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Old 10-14-2002, 09:23 AM
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new graal exe works fine for me (after i used the replaceani to get back normal bodys) good job stefan .
my server files and things still work woot!!
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Old 10-14-2002, 09:29 AM
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Please download v2.16 revision2, it fixes a lot of problems with lights and scripts on classic.

Some stuff which will be fixed in revision3 (will release that when all bugs have been reported):

- the udp error earning pops up too often
- enter key stops pause even when typing something in the chat field
sweet! my lights work fine now! Thanks stefan.
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Old 10-14-2002, 09:36 AM
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try removing the Graal trainers you have on your comp , I say this because you were just banned for hacking with a trainer on Npulse.....
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Old 10-14-2002, 09:41 AM
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I opened a level, if was fine, maxed the screen, and the tiles turned all to black. Fix.
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Old 10-14-2002, 09:59 AM
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Don't Download The Latest Graal Version!

I d/led the new Graal version and whenever I try to increase the size of the screen the WHOLE THING F'S UP?! Anyone else having this problem? Check out the screenshot for yourself!
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Old 10-14-2002, 10:01 AM
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happenes in level editor as well
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Old 10-14-2002, 10:06 AM
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If anyone has the previous version of Graal still please e-mail it to me at [email protected]
You can switch back when you set it up... there is a menu thing for it...
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Old 10-14-2002, 10:07 AM
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Huh?! Please be more specific keeping in mind I'm not a computer whiz.
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Old 10-14-2002, 10:11 AM
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Huh?! Please be more specific keeping in mind I'm not a computer whiz.
At the packages screen in the setup, click the areas under the New column. (little things with rotate symbols next to them)

You can click to Keep the current files, download the older ones, or download the newest. Also, you can reinstall and uninstall.
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Old 10-14-2002, 10:57 AM
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Old 10-14-2002, 11:15 AM
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My frikkin lights won;t work PERIOD even with the new version
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Old 10-14-2002, 12:29 PM
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Alright. Well, three bugs:

-When going to the full screen mode, it makes all the tiles black, retarting doesn't help. Expecially when you are playing offline ;-)

-In the options, there are two "General" tabs.

-When at the serverlist screen, then going back (Pressing F8) the "Training" buttion is gone.
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Old 10-14-2002, 05:30 PM
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Alright. Well, three bugs:

-When going to the full screen mode, it makes all the tiles black, retarting doesn't help. Expecially when you are playing offline ;-)

-In the options, there are two "General" tabs.

-When at the serverlist screen, then going back (Pressing F8) the "Training" buttion is gone.
Works fine for me, but I haven't tried fullscreen.
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Old 10-14-2002, 05:57 PM
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Scince when did the thread I start become a sticky?
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Old 10-14-2002, 07:05 PM
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This new version has got some issues
I told Stefan about the messed lights days before the release, and he did not fix it yet. The new tutorial is pretty pointless, not teaching anything and making it neccessary to set your body to the old one manually. We press Q and see a bomb and a bow and an arrow, but cannot use them. The new features are nice, I requested some of them myself and really appreticiate the others, but I have not yet got to use them because of these problems

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In Training mode. (which doesn't seem to train)

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Old 10-14-2002, 09:11 PM
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Lots of scripts don't work anymore, like for example in "putexplosion" the explosion doesn't appear.
Other commands are bugged aswell.
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Old 10-14-2002, 10:08 PM
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With the new version the graphics are choppy when moving... and, for me at least, spells seem more laggy. The FIRST time I display the transparent Q menu, it practically freezes Graal for a second or so, so there may be something wrong with the codeing for when you FIRST initialize a new, transparent graphic.

People have said that resizeing messes up the tiles... that doesn't happen for me, but when I resize graal, it is quite slow and choppy, and I have a 2.4 GHz Pentium 4 with 512 MB of DDR RAM, so all those people with slower computers must be having some problems with this.
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Old 10-14-2002, 10:26 PM
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Now this is happening...
That Appears to be a tile set error or a memory problem.

