This is outragius!

Androk · #1 08-02-2003, 01:00 AM

This is outragius! These crappy servers are stealing GFX and whant not, and I am sure there is more stealing to come! I truly think that the whole PW Renting idea might have no been so good! I mean with 100$ backing up a PW, ADMINISTRATION (AKA Stefan and Unixmad) don't do anything to stop the people from stealing, but even incourage it! Look at some semi-old threads.

Don't get me wrong, PW renting is a great concept, and should be left, but RULES need to be inforced much more. Maybe PWA can create some kind of point system or something, where all Points are reset on Christmas and if PW is over 50 points it gets shut down without refund. And points are awarded for stealing of content from other servers, for uploading illigal content and whatevber other mistakes PWA considers to be bad enough to earn points.

I mean this is rediucuilus! Graal is basically selling it's soul for 100$ per year! That's just not right!

Amagius · #2 08-02-2003, 01:38 AM

I know. It's rediculous how many servers are taking other's work. Elect me for PWA and I'll destroy every server. Ummm- stealing server?

W4nk5t4 · #3 08-02-2003, 01:39 AM

This is my philosophy:

You pay the $100, get a server, do whatever you want with it. The servers that succeed their purpose depends on presentation.

davidpsy · #4 08-02-2003, 01:58 AM

I dont know what Ill do if a server steals my tileset... But you can trust me it wont be pretty

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Androk · #5 08-02-2003, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by W4nk5t4
This is my philosophy:

You pay the $100, get a server, do whatever you want with it. The servers that succeed their purpose depends on presentation.

Let's put it this way:

I slave away working on dog sprites for, well 5 hours.Then I make all teh necasery ganis for 2 hours. I work through the night. Then the dog is scripted and is put online. Some guy comes on and says: WOW cool dog! He takes the dog and all the ganis and all teh sounds. Then he poorly scripts it to just walk and bark. So basically he has his own dog within an hour. But did he work on it for 7 frigging hours? No I don't think he did. So does he deserve to have thsoe GFX? HELL NO!

Lyndzey · #6 08-02-2003, 02:05 AM

I have said this in many complaint threads before.

Unixmad is getting back from vacation in a couple of days. I hope he and some of the PWA can sort out this mess. The PWA doesn't have the power to just hand out rules. I know the rules have alraedy been created (or are in the process of being created) but they need to be checked by unixmad first.

Androk · #7 08-02-2003, 02:05 AM

Neh, I know what I'll do. I'll simply ban any Staff Accounts and any Affliated account of people from stealing servers, in case any of the content that was amde by my hands gets up oin any otehr PW but Hartland.

I'll also come to their houses and poke their eyes out.

Snakeandy7 · #8 08-02-2003, 02:06 AM

What can you do, they will say they had it first or that you stole it, happens to me all the time (with levels)

Androk · #9 08-02-2003, 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by Snakeandy7
What can you do, they will say they had it first or that you stole it, happens to me all the time (with levels)

I possess a certain style that nobody else has, so it won't be hard to find my gfx from others

davidpsy · #10 08-02-2003, 02:07 AM

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Originally posted by Androk
Neh, I know what I'll do. I'll simply ban any Staff Accounts and any Affliated account of people from stealing servers, in case any of the content that was amde by my hands gets up oin any otehr PW but Hartland.

I'll also come to their houses and poke their eyes out.

As shal I. Gfx and level/npc stealers are not welcome on Sanstrata I dont care if the npc server says Welcome to you, you are not welcome if you steal gfx period!!

davidpsy · #11 08-02-2003, 02:14 AM

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Originally posted by Androk

I possess a certain style that nobody else has, so it won't be hard to find my gfx from others

Yeah and besides I show all my gfx to my friends they could testify that I made a certain gfx before a certain date. Besides that I make pretty much all my gfx in ms paint and I save things and copys step by step on how I made it so that in it self is enough proof.

Thallen · #12 08-02-2003, 02:41 AM

Faldur and Archaic are probably the 2 lead rented playerworlds in the graphics area, and I have seen so many places stealing their work.

davidpsy · #13 08-02-2003, 03:10 AM

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Originally posted by Thallen
Faldur and Archaic are probably the 2 lead rented playerworlds in the graphics area, and I have seen so many places stealing their work.

