people issuing the contracts would need to care what is happening in the game with the globals. The players made the game (not the client, most of the content) yet, the players have no real say.

Its nearly too fargone to change now, the same mistakes have been made over and over for years, and some of the mistakes have never been fixed, when allowed to continue for years.

Thats why the playerbase of graal went from nearly 3 or 4000 (I remember 3 as being a more prominate number). To hardly 1000+ At the absolute best.

Ive heard people say graal is "growing" but it isnt even anywhere near where it used to be, so it cant be considered growing until everything is fixed.
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Old 02-20-2006, 09:48 PM
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I don't even want to comment, because I have absolutely nothing nice to say about how Graal is currently run or the current situation on the PWA, specifically the one concerning Malinko.

And my parents always said "If you don' got nuttin good to say, dun say it at all, y'all know? Now shuddup be'for I smack ya one on yer ass.".

That and the fact supermom will delete my post if I say anything down to earth off from my heart, because it'd be seen as "against the rules" and I'd be told to make a support ticket.

So honestly, it's pointless to try to be radical here, transmit some rage, and prove a point if it just gets deleted. This might be one of the biggest problems, a lack of verbal freedom. Hint hint.

Or maybe I'm just calming down and becoming a solemn young man.
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