Bravo Online

zrpgp2p · #1 06-11-2003, 07:28 PM

I have been recently playing on bravo online (aka the era ripoff).
I have been reading about how bravo's guns are different from era's, and how they also changed things.

I recently went on only to discover that there was the Pound Gatling gun (the name was taken directly from era, no creativity this time). I somewhat understood them earlier, but when I saw that the knife was the melee weapon, and that they started to take era's gun names, I decided to boycot this server.

I would like to see some creativity used in Bravo before I, or any of my friends ever play there again. And PLEASE don't respond to this thread with the answer that the Pound Gatling is a "common" gun name, because that is in no way that is true.

Spark910 · #2 06-11-2003, 07:59 PM

This is the main thing that annoys me the most. Look at the pixel taking here.... on the gun trail....

And yes ''gatling gun'' is common, 'pound' is not =/

Brandon · #3 06-11-2003, 08:09 PM

Two things:

(1) There is no gun on Bravo with that name.
and
(2) The bullet animation will be changed immediately.

Spark910 · #4 06-11-2003, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brandon
Two things:

(1) There is no gun on Bravo with that name.
and
(2) The bullet animation will be changed immediately.

Okay. And good good, thankyou.

Proxy · #5 06-11-2003, 08:19 PM

I believe using the premise of another server as a feature on your server is merely an attempt to compensate for lack of interest in the second server, and try to gain attention using one of the things the first server uses.

In other words:

Using guns (which is what makes Era unique) as a weapon on Bravo is an attempt to try to compensate for lack of interest in Bravo and possibly attract people by using what makes Era unique, and one of the reasons people like Era so much.

zrpgp2p · #6 06-11-2003, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Brandon
Two things:

(1) There is no gun on Bravo with that name.
and
(2) The bullet animation will be changed immediately.

REALLY? Try walking in your hospital.

Where it says medpacks left: ect... yesterday it said pound gatling.

Too bad there isnt a creativity check that is done.
Bravo would surely fail.

zrpgp2p · #7 06-11-2003, 09:42 PM

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Originally posted by Brandon

(2) The bullet animation will be changed immediately.

Oh yes, and one last thing. The fact that you even makde that animation is appauling. I mean you changed the bullet size slightly and reordered the movements. I've never seen such effortless work in my entire life.

Darlene159 · #8 06-11-2003, 10:47 PM

wow, I just signed on Bravo online for the first time since they changed it....It is almost exactly like Era

zrpgp2p · #9 06-11-2003, 11:13 PM

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Originally posted by Darlene159
wow, I just signed on Bravo online for the first time since they changed it....It is almost exactly like Era

I rest my case.

Oh, and yay! Another floridian lol. Im from Miami

cloudstrifevii · #10 06-12-2003, 01:05 AM

Bravo is a terrible attempt at copying Era. The guns take off 15 damage they shoot so rapidly there is barely any time inbetween bullets. And you have 20 health with guns that kill you in 1 hit. =/

Spark910 · #11 06-12-2003, 10:07 AM

Its supposed to be bravo modern. I think it would be better without guns, as it could still work.

Golbez · #12 06-12-2003, 05:42 PM

If you really want to talk rips, lets talk rips.
Era, didnt even make there own tile set they edited it!
It was orignaly for Tritian (so I hear) and DarkVillian made it.

1.) The gun idea wasnt first on Era, it started way before it.
2.) Era was made after Grand Teft Auto 3, right after it came out for 1 month
3.) Wow, we changed our sword to a knife, doesnt mean it came from Era x.x (What else can we make it into, swords arnt even mordern)
4.) We arnt the only server who tried this
5.) City Idea first came from LostSouls awhile back by iSplash, then Tritian wanted to bring it back, then Era copyed (or ripped you might say, witch is totaly the wroung term to say it) there idea.
Reasons why we did this:
1.) Old Graal stuff is getting boring and it doesnt attract any more.
2.) Anther place to go other then Era (There staff suck btw they dont do anything, I havent seen any big changes in over 3 months since I quit playing.)
3.) To have alittle fun

Rundora Complaints:
About the GFX's, we have no clue who uploaded Darwins GFX's but we will find out, but its not a big problem any more since he works for us. As for Wan complaining about the trees he told us we can use them, then all of a sudden he comes and says he doesnt want them here any more. I have no clue if there going to be deleted at all or replaced thats something you should ask MD (MysticalDragon).

