Unholy Nation: The adventure!

HoudiniMan · #1 08-28-2002, 03:52 PM

Dear log-

Having played this playerworld in the past during similar server crashes I have obtained all the relatively recent items. I haven't taken into account the staff's ability to help players much here but I did notice that there were no FAQ to be seen. The GP chief seems to be ill equipped for his job. I was of course bored so I decided to revive my sparring and go "own some noobs"... I was winning my fair share of about 20 battles, died 3 times... twice to spar pkers... When i was preparing for my next skirmish, after i healed, i found myself inside thier local jail... I will post the conversation that ensued, summarized, but not biased:

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You (8/28/02 12:49:31 AM):
please ask account name galphorious to not spar pk me and interfer with our
fun =(
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You (8/28/02 12:55:22 AM):
excuse me sir, why am i in jail?
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Opposite (8/28/02 12:55:53 AM):
spar running.....u are in for 30 min
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You (8/28/02 12:56:25 AM):
we never started. i was waiting for white angel and they were screwing around
attacking me. i simply left because we were not sparring.
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Opposite (8/28/02 12:57:20 AM):
thats why u waited adn u were hitting her too.....u got down to 1
heart and then u ran...so ha i got ya!
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You (8/28/02 12:57:24 AM):
It would seem i have been jailed for "running" from a couple fools who were
trying to spar pk me... hmm, this will make an interesting, yet very dull 30
minutes for my review
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You (8/28/02 12:58:03 AM):
i hit "him" back to make him go away, your job is not to capture me, please
understand... i have done nothign wrong.
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Opposite (8/28/02 12:58:06 AM):
what u want me to put u up for spar pking too? cause u were spar
pking if u say u werent sparring =\
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You (8/28/02 12:58:18 AM):
i did not kill him
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Opposite (8/28/02 12:58:30 AM):
it is still spar pk if u kill him or not
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You (8/28/02 12:59:00 AM):
he hit me 7 times before i retaliated. if you insist on putting me here for no
reason, jail him as well
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You (8/28/02 1:00:18 AM):
you have the wrong guy in here
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You (8/28/02 1:00:24 AM):
but he was a part as well
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You (8/28/02 1:02:01 AM):
well, i suppose this is where i end my review of your playerworld, very well.
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Opposite (8/28/02 1:02:21 AM):
?
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Opposite (8/28/02 1:02:32 AM):
u were reviewing our playerworld?
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Opposite (8/28/02 1:02:40 AM):
what are u some kind of global?
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You (8/28/02 1:03:08 AM):
my answer should not change anything... however in some cases it does...
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From there he goes on trying to prove to himself that he hasn't jailed a Graal Online administrator for no reason, though i never said I was one... Restating virtually both sides of our conversation in an attempt to rationalize his actions...
In the end...:

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Opposite (8/28/02 1:20:31 AM):
your time is up
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Opposite (8/28/02 1:20:50 AM):
and,,,,,i thought u did say something about sparring then that
happened...im sorry if there was confusion
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You (8/28/02 1:21:13 AM):
Its a bit late for appologies now my friend, try to be more open minded in the
future.
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Its nice to see that he finally considered that i could be telling the truth, but it was a blemish in my memories...

For my most recent and past playing on Unholy Nations I give:
Quests 8/10, many of them well placed around the map, however the map is....

Map 5/10 Mostly a jumble of paths with nothing inbetween, a skeleton of a PW but no real solid overworld is present

Staff 3/10 Accounting for the above mentioned, as well as an Events Team member sitting in the jail, agreeing with them that "the magician has nu ballz"... (-_-)

Players 8/10 No real sense of dignity among them, but it is to be expected from any and all Playerworlds that aren't invite-only...

Entertainment with a play-again value 3/10 Without the assitance of an ET there really is nothing to do but sit or spar... With the assistance of an ET I only know of one event, which of course would be... spar tourny

Overall, they're doing well and have a strong player base but need to rehire some staff and get a Development team in there to make an overworld.

Until next time

-HoudiniMan

P.S. If anybody would like to quote this, please only quote the section(s) you are responding to, thanks

VampiricTutorNewHD · #2 08-28-2002, 06:18 PM

I am going to have to agree with the staff system there for the most part.

I was under their nose for about 1 year. I watched them hire *****s. And *****s. And more *****s. Which were each in turn fired. Then I got a staff job somewhere and turned responsible and uncorrupt.

The players dignity went with the easy-money system. Now everyone and their dog is a potential hooker.

Lyndzey · #3 08-28-2002, 07:10 PM

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Originally posted by HoudiniMan
For my most recent and past playing on Unholy Nations I give:
Quests 8/10, many of them well placed around the map, however the map is....

Map 5/10 Mostly a jumble of paths with nothing inbetween, a skeleton of a PW but no real solid overworld is present

Staff 3/10 Accounting for the above mentioned, as well as an Events Team member sitting in the jail, agreeing with them that "the magician has nu ballz"... (-_-)

Players 8/10 No real sense of dignity among them, but it is to be expected from any and all Playerworlds that aren't invite-only...

Entertainment with a play-again value 3/10 Without the assitance of an ET there really is nothing to do but sit or spar... With the assistance of an ET I only know of one event, which of course would be... spar tourny

I agree with you on the most part except for quests...when I did them, they seemed to be kill the baddy. Then the l3 sword was at this gambling place, so basically you paid 1000 and got the l3 sword.

warp2ukew · #4 08-28-2002, 07:24 PM

The owner of the server should be Kitana. She is the only NORMAL one.

VampiricTutorNewHD · #5 08-28-2002, 08:43 PM

1)Did she pay you to say that?
2)She isn't on much.

