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openURL (on v6) opens without prompt, that's probably more of a security concern than performClick.
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openURL (on v6) opens without prompt, that's probably more of a security concern than performClick.
I've noticed this on Mac as well.
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Something else I've noticed is that particles blur and have issues with small green artifacts showing around the edges in v6.
Name: particle_green.png Views: 2312 Size: 1.6 KB

There is no zoom, spin, or anything else that should make these blur. They work fine (solid edge) in v5.
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I've noticed this on Mac as well.
same here but on linux.

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According to Stephen on Windows 7, images (text) won't bold correctly in v6.
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with (findImg(200)) {
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According to Stephen on Windows 7, images (text) won't bold correctly in v6.
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While on topic with the text can it be drawn as the same font size (or at least the option added) as the V5 Client? A lot of the text drawn using findimgs, and guitextctrl's are off and clipped on Zodiac because of this.
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While on topic with the text can it be drawn as the same font size (or at least the option added) as the V5 Client? A lot of the text drawn using findimgs, and guitextctrl's are off and clipped on Zodiac because of this.
I agree, it would be a good idea to at least shrink the size a bit to emulate the old fonts.
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While on topic with the text can it be drawn as the same font size (or at least the option added) as the V5 Client? A lot of the text drawn using findimgs, and guitextctrl's are off and clipped on Zodiac because of this.
I was talking to Skyld about this once a while ago.

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Its like it's too big for the GUI's but in V5 they';re fine same with most other font related things everywhere
(10:57 PM) Skyld: Right just so you know. That's how those GUIs have looked on Mac and Linux ever since Graal v3. The font rendering on Windows has been changed to use the same rendering as Mac and Linux and iPhone so that GUIs are design once use everywhere. I don't think there's an option yet for changing font, but the client will happily use other fonts for showtext and stuff
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(10:59 PM) Skyld: To be honest I always thought the old font rendering on Windows client was terrible
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I was talking to Skyld about this once a while ago.
Sounds more realistic to create a emulation mode for old font than to have hugely self-righteous expectations.
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yay multi-platform focus so windows users get downgraded ftw!! also ill have to make a video of that "choppy" animation i was talking about because it's hard to explain yet would be very easy to show. just need to get fraps perfect~
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We will improve the font rendering because some fonts are appearing too "light". For GUI you should never rely on exact font sizes though, make right-aligned text right-aligned instead of relying on the exact font width.
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Would like the nicknames to be bold again, and this might be a related problem because even when I log onto servers with a custom nickname system they aren't using bold anymore.
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Just because it isn't acting all the same as before doesn't mean it is a downgrade. As far as I know, Stefan isn't finished with v6 yet, so he'll probably make it look more like before, before he releases it.
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I tried frapsing the bug which went fine and all but everytime I try to encode the gigantic AVI file the quality is horrible. Any suggestions or do people use Graal's inbuilt?

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I tried frapsing the bug which went fine and all but everytime I try to encode the gigantic AVI file the quality is horrible. Any suggestions or do people use Graal's inbuilt?
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Well I wanted to convert the fraps video to h.264 if possible...the quality with fraps is great but I just don't know how to convert it to something high quality so I can upload it to youtube!
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I just record with Graal and then use Windows Movie Maker to convert it. Though this depends a lot on what exactly you're doing(recording full screen or partial? Is the graal window filling your whole screen? Yada yada).
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Something else I've noticed is that particles blur and have issues with small green artifacts showing around the edges in v6.
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There is no zoom, spin, or anything else that should make these blur. They work fine (solid edge) in v5.
Hmmm modified it in my version so it should be fine with the next update.
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Cool. Please check out the issue with .05 timeouts slowing down to .1 timeouts for no reason and making everything go slow -- that's easily the most important bug.
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Is there a list of new features for v6 anywhere? I searched and couldn't find anything.

Would also be nice if someone (GDT maybe???) compiled a list of frequent suggestions and problems so that nothing important is missed. I don't want to have to wait another couple of years for simple but useful stuff like shoot2() because it was lost in the pages and pages of suggestions.
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I wrote this article on the Bible, but I don't know how complete it is.
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Alright wow, found an awesome program that will h264 it without any problems w/ full quality. Went from 200mb to 9mb. Noice.

Here's the differences. Notice how v5 is smoother and the character does not have any jittering/other problems. But on v6 its a bit choppy and the characters jitter for some reason. Full screen both to see it clearly. It becomes most obvious when you're moving with a frame of a gani. In this case I used sit (hold shift+v while walking on UN).

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Alright wow, found an awesome program that will h264 it without any problems w/ full quality. Went from 200mb to 9mb. Noice.

Here's the differences. Notice how v5 is smoother and the character does not have any jittering/other problems. But on v6 its a bit choppy and the characters jitter for some reason. Full screen both to see it clearly. It becomes most obvious when you're moving with a frame of a gani. In this case I used sit (hold shift+v while walking on UN).

v5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fERwSyyPK8&hd=1

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Td3j2mE2D4&hd=1
I'm not sure if it's the whole client, the whole player gani, or just the head sprite - but there is definitely some timing issues there. What program @ videos?
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I'm not sure if it's the whole client, the whole player gani, or just the head sprite - but there is definitely some timing issues there. What program @ videos?
Something called "SUPER". Should be the first google result if you search "download SUPER". It happens on other servers too and other ganis.
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Alright wow, found an awesome program that will h264 it without any problems w/ full quality. Went from 200mb to 9mb. Noice.

Here's the differences. Notice how v5 is smoother and the character does not have any jittering/other problems. But on v6 its a bit choppy and the characters jitter for some reason. Full screen both to see it clearly. It becomes most obvious when you're moving with a frame of a gani. In this case I used sit (hold shift+v while walking on UN).

v5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fERwSyyPK8&hd=1

v6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Td3j2mE2D4&hd=1
Tested on Valikorlia for fun and it happens there too. Gonna do Zone/GK and keep going until it's fixed I guess. Gives me an excuse to log onto servers I never touch anymore. Full screen both, etc etc.

v5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDSEWzuDi6A&hd=1

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Tested on Valikorlia for fun and it happens there too. Gonna do Zone/GK and keep going until it's fixed I guess. Gives me an excuse to log onto servers I never touch anymore. Full screen both, etc etc.

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Does Valikorlia have a scripted movement system? I haven't noticed this on Era so I'm guessing it's a problem with default movement.
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I haven't logged on Era, but it happens on Classic and that is using a scripted movement system.
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I'd like to confirm that I've also seen similar stuff happen with the different sprites in the gani being moved separately (and jittering).

Perhaps this has something to do with the crazy floating point issues v6 has where it introduces arbitrary decimals out of nowhere?
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no vimes, it happens on era as well.

v5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HY4nUxLsdIg&hd=1

v6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om2-GQNl7w8&hd=1

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happening on GK:

v5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jcw6V0R2iHE&hd=1

v6:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4HYVQGtuR4&hd=1

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Is there anyway to participate in the beta still? I pmed Skyld ~week ago, and received no response. I'm actively developing on a server, so it'd be nice to be able to test out the new version.
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There's still two very big flaws with V6, that I feel need to be dealt with before an open beta:

- Timeouts/Schedule Events that loop every 0.05 slowing down to 0.01~ over time
- The 2pt (estimating) increase in font size, if this isn't changed to match the Windows V5 client, then quite a few GUIs will need to be redone to look proper.
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