Bravo: Ages of Ignis [Offical Thread]

[Kronan]

Hello, as said in the other thread, we are creating a new bravo. It's going to be a mix of Andor, Bravo, and a server I was creating in the past. But the big idea of the server will be based on Bravo. On the overworld, there will be a island that's going to contain a few old-bravo towns. ie. Coast, and Centracity, and maybe another one. I can tell you all that we are almost done, I hope to have this released maybe by the middle of January or maybe sooner.

A lot of old bravo inside levels will be reused and refurbished to fit with todays style. The theme of Bravo will remain a classic server and will not change to anything else like it has in the past. Bravo started as a classic server, and i'm going to make sure it remains a classic server.

As of right now, I have released the old bravo levels. If you log on "Bravo: Ages of Ignis" You will start in coast town. If you log on and you are in a different location, type "/reset" to reset your account. I'm going to promise you all now, that this will NOT be a failed attempt. This time we have the staff and resources to get things completed.

Right now I am not hiring anything but Development-staff. If you're interested log on, and if you'd like to see our current overworld, someone on the staff will warp you to show you a brief preview. I'm actually about to run to work, so i'll post a screenshot later tonight for those of you who are feeling lazy and don't want to type in Bravo's huge name.

I would also appreciate if a mod can close that other thread, considering it's old and now its pointless.

-Kronan

[Brandon]

It is worth noting that the server name has officially been changed, you may now login to the server by typing Bravo into the UC-playerworld field and pressing enter.

[Eagle]

We are working rather hard on this project, so you should check us out.

[Corp1]

Put Raven_X's house up!

[Kronan]

Originally Posted by Corp1

Put Raven_X's house up!

I'll look for it.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Kronan

Hello, as said in the other thread, we are creating a new bravo. It's going to be a mix of Andor, Bravo, and a server I was creating in the past. But the big idea of the server will be based on Bravo. On the overworld, there will be a island that's going to contain a few old-bravo towns. ie. Coast, and Centracity, and maybe another one. I can tell you all that we are almost done, I hope to have this released maybe by the middle of January or maybe sooner.

A lot of old bravo inside levels will be reused and refurbished to fit with todays style. The theme of Bravo will remain a classic server and will not change to anything else like it has in the past. Bravo started as a classic server, and i'm going to make sure it remains a classic server.

As of right now, I have released the old bravo levels. If you log on "Bravo: Ages of Ignis" You will start in coast town. If you log on and you are in a different location, type "/reset" to reset your account. I'm going to promise you all now, that this will NOT be a failed attempt. This time we have the staff and resources to get things completed.

Right now I am not hiring anything but Development-staff. If you're interested log on, and if you'd like to see our current overworld, someone on the staff will warp you to show you a brief preview. I'm actually about to run to work, so i'll post a screenshot later tonight for those of you who are feeling lazy and don't want to type in Bravo's huge name.

I would also appreciate if a mod can close that other thread, considering it's old and now its pointless.

-Kronan

Good luck.

[Kronan]

Just a update, to log on Bravo, you must type the whole name in now "Bravo: Ages of Ignis" If you just type Bravo it will redirect you to our other Bravo server.

[HarDKoRe1234]

Unfortunately, it really can't be the "Old Bravo" without the players that were there though.

[Eagle]

So true. How about a newer old bravo?

[Thrashsoul3]

Originally Posted by Eagle

So true. How about a newer old bravo?

That's a contradicting statement.

[Kronan]

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Update 12/9/05
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Okay, this time I have some screenshots.
We have added into Centracity today and its in the process of being refurbished.
Our levels are around 60% completed as of now. I will be releasing new coast town to the public soon for everyone to come see. We have a island especially dedicated to the old bravo levels. The onlinestartlocal we are going to use is going to be the old bravo one.

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Current Staff
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Management:
Kronan
Brandon
Tweaker
Head Developer:
Eagle
Developer:
OasaTor
Graphics
Firedemon
Levels Admin
Chicken NaNa
LAT
JohnnyChimpo
Jaffer Chill
Music Admin
Lamer

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Needed Staff
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I am mostly in need of NPC scripters.
It gets kinda tough trying to script everything myself.
I need experienced people who can do GS2. Not much GS1 will be used.

I could also use another LAT, but I need extremely good LAT's.

I also need an Events Admin, but the events admin will be making events, not just slacking off on RC the entire time. So if you can do levels, graphics, scripts. This is the job for you to apply for.

I am not hiring any non developmental staff at this time.