Jinx · #6 08-28-2002, 08:57 PM

*sigh* Who was that who jailed you?

-Jinx

konidias · #7 08-28-2002, 09:19 PM

Opposite (8/28/02 12:58:30 AM):
it is still spar pk if u kill him or not

HAHA wtf kind of logic is that? How is it a "playerkill" if you did not kill a player?

VampiricTutorNewHD · #8 08-28-2002, 09:39 PM

Attempted Spar PKing?

SavantMiles · #9 08-28-2002, 10:26 PM

well spar pking is a big thing on un, i have no idea why i tried to get it changed but it dident work, and why the person that jailed you only took one persons side of the story and not yours, is completely wrong and killjoy needs to speak with them

Sir_Gareth · #10 08-28-2002, 11:52 PM

AHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA

I wont even comment.

Androk2k1 · #11 08-29-2002, 12:11 AM

Scince when is Spar PKing and Spar Running is a crime? That's the worst and most pathetic rules... Meh, I don't play on UN anyway, Scince it seems to me like there is no story line, but oh well.

I think PWs should be reviewd every 3 months or so after they get up, and if they fail to pass, they are to be turned into private until they pass. That'll help alot with boosing PW Develpoment.

VampiricTutorNewHD · #12 08-29-2002, 12:21 AM

How so? I think that having players there to give their opinion on a PW is more valuable than just guessing about what the majority would prefer.

Also spar PKing/running should be punished. You fight to earn rating, and then to have some **** steal it is not very fun. The thieves of early 2K2 were no different.

Spark910 · #13 08-29-2002, 01:16 AM

I havent player UN much, but the Staff list is always empty people just on RC with name as DND or normal name, ts ok but with the ammout of people who play UN they should be in staff section on RC so they can help us.

Zakur · #14 08-29-2002, 01:22 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey

I agree with you on the most part except for quests...when I did them, they seemed to be kill the baddy. Then the l3 sword was at this gambling place, so basically you paid 1000 and got the l3 sword.

If you know where to look, you can get all of the hearts and items in a few hours. ;[

Lyndzey · #15 08-29-2002, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by Zakur

If you know where to look, you can get all of the hearts and items in a few hours. ;[

I just got a heart by beating 4 arrow baddies. Go me!

Chaos0838 · #16 08-29-2002, 01:37 AM

Taxing stuff isn't it?

-Kiirar, elf of sarcasm

HoudiniMan · #17 08-29-2002, 03:55 AM

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Originally posted by Lyndzey

I agree with you on the most part except for quests...when I did them, they seemed to be kill the baddy. Then the l3 sword was at this gambling place, so basically you paid 1000 and got the l3 sword.

I should have been more clear. Since i had not recently done the quests I don't know if they've changed and without re-doing them I can't state my opinion with any backing... I was referring to where they were on the map, they're placed pretty well and far apart enough to be actually going somewhere on a quest... But there really isn't anything inbetween them so follow the paths and there you go... However now that i remember a couple, they were pretty lame

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Originally posted by Jinx
*sigh* Who was that who jailed you?

-Jinx

I don't want anybody in trouble since he did appologize in the end, sorta..

his nick was just "DF (GP Chief)"... whatever DF stands for i don't know.

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Originally posted by konidias
Opposite (8/28/02 12:58:30 AM):
it is still spar pk if u kill him or not

HAHA wtf kind of logic is that? How is it a "playerkill" if you did not kill a player?

Beats me

Okilian · #18 08-29-2002, 03:58 AM

U know, about the ET, they come on certain times. I think maybe they need to hire a few more. Oh well. The events are coming along quite well.

If anyone ever has a valid question, you can always ask me. I will answer everyone's as long as they aren't to be staff.

Oh yeah, about the beginning, tell me the staff and we'll talk

HoudiniMan · #19 08-29-2002, 04:08 AM

I don't intend on having anybody punished... I'm just glad to be able to see and review how a playerworld works on a regular basis rather than if they know inspections are coming or if they seen a PWA in the player list...

These logs are actually pretty cool projects, entertaining to make but still have a journalistic or professional quality to them

I think I'll be making more of these so all you playerworlds out there better fix that glitch in level 175-a that you know about but haven't gotten to

Aruchinjiru · #20 08-29-2002, 06:38 AM

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Originally posted by HoudiniMan

Staff 3/10 Accounting for the above mentioned, as well as an Events Team member sitting in the jail, agreeing with them that "the magician has nu ballz"... (-_-)

You have got to be kidding me that a ET had the nerve to say that? Their staff structure needs to be looked into, maybe even fixed to say the least. =\

jinkazama2k2 · #21 08-31-2002, 08:04 AM

Im ETA on UN and so has taken 3/4 of my time really . Networking classes etc. So I can't be on often. I know UN need more ET and fix events, but it will be fixed at a later date.

I just love UN. Something about it. Also Vampire if u wouldnt complain soooo much, I know u would of become staff b/c u are cool but was an ass at that time

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I know UN has no storyline but it has the ppl and thats what u make a server for. The ppl

Legondary_MyTH · #22 08-31-2002, 08:23 AM

But see houdini you have to see this from the players point of view.Players like to get on a server with limited rules and yes if you look there is alot to do.Just have to find them and It isnt easy to make money anymore.Since Liquid abolished the easy money UN has picked up on things.Hats,auctions,like 20 events.
And i agree about the staff they are all lazy and yes the LATs really suck out outside lvls but hey!thats the way the players like it so can you blame people for going?I mean if you "really" look you will find alot of things to do.Sparring is very popular these days and UN is the best place to do it.So you might wanna go back and take a closer look and try to see things as if you were a player that liked those kind of things unlike a RP freak that likes to listen to boring storylines that die after 2 quest =D