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[freddyfox]

Originally posted by Kaimetsu


We have effects on things but here's the distinction: Those effects cannot be defined as intrinsically good or bad. They're only good if we think they're good - indeed, the only place anything in the universe has worth is inside the mish-mash we call our minds. A flower isn't beautiful by nature, it's only given that attribute when a person decides that he likes it. And even then, the beauty is completely contained inside the person's head. The flower is just a bunch of atoms and suchlike - it may have significance to us but from an objective standpoint it's just a hunk of matter.

You are correct on these points.

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

What I'm saying is this: The universe doesn't care what we do. To it, we're just more clumps of matter. We're not good clumps, we're not bad clumps, because nowhere does there exist a definitive omnidimensional book on the subject of what is good and what is bad. We have no worth except to ourselves, and our opinions of ourselves have no worth except to ourselves, and our opinions of our opinions of... You get the idea. The only place human beings have any worth is in the place within their heads, and that doesn't even exist.

Of course. No one could care less what I do or what Bob does or what Msdflkjil the alien does. Only the people on this planet care about what I do. Is there anything wrong with humans accomplishing small steps on their own world and feeling proud of it?