Sanstrata will be up there soon thats what worrys me just think what would happen if they stoled our bodys

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Snakeandy7 · #14 08-02-2003, 03:38 AM

Faldur roxors your soxor's <3 symbonia, btw a temp overworld is upload on faldur i think, !Wan made it :o

draco5432 · #15 08-02-2003, 05:16 AM

If you see anything that even looks close to stolen on Aura, for god sakes let me know.

thesaiyan · #16 08-02-2003, 05:26 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy
I dont know what Ill do if a server steals my tileset... But you can trust me it wont be pretty .

Major arse kicking?

Golbez · #17 08-02-2003, 08:27 AM

I agree with this idea, it has gone to far. I mean now you can get banned for any reason what so ever and yet globals cant stop it.... Let alone GFXs I mean, what if someone stole Tribs graphics

MaikuMike · #18 08-02-2003, 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by Androk
And points are awarded

That makes it sound like a good thing :P

It should be like a De-merit or something

davidpsy · #19 08-02-2003, 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by thesaiyan

Major arse kicking?

You dont want to know

. Torture...

syltburk · #20 08-02-2003, 11:47 AM

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Originally posted by Androk

Let's put it this way:

I slave away working on dog sprites for, well 5 hours.Then I make all teh necasery ganis for 2 hours. I work through the night. Then the dog is scripted and is put online. Some guy comes on and says: WOW cool dog! He takes the dog and all the ganis and all teh sounds. Then he poorly scripts it to just walk and bark. So basically he has his own dog within an hour. But did he work on it for 7 frigging hours? No I don't think he did. So does he deserve to have thsoe GFX? HELL NO!

Dont now, but is it possible to steal ganis without being staff or is it just scripts?

Spark910 · #21 08-02-2003, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Androk
This is outragius! These crappy servers are stealing GFX and whant not, and I am sure there is more stealing to come! I truly think that the whole PW Renting idea might have no been so good! I mean with 100$ backing up a PW, ADMINISTRATION (AKA Stefan and Unixmad) don't do anything to stop the people from stealing, but even incourage it! Look at some semi-old threads.

Don't get me wrong, PW renting is a great concept, and should be left, but RULES need to be inforced much more. Maybe PWA can create some kind of point system or something, where all Points are reset on Christmas and if PW is over 50 points it gets shut down without refund. And points are awarded for stealing of content from other servers, for uploading illigal content and whatevber other mistakes PWA considers to be bad enough to earn points.

I mean this is rediucuilus! Graal is basically selling it's soul for 100$ per year! That's just not right!

If we couldnt get a PW shut down for:

Bad Staff
Full on Stealing
Corruption
Abuse
Copyright Stealing

BEFORE Paying, its not happening now. And with Lyndzeys message, I, well WE cant contact Unix who seems to be able to control most things.

Zurkiba · #22 08-02-2003, 03:06 PM

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Originally posted by Snakeandy7
What can you do, they will say they had it first or that you stole it, happens to me all the time (with levels)

Acually Hartland has timestamps and such on their works. So there is proof that they've had it beforehand.

TB3 · #23 08-02-2003, 06:33 PM

I remember when I made a popular skateboard on Fah.... ROFL like so many people took it.... it was actualy funny cause like everyone of them made scripts for it that sucked royaly and then TOT made skate boards too and like 5 servers took their graphix for it and changed the colors and claimed it theirs.

But anyway

I think their should be guidelines for keeping graphix on your server. Such as you shouldnt have anything named with a simple name that you dont want others to use. Such as I might want to use fireorb.gif and lampani.gif and I've used them before I didn't make the graphix but I use them its because they dont have a name on them. If you specificaly dont want people to use your graphix / ganis you should put your server name in front of them like fear_tree.png and sans_body.png. And if it is a graphic that was easy and you dont mind if someone else uses it just name it something like treesection.gif. This sound like a good idea so far? Also if there are disputes on when a graphic was made i think the gserver documents times of uploads and creation on files. I could be wrong though.

DONT NAME YOUR FILES LIKE walk2.gani or prettytree.png name them server_walk2.gani and server_prettytree.png so that people will more understand that these are yours and not use them. THis will also make rules easier to enforce

Spark910 · #24 08-02-2003, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by davidpsy

Sanstrata will be up there soon thats what worrys me just think what would happen if they stoled our bodys .