Many problems appear when memory runs low, and the newer versions are using more and more memory

*Note* If you get a Cannot Draw error, or such, its not the new exe it is a memory error so reboot your computer
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Old 10-15-2002, 01:36 AM
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With the new version the graphics are choppy when moving... and, for me at least, spells seem more laggy. The FIRST time I display the transparent Q menu, it practically freezes Graal for a second or so, so there may be something wrong with the codeing for when you FIRST initialize a new, transparent graphic.

People have said that resizeing messes up the tiles... that doesn't happen for me, but when I resize graal, it is quite slow and choppy, and I have a 2.4 GHz Pentium 4 with 512 MB of DDR RAM, so all those people with slower computers must be having some problems with this.
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Old 10-15-2002, 02:16 AM
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Well here is a list of what is wrong for me:

Lights work offline but not online
NO WARP RINGS WORK ON CLASSIC
I have a permanent HALO on my head on Classic that I didnt get on purpose
Bombs and Arrows wont work even if I have 30 of each
Perma Clothes do not work on Classic
Zrobi Ring is Messed up
Cannot Chat while Paused
MY MAGIC BAR WONT REGENERATE
All my NPCW's with different levels (like fishing pole, mace, hammer, etc.) Are all level 1 until I use them (its a minor annoyance)

here are things that have been an improvement
ALOT less lag than before.


Please fix these if you know what is causing them..im stuck underwater unless i use unstick me but thats just...wrong.
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Old 10-15-2002, 02:28 AM
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Well here is a list of what is wrong for me:

Lights work offline but not online
NO WARP RINGS WORK ON CLASSIC
I have a permanent HALO on my head on Classic that I didnt get on purpose
Bombs and Arrows wont work even if I have 30 of each
Perma Clothes do not work on Classic
Zrobi Ring is Messed up
Cannot Chat while Paused
MY MAGIC BAR WONT REGENERATE
All my NPCW's with different levels (like fishing pole, mace, hammer, etc.) Are all level 1 until I use them (its a minor annoyance)

here are things that have been an improvement
ALOT less lag than before.

Please fix these if you know what is causing them..im stuck underwater unless i use unstick me but thats just...wrong.
man sounds like your screwed
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Old 10-15-2002, 02:36 AM
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Do'h that doesnt look so good

come to find out lights work on every server BUT Classic for me hehe
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Old 10-15-2002, 03:58 AM
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hmm, I'm not having any of the problems most of you are having except with the scripts, putexplosion doesnt seem to work, one npc I had to take offline because it went crazy and developed a mind of its own, and some other script problems also...looks like I have to go through and change scripts yet again...*sigh*
But I guess it is all worth it if this new exe is as great as I am told it is
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But I guess it is all worth it if this new exe is as great as I am told it is
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Old 10-15-2002, 07:15 AM
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I swear people. My computer isn't old or new,
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but I know it's not hard.

I just installed everything adn it worked fine. Remember, do not press the "Delete all my ****e" button, and everything works fine.
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Old 10-17-2002, 06:30 AM
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Leik OMG Jebus... wtf happened to my graal? Ive reinstalled it twice ALL packs!
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Now I cant EVEN ACCESS gral because im getting that GetINputBaseDll problem, and yes I have the version released on the 15th
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Well here is a list of what is wrong for me:

Lights work offline but not online
NO WARP RINGS WORK ON CLASSIC
I have a permanent HALO on my head on Classic that I didnt get on purpose
The halo is the newbie protection you should get from Sister Gertrude. As soon as your AP drop it will go away...forever.
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Bombs and Arrows wont work even if I have 30 of each
Let me guess...they are displayed as chests?
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Perma Clothes do not work on Classic
I don't know why it is bugged (nobody touched the level the last month), but I'll rescript it.
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Zrobi Ring is Messed up
Stefan thought it would be cool to disable the setlevel command. Now 50-100 scripts on Classic don't work anymore. One of them is the Zorbi Ring.
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Cannot Chat while Paused
Should be fixed already...
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MY MAGIC BAR WONT REGENERATE
All my NPCW's with different levels (like fishing pole, mace, hammer, etc.) Are all level 1 until I use them (its a minor annoyance)

here are things that have been an improvement
ALOT less lag than before.