[Eagle]

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

That's a contradicting statement.

Not really, it is meant to be old bravo in a newer state.

[Kronan]

I have just released the new coast town, log on to check it out.

[xAndrewx]

Found a tile error. I don't really like 'new' coast. It's somewhat ugly. :*

[Chicken_l33t]

I'm working on the New Coast at the moment. The houses arent that lovely. I fixed up the beach on it and the cliffing all around.

It's not all finished so be patient. and you should see the other tile errors in those trees. They make my eyes go funny. (seriously)

[Eagle]

If your referring to the ugly detail, I am fixing all of that.

[MKxTortoise]

Yakuna and Wilddude should be managers


on a more serious note include Fei's house again I have fond memories of that place!

[Kronan]

Originally Posted by MKxTortoise

Yakuna and Wilddude should be managers


on a more serious note include Fei's house again I have fond memories of that place!

Yakuna is a fool, he gave out the FTP password once back in the day. He offered it to get FTP passwords to other servers. And WildDude is cool, he is just in the navy now.

[NeoJenova]

WildDude is in iraq right now.

E-mails to him are greatly appreciated by him and his sister, RoxyKitten.

Forum PM me for details.

[haunter]

Well... I was skeptical at first, but then I realised that it wouldn't be fair to judge unless I went to look around and see what they've been working on first... So I did. I logged on to look around, and I must say; I'm not skeptical anymore. In fact I'm quite positive, that once again, this is not Bravo Online. What gave it away you ask? Well for one thing, even after 5 or 10 minutes of running around the overworld I still couldn't figure out that I was actually in Bravo! It wasn't until a staff member logged on and told me that I was standing in Coast Town that I realised that I was. I thought that I was in the "Ages of Ignis" part of the overworld (I'll get to that later).

My point here is that Bravo doesn't look much like Bravo. This isn't a good start. From what I've seen of Centra there are some very important elements in place, the entrance looked a bit wonky, but I'd have to see the original to refresh my memory. Chicken did go a bit overboard on the streams around the houses though.

As was previously mentioned, even aside from the fact that the layout looks nothing like the original, Coast Town isn't that pleasing to the eye. A lot of copy->paste detail, and physics defying houses; which is fine on some servers, but that's just not Bravo's way and it's things like this that will make this 'new bravo' have the old Bravo feel.

Right; so back to the 'Ages of Ingis' thing. What does this really mean? Will there be a second part to the playerworld that has the overworld from 'Ages of Ingis'? Or is this just Bravo's Age of Ingis (Which I'm told means fire?) Because that just doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure that there was fire on Bravo Online in the 3rd (which never made it far), 2nd, and probably 1st age. Now honestly this sounds like another one of these:

Player 1: I want to start my playerworld up again, but I need hosting.
Player 2: You can host on my server space. But you have to merge the name with mine so that I can call it my own too. Oh, and make me manager.
Player 1: k.

One more thing. You guys are rushing into things again. You got the idea to try and revive Bravo again, what... Two, Two and a half weeks ago? And you're already posting threads boasting about this new revival, and how it's actually going to work this time... and how levels are sixty percent done?! No, no they're not. There are tonnes of towns on Bravo, in fact so many that I can't remeber them all: Coast, Centra, Scrawby, Bethla, Bou... I know I'm forgetting atleast two or three. Maybe you should take your time instead of trying to rush to get it out there. I'd much rather wait a year for a good Bravo remake, than have this one shutdown three days from now.

Now there was another problem that I had with the new Bravo when I checked it out the other day, but I believe that was just a misunderstanding and is fixed now. I won't go into details anyway.

That's all i have to say for now. Sorry, I wish I could give all praise, but that's what I honestly think.

[Eagle]

Originally Posted by haunter

Well... I was skeptical at first, but then I realised that it wouldn't be fair to judge unless I went to look around and see what they've been working on first... So I did. I logged on to look around, and I must say; I'm not skeptical anymore. In fact I'm quite positive, that once again, this is not Bravo Online. What gave it away you ask? Well for one thing, even after 5 or 10 minutes of running around the overworld I still couldn't figure out that I was actually in Bravo! It wasn't until a staff member logged on and told me that I was standing in Coast Town that I realised that I was. I thought that I was in the "Ages of Ignis" part of the overworld (I'll get to that later).

I will take fault for naming it 'New Coast Town'. We have added a rather big island on the overworld and trying to remake more of old Bravo there. We had different names for the towns on that part of the overworld, and I didn't think that the new names fit Bravo very well, so I susgested the name change, and Kronan agreed.