I swear that is stolen. Im sure its not. It just looks VERY like something I have seen before, some cartoon turned into a game.

konidias · #25 08-02-2003, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by TB3

DONT NAME YOUR FILES LIKE walk2.gani or prettytree.png name them server_walk2.gani and server_prettytree.png so that people will more understand that these are yours and not use them. THis will also make rules easier to enforce

I do this with all the Oasis stuff I make. Not only does it help organize what graphics belong to what server, but it also prevents playerworlds from showing existing files with the same name. (like there is door.png on one server, and a different door.png on another server, it will show the door.png from the other server, instead of the correct one)

So it's good to make sure you name them with your servername in front. If the name is long, just abbreviate it or something. (like valikorlia does with "val")

I also think there should be a rule against having bad addtiledef commands, like where the playerworld tileset def overwrites the default, meaning you go to a server that uses the default tileset, and it shows up as the other playerworld's. :|

Myomoto · #26 08-04-2003, 12:22 AM

THOSE DAMN DOGNAPPERS ANDROK! LETS GO BURN THEIR HOUSES WHEN THE SERVER GETS UP!!!

G_yoshi · #27 08-04-2003, 12:27 AM

I probably don't have anything worth stealing but if I find that someone has stolen my things from me they'll find many sticks with severed heads upon them. This will be the prelude to the inevitable

Valder · #28 08-04-2003, 01:18 AM

Sanstrata is lucky... They have an EXCELLENT gfx person on their team right now....

Neonight · #29 08-04-2003, 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by konidias

I do this with all the Oasis stuff I make. Not only does it help organize what graphics belong to what server, but it also prevents playerworlds from showing existing files with the same name. (like there is door.png on one server, and a different door.png on another server, it will show the door.png from the other server, instead of the correct one)

So it's good to make sure you name them with your servername in front. If the name is long, just abbreviate it or something. (like valikorlia does with "val")

I also think there should be a rule against having bad addtiledef commands, like where the playerworld tileset def overwrites the default, meaning you go to a server that uses the default tileset, and it shows up as the other playerworld's. :|

Yes. Some genius bought a server and decided to rename bigmap.txt and minimap.txt. It took me 15 minutes to get my Classic map working again. -_-;;

G_yoshi · #30 08-04-2003, 04:08 AM

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Originally posted by Valder
Sanstrata is lucky... They have an EXCELLENT gfx person on their team right now....

And who would that be?

Androk · #31 08-04-2003, 05:01 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

And who would that be?

Let's start fingerpointing!

davidpsy · #32 08-04-2003, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

And who would that be?

That would be I and Alarid Blue moon if you want to see some of my most recient work look it up like I had to do to see your servers snapshots and gfx. Or if you ask nice Ill post some

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G_yoshi · #33 08-05-2003, 07:18 AM

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Originally posted by davidpsy

That would be I and Alarid Blue moon if you want to see some of my most recient work look it up like I had to do to see your servers snapshots and gfx. Or if you ask nice Ill post some .

Why look up what I've already seen, hmm? It is very nice looking is all that I can say

davidpsy · #34 08-05-2003, 07:41 AM

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Originally posted by G_yoshi

Why look up what I've already seen, hmm? It is very nice looking is all that I can say

*Says in a strong bad (You know strong bad from homestarrunner) voice*
Oh well thanks

Aknts · #35 08-05-2003, 08:34 AM

Are these stolen? I know the server that stole them.

Waltz5 · #36 08-05-2003, 08:51 AM

SSlink made them. They were the ones that were going to be used for the server with Scream, SSLink, you, and me (forget the name). So unless they have SSLink working for them, they're stolen.

Golbez · #37 08-05-2003, 09:25 AM

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Originally posted by Thallen
Faldur and Archaic are probably the 2 lead rented playerworlds in the graphics area, and I have seen so many places stealing their work.

Your telling me someone is stealing Archaics work?
ALRIGHT THIS HAS GONE TO FAR!!!! BLOO KAT SPENT DAYS WORKING ON THOSE GRAPHICS AND FOR WHAT?? TO BE STOLEN BY A BUNCH OF FOOLS!!!! This is getting me mad, is Unix back yet, he needs to deal with this

davidpsy · #38 08-05-2003, 10:43 AM

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Originally posted by Aknts
Are these stolen? I know the server that stole them.

Who stoled them?

Aknts · #39 08-05-2003, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by Waltz5
SSlink made them. They were the ones that were going to be used for the server with Scream, SSLink, you, and me (forget the name). So unless they have SSLink working for them, they're stolen.

I know..

The server was endemic but I was saying it b/c look at davidspy's sig. Sanastratatsa has the same grass. So I was going to be like yea that server Sans stole them.. heh

superb · #40 08-05-2003, 07:41 PM

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Originally posted by Aknts

I know..
The server was endemic but I was saying it b/c look at davidspy's sig. Sanastratatsa has the same grass. So I was going to be like yea that server Sans stole them.. heh

That doesn't look like the same grass to me