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Old 02-05-2005, 07:42 AM
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What of all the scripts Stefan has posted to help people become more advanced with newer gscript additions? Should Stefan also Adhire to the rules of not posting full scripts, and leave his documents and script to himself?
You should actually read the rule you're criticizing. It says not to post full scripts to solve people's problems. Posting a full script you designed and want to show off or want to release to the public certainly does not fit the rule's description.
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Old 02-06-2005, 01:40 AM
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You should actually read the rule you're criticizing. It says not to post full scripts to solve people's problems.
So some problems some people were having getting adjusted to the new gscript engine, was not solved by Stefan creating example code?

Say i was eager to use the RC Item he posted, had he not posted, would many people have had a way to do it alone?

I am just saying, Stefan has helped solve a lot of problems by posting his code, I am not criticizing the rule, but bringing it into a diffrent perspective.
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Old 02-06-2005, 01:45 AM
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So some problems some people were having getting adjusted to the new gscript engine, was not solved by Stefan creating example code?

Say i was eager to use the RC Item he posted, had he not posted, would many people have had a way to do it alone?
The RC Item he posted was not example code. It was a tool that people can use on their server because it is not installed by default.


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I am just saying, Stefan has helped solve a lot of problems by posting his code, I am not criticizing the rule, but bringing it into a diffrent perspective.
Stefan has never posted code that was demanded from someone who did not attempt to script something theirselves. Like Lance said, read the rule before you so blatantly post about it being broken.
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Old 02-06-2005, 11:59 PM
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The RC Item he posted was not example code.
So your saying this weaponRC which he posted, contains no example of how to use gscript2 in an item, and by looking at it, it might not give you any hint as to how to do something you want.

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Stefan has never posted code that was demanded from someone who did not attempt to script something theirselves.
How many times have you tried scripting the new RC?
On the other side of that coin, how many times have people asked "When will the scripted RC be done?"

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Like Lance said, read the rule before you so blatantly post about it being broken.
You must be slightly thick, I posted about no rule being broken, I simply asked a rhetorical question, which just so happened to concern said rule.

Hey if you cant point out to me where I said "Stefan breaks the NPC forum rules" then I will be glad to apologize, but the problem is, you wont find where I said that, because I didnt.
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Old 02-07-2005, 12:57 AM
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Hey if you cant point out to me where I said "Stefan breaks the NPC forum rules" then I will be glad to apologize, but the problem is, you wont find where I said that, because I didnt.
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Should Stefan also Adhire to the rules of not posting full scripts, and leave his documents and script to himself?
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Old 02-07-2005, 10:32 PM
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So your saying this weaponRC which he posted, contains no example of how to use gscript2 in an item, and by looking at it, it might not give you any hint as to how to do something you want.
That was not it's original intention, I'm sure. Perhaps some people utilized it in that way, but the main intention of posting it was so people wouldn't have to script their own.


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How many times have you tried scripting the new RC?
On the other side of that coin, how many times have people asked "When will the scripted RC be done?"
Actually, the RC code is quite simple. I had a basic-functionality one scripted before Stefan posted this one. Next time you try to say it is impossible, perhaps you should look at the code first.


[EDIT] Didn't read the rest of the posts before I posted this, Evil_Trunks seems to have replied to the quote about Stefan breaking the rules already.[/EDIT]
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Old 02-07-2005, 11:47 PM
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That was not it's original intention, I'm sure. Perhaps some people utilized it in that way, but the main intention of posting it was so people wouldn't have to script their own.
So your saying he posted a full code, not to be a learning experince to people, but just so they would "copy+paste" the code onto their server, and forget about it? Hmm.

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Actually, the RC code is quite simple. I had a basic-functionality one scripted before Stefan posted this one.
There is a diffrence between basic-functionality and ready for use.

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Next time you try to say it is impossible, perhaps you should look at the code first.
I am almost convinced people like to make things up in order to continue an arugument longer then it should go, where did I say it was impossible to code that? I simply asked how many times you tried coding the whole thing.

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[EDIT] Didn't read the rest of the posts before I posted this, Evil_Trunks seems to have replied to the quote about Stefan breaking the rules already.[/EDIT]
Which brings me to the conclusion neither of you have any idea what a rhetorical question is, the issue didnt start as anything about stefan breaking forum rules or anything like that, but for some reason, a statement that was read much too deeply into, was pulled out.

I would like to sum it up diffrently incase you still do not get it, I was simply asking a question which didnt require any real kind of answer. The kid who started this thread needed some help, I gave him his help.

Mabye not many people start threads asking "Stefan help me plz!", but he still gives help, lets say this help were no longer given, people would be putting more effort into figuring something out that Stefan could have assisted them with. I was simply pointing out a diffrent way of looking at the situation, since in both instances, help is given via a code, be this code "Made to show off" or "Made to help" either offers assistance, and either can be copy+pasted just as quickly as the other.

I dont think copy+paste really cares about catagory.
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Old 02-08-2005, 02:58 AM
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So your saying he posted a full code, not to be a learning experince to people, but just so they would "copy+paste" the code onto their server, and forget about it? Hmm.
It is a required tool. Not everyone is expected to script one, and having one that Stefan scripted would prevent harmful bugs from coming alive.

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There is a diffrence between basic-functionality and ready for use.
Not really. Something can be a basic version, and you can still use it. When I said basic version, I meant it didn't have some of the fancy features Stefan's had, like the icons for the filebrowser, etc. I still had basic features that would allow me to use the RC efficiently (NPC Editor/FileBrowser/RC Chat)


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I am almost convinced people like to make things up in order to continue an arugument longer then it should go, where did I say it was impossible to code that? I simply asked how many times you tried coding the whole thing.
And by that, it is safe to assume that you meant that I could not do it. Therefor rendering it impossible to me.


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Which brings me to the conclusion neither of you have any idea what a rhetorical question is, the issue didnt start as anything about stefan breaking forum rules or anything like that, but for some reason, a statement that was read much too deeply into, was pulled out.
So, you can reply to one post seriously, then when you realise you are contradicting yourself with your own words, you can call it a rhetorical question?

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I am just saying, Stefan has helped solve a lot of problems by posting his code, I am not criticizing the rule, but bringing it into a diffrent perspective.
I think by that phrase, you deminished any rehetoric that that question you posed had.
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