Originally Posted by haunter

My point here is that Bravo doesn't look much like Bravo. This isn't a good start. From what I've seen of Centra there are some very important elements in place, the entrance looked a bit wonky, but I'd have to see the original to refresh my memory. Chicken did go a bit overboard on the streams around the houses though.

What do you exactly mean by elements? I copied and pasted the levels on the gmap exactly how they were for Chicken to fix them up.

Originally Posted by haunter

As was previously mentioned, even aside from the fact that the layout looks nothing like the original, Coast Town isn't that pleasing to the eye. A lot of copy->paste detail, and physics defying houses; which is fine on some servers, but that's just not Bravo's way and it's things like this that will make this 'new bravo' have the old Bravo feel.

I cannot speak for Kronan, as he made the houses in that town, but I can answer for some of the detailing. I did not do all the detailing in that town, but for the detail I did do, I can assure you that I didn't copy and paste it.

Originally Posted by haunter

Player 1: I want to start my playerworld up again, but I need hosting.
Player 2: You can host on my server space. But you have to merge the name with mine so that I can call it my own too. Oh, and make me manager.
Player 1: k.

So Brandon is Player 1, and Kronan is player 2? I wasn't involved in the merge process, but i'm sure that wasn't how it happened.

Originally Posted by haunted

One more thing. You guys are rushing into things again. You got the idea to try and revive Bravo again, what... Two, Two and a half weeks ago? And you're already posting threads boasting about this new revival, and how it's actually going to work this time... and how levels are sixty percent done?! No, no they're not. There are tonnes of towns on Bravo, in fact so many that I can't remeber them all: Coast, Centra, Scrawby, Bethla, Bou... I know I'm forgetting atleast two or three. Maybe you should take your time instead of trying to rush to get it out there. I'd much rather wait a year for a good Bravo remake, than have this one shutdown three days from now.

About the 60 percent, Kronan told that before we added on the large island to the overworld. That island as I mentioned, will store more Bravo Towns. Who says we are rushing? Ever think the post could be so people are aware that Bravo is attempting a revision again?

Originally Posted by haunter

That's all i have to say for now. Sorry, I wish I could give all praise, but that's what I honestly think.

I respect your opinion. Maybe I cleared up something?

[Kronan]

Before this project had begun, Brandon was working for me on my server "Ignis Divine." First we talked about this first. We have planned out the entire theme for the Ignis part, it's mainly going to be the theme of the new weapons used on the server. As for the way the houses look, most of them that are in "New Coast" were from Ignis Divine. New Coast actually wasn't made for bravo at first, it was completed prior to the merging of our project. Shadowless, I appreciate your opinions on the entire issue, it will help to make our project better.

We are not rushing in to things. Only reason why this section has been released so quickly is because of like I said, the town was made for Ignis and it was done prior to the merging with Bravo.

[Thrashsoul3]

Any plans for anything to do in "Bravo Ages of Ignis" or is it just an art gallery?

[Kronan]

Originally Posted by Thrashsoul3

Any plans for anything to do in "Bravo Ages of Ignis" or is it just an art gallery?

I'll be releasing that information shortly.

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by haunter

Well... I was skeptical at first, but then I realised that it wouldn't be fair to judge unless I went to look around and see what they've been working on first... So I did. I logged on to look around, and I must say; I'm not skeptical anymore. In fact I'm quite positive, that once again, this is not Bravo Online. What gave it away you ask? Well for one thing, even after 5 or 10 minutes of running around the overworld I still couldn't figure out that I was actually in Bravo! It wasn't until a staff member logged on and told me that I was standing in Coast Town that I realised that I was. I thought that I was in the "Ages of Ignis" part of the overworld (I'll get to that later).

My point here is that Bravo doesn't look much like Bravo. This isn't a good start. From what I've seen of Centra there are some very important elements in place, the entrance looked a bit wonky, but I'd have to see the original to refresh my memory. Chicken did go a bit overboard on the streams around the houses though.

As was previously mentioned, even aside from the fact that the layout looks nothing like the original, Coast Town isn't that pleasing to the eye. A lot of copy->paste detail, and physics defying houses; which is fine on some servers, but that's just not Bravo's way and it's things like this that will make this 'new bravo' have the old Bravo feel.

