Survival?

[Sonniku4]

Something is off when I barely walk outside of unstick me, gun out, ready for anything... just to stop by Dairy Hut when all of a sudden a guy jacked up on steroids and toting an expensive gun suddenly drops me before I can fire the third shot, which by the way, misses. How long did I last? 1-2 seconds. This has happened to me on a regular basis, as well as many others.

Don't bring the argument that it's all about skill and that I don't know how to fight, 'noob', all that BS. I've been on Era for a long time. I get back on after a few months hiatus, and all of a sudden there's something markedly different about everything. Suddenly I'm seeing people left and right being completely unable to defend themselves effectively because of this breakout of anabolic steroid usage and expensive military hardware.

I used to be able to defend myself with a basic double barrel shotgun.

And another thing that totally makes sense is to make No-PK zones somewhat free game. I merely take a stray Uzi round from across the gmap that wasn't intended for me as I head into Unstick because I need to check something for a moment-- and I'm already flagged. The whole point of a NoPK zone is for it to be a safe area. I'd understand if it flagged me if I fired back or hit someone, but not when I'm just trying to stop for a moment. People run away from fights, seek haven and heal, but big deal. That just means that people need to get better at killing someone before they reach safety. Leave that as it was before.

Suggestion for the PK tagging system:
Only tag people that have hurt someone. If they shoot anyone that doesn't fight back, their target doesn't get the penalty. This means that the so-called 'lame PKers' that fight and then run to noPK and heal won't get that benefit. People just passing by won't get murdered because they got hit by a stray bullet which alerted 10 vultures nearby, and newbies get some relief. And are more challenging to hunt down.

Suggestions for the unbalanced steroid supplements/firearms:
I assume that the firearms are balanced in EDEV.
If (if not, disregard) the Gelat Lightness Potion can be stacked with the GRC coffee (Capp+Light), do something to give non-gelat spenders some sort of fighting chance. It's like these highrollers are buying a weeklong speed hack with their BFG9000.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Sonniku4

...when all of a sudden a guy jacked up on steroids and toting an expensive gun suddenly drops me before I can fire the third shot...

And then

Originally Posted by Sonniku4

That just means that people need to get better at killing someone before they reach safety.

Seriously though.
The No-PK system is actually very good, you're probably just not familiar with it yet. It's very hard for somebody that isn't actively chasing you to take advantage of the 5 second window. If somebody else wants to try and kill you then they need to stand outside the level and shoot into it, which makes it easy to just walk to the other side of the town hall, or behind a table or something and you're safe, but usually by the time they realise you're vulnerable and they leave the level you're already No-PK again.

[Sonniku4]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

And then



Seriously though.
The No-PK system is actually very good, you're probably just not familiar with it yet. It's very hard for somebody that isn't actively chasing you to take advantage of the 5 second window. If somebody else wants to try and kill you then they need to stand outside the level and shoot into it, which makes it easy to just walk to the other side of the town hall, or behind a table or something and you're safe, but usually by the time they realise you're vulnerable and they leave the level you're already No-PK again.

There's the thing though. Both advantages are toward the steroid enhanced highroller. I don't even need to be actively chased. It's an instantaneous trip to the hospital. And trust me, 5 seconds is a LONG time. Especially when the chaser already is PK enabled while I'm trying to go to the gun shop just to buy a damn crowbar.
"...people need to get better"- Better doesn't mean Lightweight potion + Speed boosting coffee and a 1 million dollar gun.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Sonniku4

There's the thing though. Both advantages are toward the steroid enhanced highroller. I don't even need to be actively chased. It's an instantaneous trip to the hospital. And trust me, 5 seconds is a LONG time. Especially when the chaser already is PK enabled while I'm trying to go to the gun shop just to buy a damn crowbar.
"...people need to get better"- Better doesn't mean Lightweight potion + Speed boosting coffee and a 1 million dollar gun.

Yeah but you made it seem like stray bullets were getting you killed, which isn't the case. Somebody needs to be actively chasing you and trying to kill you, in which case, why would you go shopping with a killer hot on your tail?

I agree that some guns have pretty unbalanced stats, but I still think that if you don't want to be killed then it's very easy to just run away. Run in circles around a building until the person chasing you gets bored, etc.