Spark910 · #13 06-12-2003, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by Golbez
Rundora Complaints:
About the GFX's, we have no clue who uploaded Darwins GFX's but we will find out, but its not a big problem any more since he works for us. As for Wan complaining about the trees he told us we can use them, then all of a sudden he comes and says he doesnt want them here any more. I have no clue if there going to be deleted at all or replaced thats something you should ask MD (MysticalDragon).

Yes Darwin now works there, so thats that sorted.
And about the tree, it was Seracides (or someones) who let Wan use it on his project for his old PW and Rudora, even though I would advise them not to use the tree, as its ugly, the creator of the GFX doesnt wish for it to be on bravo. But it doesnt matter, we cant do anything, we get no co-operation, and no high admins wish to help, so technically, there is no problem, as there is no solution.

DarkShadows_Legend · #14 06-12-2003, 08:15 PM

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Era, didnt even make there own tile set they edited it!
It was orignaly for Tritian (so I hear) and DarkVillian made it.

We could have a huge debate on that, but the only person that knows who made it is the person that made those tiles.

I've heard that parts of Era's tileset was used on that RP playerworld that bans people. Valikorlia or something.
I also heard that some parts was stolen from NW, and some parts tooken from Tritan and some from some other playerworld that was based on London or soemthing.
For all we know, all of those playerworlds (except NW) probably stole the tiles.

zrpgp2p · #15 06-12-2003, 11:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Golbez
If you really want to talk rips, lets talk rips.
Era, didnt even make there own tile set they edited it!
It was orignaly for Tritian (so I hear) and DarkVillian made it.

1.) The gun idea wasnt first on Era, it started way before it.
2.) Era was made after Grand Teft Auto 3, right after it came out for 1 month
3.) Wow, we changed our sword to a knife, doesnt mean it came from Era x.x (What else can we make it into, swords arnt even mordern)
4.) We arnt the only server who tried this
5.) City Idea first came from LostSouls awhile back by iSplash, then Tritian wanted to bring it back, then Era copyed (or ripped you might say, witch is totaly the wroung term to say it) there idea.
Reasons why we did this:
1.) Old Graal stuff is getting boring and it doesnt attract any more.
2.) Anther place to go other then Era (There staff suck btw they dont do anything, I havent seen any big changes in over 3 months since I quit playing.)
3.) To have alittle fun

Lets all get something strait here. Bravo's tileset sucks, and it was a complete rip off of Era. And by the way I wouldnt diss Era, because in reality you are dissing yourself.

zell12 · #16 06-12-2003, 11:34 PM

You make no sence, at all.

zrpgp2p · #17 06-12-2003, 11:45 PM

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Originally posted by zell12
You make no sence, at all.

Were you refering to me?

zell12 · #18 06-12-2003, 11:49 PM

I wonder. :o

YoungTwist · #19 06-23-2003, 06:44 PM

Ok, Graal Online is like Zelda, but now its diffrent from Zelda. Ok.
then, Bravo Online is like Era, Soon its going to be diffrent from Era. Isnt better to have 2 or more servers with the same idea so its less lag on Era. I dunno if you notice era is 56% lag. But its a really nice server. Bravo Online is thinking of diffrent ideas and were really only 45% done. We just only rush threw things and did things fast but were slowing down now and makeing it 100% better and yes we are competing against Era. Its better to compete then to fight right?

Spark910 · #20 06-23-2003, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by YoungTwist
Ok, Graal Online is like Zelda, but now its diffrent from Zelda. Ok.
then, Bravo Online is like Era, Soon its going to be diffrent from Era. Isnt better to have 2 or more servers with the same idea so its less lag on Era. I dunno if you notice era is 56% lag. But its a really nice server. Bravo Online is thinking of diffrent ideas and were really only 45% done. We just only rush threw things and did things fast but were slowing down now and makeing it 100% better and yes we are competing against Era. Its better to compete then to fight right?