Right; so back to the 'Ages of Ingis' thing. What does this really mean? Will there be a second part to the playerworld that has the overworld from 'Ages of Ingis'? Or is this just Bravo's Age of Ingis (Which I'm told means fire?) Because that just doesn't make sense. I'm pretty sure that there was fire on Bravo Online in the 3rd (which never made it far), 2nd, and probably 1st age. Now honestly this sounds like another one of these:

Player 1: I want to start my playerworld up again, but I need hosting.
Player 2: You can host on my server space. But you have to merge the name with mine so that I can call it my own too. Oh, and make me manager.
Player 1: k.

One more thing. You guys are rushing into things again. You got the idea to try and revive Bravo again, what... Two, Two and a half weeks ago? And you're already posting threads boasting about this new revival, and how it's actually going to work this time... and how levels are sixty percent done?! No, no they're not. There are tonnes of towns on Bravo, in fact so many that I can't remeber them all: Coast, Centra, Scrawby, Bethla, Bou... I know I'm forgetting atleast two or three. Maybe you should take your time instead of trying to rush to get it out there. I'd much rather wait a year for a good Bravo remake, than have this one shutdown three days from now.

Now there was another problem that I had with the new Bravo when I checked it out the other day, but I believe that was just a misunderstanding and is fixed now. I won't go into details anyway.

That's all i have to say for now. Sorry, I wish I could give all praise, but that's what I honestly think.

You're being overly critical of something that isn't even close to completion, here. You're basically setting us up to fail before we've even had a chance.
As far as your notion that this was a "player 1 wants to restart his project and asks player 2 for hosting", it is actually quite the opposite. I was getting ready to purchase hosting myself when Kronan proposed to me that we do what we did. The "Age of Ignis" part of it will work itself in quite nicely when we're finished. Obviously, the Bravo "island" is not going to be a carbon copy of what it used to be, because we're years and "graal-advances" ahead of what was available when Bravo was originally created. Give it some time, and please don't shoot us down when we're in the early stages of production.

EDIT: Whomever said that the levels are 60% complete was not correct, and I apologize for that.

EDIT #2: The towns I remember are: Coast, Centra, Scrawby, Bethla, Bou, Andray City, Wateria, <fire town I don't remember the name of>, and another town that was far to the right of coast. If I'm missing something, someone please let me know.

[thrashsoul]

Why are you using a four year old tileset then?

[WanDaMan]

Originally Posted by thrashsoul

Why are you using a four year old tileset then?

[Chicken_l33t]

Wan, I think he's talking about Scrawby.

[haunter]

Originally Posted by Chicken_l33t

Wan, I think he's talking about Scrawby.

The new Scrawby and tiles are only like 3 to 3.5 years old though...

[WanDaMan]

I don't think he's talking about Scrawby. I thought he was talking about the old pics1.png.

[Kronan]

He is talking about pics1. He has already complained about this to me before.

[Corp1]

This is Bravo, revamped it looks great while keeping ALL of the old elements of Bravo intact...you know all the "streams" in Centra City and the overall map.

Just want a request to have Raven_X's house in the same place and stay as it was.

[Kronan]

Originally Posted by Corp1

This is Bravo, revamped it looks great while keeping ALL of the old elements of Bravo intact...you know all the "streams" in Centra City and the overall map.

Just want a request to have Raven_X's house in the same place and stay as it was.

Dew, if you have that house you can send it to me at

kronan AT gmail.com

I've looked through all the classic levels, and I couldn't find it

[DarkHero]

wasnt raven x the same guy who made xjuice... or what ever... it basicalyl made u go around in circled.. good way to keep from idling yourself off.

[Kronan]

Here's a few updates:

Our overworld is almost completed, all that's left for us to do will be finish quests, events, npcs, and inside levels. Bravo is really coming along, so far it's farther than any other revival project I have seen, here are a few screenshots.

1st Screenie: Desert Town (No name yet, suggestions welcome)
2nd Screenie: Centra City
3rd Screenie: New town (No name yet, suggestions welcome)
4th Screenie: New town (No name yet, suggestions welcome)
5th Screenie: New town (No name yet, suggestions welcome)

[Mykel]

But yeah, the levels look nice, but what will there be to do? What will make it different from any other classic server?

[Mykel]

What the hell? Why was my post that asked what it had to offer different from other servers deleted?

[Eagle]

I think every post below yours was suppose to be deleted. Mistake, I believe.

[Spark910]

Originally Posted by Eagle

I think every post below yours was suppose to be deleted. Mistake, I believe.

Yup, a mistake (not mine before someone shouts at me ).
Post restored!

[Mykel]

Thanks. =)