If you wanna do an experiment I'll get Godzilla to lend you his BAR and some Cappuccinos and then I'll run around the GMAP for 30 minutes, and if you can kill me one on one I'll paypal you $20.

Surviving is easy. Fighting back is hard, which is all up to gun balance.

[Sonniku4]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

Yeah but you made it seem like stray bullets were getting you killed, which isn't the case. Somebody needs to be actively chasing you and trying to kill you, in which case, why would you go shopping with a killer hot on your tail?
I agree that some guns have pretty unbalanced stats, but I still think that if you don't want to be killed then it's very easy to just run away. Run in circles around a building until the person chasing you gets bored, etc.
If you wanna do an experiment I'll get Godzilla to lend you his BAR and some Cappuccinos and then I'll run around the GMAP for 30 minutes, and if you can kill me one on one I'll paypal you $20.
Surviving is easy. Fighting back is hard, which is all up to gun balance.

No, I gave a hypothetical where I was flagged just for getting hit by a stray bullet which alerted a nearby vulture to fly right in. No space to run from that point on. I /was/ in the safe zone which wasn't safe for me.

Then the other hypothetical involved me going out of unstick to go shopping. In that case, I had no choice to run because I was dead by the time I even changed directions. Running in circles doesn't work... Trust me, I'm damn good at juking rushing PKers. That was my specialty. But not ones that are jacked up on coffee and Lightness. The thing is that I'm not given a chance to defend myself because I go from 101 to 0 in 1.5 seconds. Run, fight, juke, whatever.

I'll take you up on that bet if you give me a Lightness potion for the experiment, though.

[Supaman771]

Lightweight potion and Capps don't stack. 1.13 speed is the max, which is only a slight difference above the normal 1.08. People only really use capps because they are used to it and it helps them dodge in spars or whatnot. In reality, on the gmap where running between levels causes bullets to poof, and lag is a real possibility, if they're chasing you -and- shooting, you can easily outrun them just by running straight granted you don't hit any lag.

Tip for running: Head for the auction house, guns are disabled if you run upstairs, and you can just say 'leave' to warp back to unstick after your pk timer ends.

[Sonniku4]

Originally Posted by Supaman771

Lightweight potion and Capps don't stack.

Tip for running: Head for the auction house, guns are disabled if you run upstairs, and you can just say 'leave' to warp back to unstick after your pk timer ends.

So lightweight AND Capp can't be taken together for more speed? I know that taking in 2 of the same product won't stack. That's common sense.

Response to tip: I don't think I can make it to the auction house in 1 second.

[Supaman771]

Originally Posted by Sonniku4

So lightweight AND Capp can't be taken together for more speed?

Response to tip: I don't think I can make it to the auction house in 1 second.

No.

Response to response: You either lag severely or don't try.

[Herb_P2P]

Originally Posted by Sonniku4

I barely walk outside of unstick me, gun out, ready for anything... just to stop by Dairy Hut when all of a sudden a guy jacked up on steroids and toting an expensive gun suddenly drops me before I can fire the third shot, which by the way, misses.

thats what exactly happened to me. and i was like fk this and logged off aha

[Logababy]

You can die in 3 shots now.
If its a neo rifle.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by Logababy

You can die in 3 shots now.
If its a neo rifle.

If you die via 3 shots from a Neo Rifle while on the overworld, you really, really suck.

[Logababy]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

If you die via 3 shots from a Neo Rifle while on the overworld, you really, really suck.

Morgrim did it to alot of people xD

[Dnegel]

Morgrim shoots magic bullets, they stalk you thil you get hit by them.

[Sonniku4]

Originally Posted by Logababy

You can die in 3 shots now.
If its a neo rifle.

There never was a Neo Rifle mentioned in this topic. I know a few people that have it, but I never usually have to face them. Most of the time it's the AK copies with the more perfect stats.

Lag + not trying? I was lucky enough to actually be lagging today. Just got out of the sewers and a guy with his (speaking of which) souped up AK ran out of nowhere and shot at me right when I was in between levels. I was lucky enough to shift select my Cap and run off with all the lag and people getting in the way in unstick me, lucky enough to have a bystander see the guy and his PK tag and start diverting his attention. Finally made it into the bank, while lagging, safe from the guy. I called him a bunch of things and laughed at him after, as is the usual formality. I'm glad he wasn't souped up. So yes, I do try even while lagging.