While you may be new to the forums, do you not realise you have opened up an old thread about Bravo and Era which is such an argumen on graal, and by doing so you have just basically said ''ARGUE/FLAME BRAVO'' this thread was best left old.

Golbez · #21 06-23-2003, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by YoungTwist
Ok, Graal Online is like Zelda, but now its diffrent from Zelda. Ok.
then, Bravo Online is like Era, Soon its going to be diffrent from Era. Isnt better to have 2 or more servers with the same idea so its less lag on Era. I dunno if you notice era is 56% lag. But its a really nice server. Bravo Online is thinking of diffrent ideas and were really only 45% done. We just only rush threw things and did things fast but were slowing down now and makeing it 100% better and yes we are competing against Era. Its better to compete then to fight right?

Face the facts Twist, Bravo has become a Era wannabe

Even Sky and Brandon think so :/

draygin · #22 06-23-2003, 08:33 PM

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Originally posted by YoungTwist
Ok, Graal Online is like Zelda, but now its diffrent from Zelda. Ok.
then, Bravo Online is like Era, Soon its going to be diffrent from Era. Isnt better to have 2 or more servers with the same idea so its less lag on Era. I dunno if you notice era is 56% lag. But its a really nice server. Bravo Online is thinking of diffrent ideas and were really only 45% done. We just only rush threw things and did things fast but were slowing down now and makeing it 100% better and yes we are competing against Era. Its better to compete then to fight right?

Bravo doesnt lag because of a 100+ players. It lags badly because of poor scripting. I remember when there was 300+ players on at a time and it was about as laggy as Era is now with only 1/3 of the population. With 100+ People there should still be vertually no lag.

osrs · #23 06-24-2003, 02:21 AM

I dont know why you guys are always saying bad things about Bravo.It's a nice playerworld,they didnt stole Era's NPCs,Levels etc..they made a new overworld based on Era,what's different.
Stop it people,leave Bravo alone ^_^'

MarkB · #24 06-24-2003, 03:14 AM

Aight guys but before you go flipping off your rocker, let me just add that brandon did NOT want Bravo to switch like that...brandon went away for a few days and he came back and p00f, it was switched. He told them to changeit backa nd they all threatened to quit and destroy the server if it went back...so it is not brandons fault.

protagonist · #25 06-24-2003, 03:46 AM

Bravo should just go back to Andor. This all started when they tried to bring back old bravo, which didn't work.

URBANLEGEND · #26 06-24-2003, 04:36 AM

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Originally posted by protagonist
Bravo should just go back to Andor. This all started when they tried to bring back old bravo, which didn't work.

Exactly!

Questa · #27 06-24-2003, 04:46 AM

Or just quit putting up worlds that weren't originally approved by the PWA. In other words, shut them down. They're beating a dead horse for christ's sake.

MarkB · #28 06-24-2003, 05:56 AM

Eras guns take off 1.5 -2 damage...at 15 HP that is a heck of a lot of bulelts someone can take...
In real life can someone take like 8 hits from a bullet and still live? The only person I know of is prolly jagen cuz he is pwn like that........or there is 50 cent, lmao

They should reduce the ammount of bullets fired and have it do like 7 damage

YoungTwist · #29 06-24-2003, 06:19 AM

HAHAHA staff never said they were going to quit .brandon liked the idea after and gave in and kept it. And spark, lol haha i wont get started on you. Ok, graal is stolen from Zelda..
Thanks Osrs.. lol and i dont care if bravo is modren or not, ill build ither way. So it wouldnt matter to me. Iam just bringing this back up becasue i heared it from 10 diffrent people again. Bravo is not laggy. when i play it, it dont lag for me. Yeah Bravo should go back to Andor but i have no sayiong of what it does or ither do any of you. So why dont you keep your mouth shut and play graal. Thank You!