Please fix these if you know what is causing them..im stuck underwater unless i use unstick me but thats just...wrong.
Ok, here's the deal why many weapons don't work (including the system NPC which refills your MP):
Stefan optimised the scripting engine, so the weapon scripts don't get events/won't be loaded until something was triggered.
But the bow/bomb are constantly using timeouts which are initialized in if(playerenters) and something seems to be bugged there.

=> The new version nearly destroyed Classic.
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=> The new version nearly destroyed Classic.
Hate to say it, but you guys should convert to NPC Server.

Get a private server, and fix the levels one by one.
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Old 10-17-2002, 09:07 PM
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That would require three things.
1) An NPCServer. Unixmad said we'd be getting one sometime this week, but that assumes he remembers to pass the message on to Stefan.
2) A scripter who knows NPCServer that well. Miraculously, Com013's teaching himself the ropes.
3) Time. We don't have any and we're not likely to get any. While the most active (I might say the only active) LAT is working on the NPCServ version, Classic's gonna rot like this.
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Okay, most of the NPC weapon bugs were due to the fact that they were not properly scripted.
I fixed:
  • System (for your mp)
  • Bomb
  • Bow
  • Zorbi Ring
  • Perma Clothes (needed to be redone completly. If your stored clothes are messed up, delete the PermaClothes and get them again. Don't worry, you don't need to pay a second time).
  • Hammer
  • Fishing rod
I'll look at the shovel later.

The setlevel command is a huge problem...
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Old 10-18-2002, 03:57 AM
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They were misscripted?

Man. I scripted, like, all of those personally. Oops.
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I hereby offer my services in helping convert the NPCs for the NPC server. I have NPC server experience with Providence and Graal2001, and I could help you get your conversion done quicker than with just one person figuring it out as he goes. If you want a sample of my work, forum PM me or AIM flee the nutter

NPC server = a good thing, believe you me. The ability to reliably store data alone is worth the time taken to update the npcs.
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Old 10-18-2002, 04:45 AM
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For 6000 levels? =_=

Granted, I estimate 2000 of them are just play ___.mid and setbackpal, but still.

Com, if you want the help go ahead and draft him...I'm stayin' outta it for now. ^_^
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Old 10-18-2002, 11:37 PM
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They were misscripted?

Man. I scripted, like, all of those personally. Oops.
They used
NPC Code:

if (this.init == 0) {
this.init = 1;
//...
}


instead of
NPC Code:

if (created) {
// ...
}


The problem of the Zorbi Ring was simply setlevel.

The PermaClothes...er...completly bugged. I couldn't find the problem. Redid them.
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For 6000 levels? =_=

Granted, I estimate 2000 of them are just play ___.mid and setbackpal, but still.
Just guess what my converter will be doing?
The timeouts are the hugest problem for autoconverting. I wanted to do this:
NPC Code:

if (timeout) {
// ...
timeout = 0.05;
}


would be converted to
NPC Code:

if (timeout) {
for (c13sct=0; c13sct<2; c13sct++) {
//...
}
timeout = 0.1;
}


But:
  • that wouldn't work on NPCs which are using more than one value for the timeouts. (Just place the default NPC and set respawn).
  • And it would be very hard to do anyway.
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Com, if you want the help go ahead and draft him...I'm stayin' outta it for now. ^_^
I thought we weren't allowed to give levels/level access to non-LATs? Do we have to hire him first? I could ask Loriel, too...
I will remember Jeff when we get the server and the levels got through the first conversion step.
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