MarkB · #30 06-24-2003, 09:35 AM

when bravo was andor it was an excellant playerworld, it lacked players, the players didnt know how good it actually was

JrTerrorist · #31 06-24-2003, 11:15 AM

My bravo is messed, its in the middle of a chat program with three GUI's on it, and the lack of staff means I cant get my account reset. Could you guys please post screenies so I can see this stuff? :[

Warcaptain · #32 06-24-2003, 12:11 PM

hah, bravo has never been original

it always stole things from enigma, and then said that it was okay because they scripted it themselves.

even though the gfx names and concepts were all the same, they scripted it!

Spark910 · #33 06-24-2003, 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by Questa
Or just quit putting up worlds that weren't originally approved by the PWA. In other words, shut them down. They're beating a dead horse for christ's sake.

We did try and get Bravo removed. We did research, go some accounts that wouldn’t be detected, got image proof, got quote proof, wrote up the copies/steals/similarities, Kish agreed with what was in the final document, so did Houdini and so did I. Aftershock then came and agreed to everything in the document. We then passed it onto Nem, a few days later Nem was brought onto Bravo by my self to sort out some other thing, when he came on, well I wont quote him but his comments were funny and not in Bravos favour. So Nem agreed. With everyone agreeing we got Stefan in, he said he would speak to Bravo team about this and make them change, when Stefan came on, apparently they sweet talked him out of shutting them down, and so, no actions were put into action. Stefan should take our opinions and views more, I know its part his game, but for things like Bravo when not only the PWA but the whole player community is almost agreeing on what should be the future, he should listen to the team he wanted in place so he didnt have to do things like this!

As a few people have said, what is the point in us working as PW Administration, if everything we said is going to be overlooked or overriden.

protagonist · #34 06-24-2003, 02:44 PM

I say let the kids have their server, but they'll have to pay for it soon enough

.

Quote:

hah, bravo has never been original

Nope, you're wrong. Stop trying to place a formerly popular server in the same league as your thing.

MarkB · #35 06-24-2003, 09:15 PM

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Originally posted by Warcaptain
hah, bravo has never been original

it always stole things from enigma, and then said that it was okay because they scripted it themselves.

even though the gfx names and concepts were all the same, they scripted it!

good one wc

enigma did real well

Zurkiba · #36 06-25-2003, 01:11 AM

Bravo isn't a rip off of Era... I dislike how they changed it. But if you say that Bravo is a ripoff of Era then you're saying that All of the servers pre-Era were ripoffs of Classic.

Darlene159 · #37 06-25-2003, 02:38 AM

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Originally posted by Zurkiba
Bravo isn't a rip off of Era... I dislike how they changed it. But if you say that Bravo is a ripoff of Era then you're saying that All of the servers pre-Era were ripoffs of Classic.

Classic was made of the basic tileset, and such.....when we made PW's, we were allowed to use the basics correct?
Era has an original tileset, and as far as I knew, we arent allowed to use anything original from any PW except classic and 2001, correct?
So, there is a difference between using things we are allowed to use, and using things we are not allowed to use.

Androk · #38 06-25-2003, 04:27 AM

All serevrs started as a rip off of Classic. N-Pulse was first.
Then 2001 came along and... everyone started making jobs! Oh joy!
Era came out and... OH MY! Another Era appeared, same tiles, weapons and bullets, same style game play etc. For god's sake! Bravo is a poor rip off of Era. ANyone who denis it is a fool.

And stop with "Graal ripped Zelda", because Zelda was never online, Graal appeared to allow it to go online.

JrTerrorist · #39 06-25-2003, 09:03 AM

how do I exit the chat program i'm stuck in?? :/
Darn bravo..

ApeHex · #40 06-25-2003, 02:00 PM

Bravo is the ***est server i ever played on.

*Boycots!*
Well Classic has slightly different tiles now. I think Bravo is a rip off of Era. If PW's now were rip off of Classic they would use same idea for a server. Some player worlds have totally different idea's and some are just crappy like UN.
:O!