Perhaps...

Sinkler · #1 07-27-2008, 07:06 PM

Perhaps Era can steal Zodaic's idea. Let's say people can get like 200K and they can buy a guild take for 10 people, and then 50k more for 5 more spots.
I just think it'll stop this stupid party system and add a little more interesting things to Era instead of just friends of the staff to get gangs.
Thoughts?

mYg0tHaMpStEr · #2 07-27-2008, 07:16 PM

Haha.

Sinkler · #3 07-27-2008, 07:24 PM

Hey, it'll stop people's complaining and make it interesting. But you have to have ten people support you or it's deleted.
Make it like you lead a group in a thing and they have to join that group. Sort of like Pokemon on the DS, you have to have one leader of the group and atleast a follower, so ten followers :O

Tracker180 · #4 07-27-2008, 07:33 PM

who's complaining? I never see anyone complain, and besides, the party system's not stupid

Sinkler · #5 07-27-2008, 07:36 PM

The party system is useless. People use partys ALL the time and it's annoying.

Crow · #6 07-27-2008, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinkler

The party system is useless. People use partys ALL the time and it's annoying.

That just shows it's not useless. If you don't like parties or find them annoying, don't use them. The party system is very important to Era.

Sinkler · #7 07-27-2008, 08:11 PM

But the guild system could help stop people running around with parties saying "Party F*** Yeah!"

cbk1994 · #8 07-27-2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinkler

But the guild system could help stop people running around with parties saying "Party F*** Yeah!"

What's wrong with that?

Sinkler · #9 07-27-2008, 08:15 PM

It shows Era's stupidity and lack of good behaviour.

cbk1994 · #10 07-27-2008, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinkler

It shows Era's stupidity and lack of good behaviour.

And guilds solve this how?

Understood · #11 07-27-2008, 10:06 PM

Parties are fun, and everyone uses them, but they take away from gang activity. . .and the crappiness of gangs is really killing the server.

Sinkler · #12 07-27-2008, 10:14 PM

I concur with Understood. But think of it like this, we have more gang activity AND we get people who lead their own guilds. NO parties, as Understood clearly said, they hurt gang activity. Instead people will run around trying to get 200K AND also being apart of the gang which raises gang activities.

Frankie · #13 07-27-2008, 11:36 PM

Ruben (I know him irl, aka Nuada) is not biased at all. Stop making stupid ****ing assumptions that you "have 2 b staff friendz" to get a gang.

TSAdmin · #14 07-28-2008, 01:11 AM

This is a bad idea when you think about it the way you are.

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Originally Posted by Understoood

Parties are fun, and everyone uses them, but they take away from gang activity. . .and the crappiness of gangs is really killing the server.

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Originally Posted by Sinkler

I concur with Understood. But think of it like this, we have more gang activity AND we get people who lead their own guilds. NO parties, as Understood clearly said, they hurt gang activity. Instead people will run around trying to get 200K AND also being apart of the gang which raises gang activities.

Parties are basically a guild, too. The difference is: There's actually a member limit. A single guild would hurt gangs a whole lot more than a single party ever could.

Sinkler · #15 07-28-2008, 01:28 AM

Perhaps it is a stupid assumption, Frankie. But, then people will stop making these stupid assumptions when they can have their own guilds.

Crow · #16 07-28-2008, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinkler

Perhaps it is a stupid assumption, Frankie. But, then people will stop making these stupid assumptions when they can have their own guilds.

Haha, no, I doubt it, and it wouldn't be worth it anyway.

Sinkler · #17 07-28-2008, 11:22 AM

Explain why it couldn't be worth it?

Crow · #18 07-28-2008, 02:12 PM

Introducing a system to Era that doesn't even fit Era to reduce stupid assumptions? That doesn't sound like it's worth it.

Sinkler · #19 07-28-2008, 03:12 PM

Besdies the stupid assumptions, Crow, we won't have idiots running around doing useless things. Instead, we will have a little more self-controlled behaviour about the assumption since people now HAVE a chance at getting a guild, instead of giving it to people who either are friends with Staff, or have done something else. Now I don't want to make assumptions about any staff member, but why have so many people who have had good gang ideas get denied?

Crow · #20 07-28-2008, 03:17 PM

There currently is a good gang idea/gang system idea, made up by Demisis, and I'm basically already done with coding the systems to this. Though the plans are/were to release this after reset, I don't even know if Demisis still wants to use that, and it's not completely done since I've been focusing on other things.

Sinkler · #21 07-28-2008, 03:23 PM

I see. But here's what I think, if we use my idea, it could perhaps stop a lot of the Erian stereo-types that other people see. We're known to have an attitude, and TSAdmin has admitted that. I think that these guilds could actually benefit the economy because people ARE working and paying for it. They would of course also have to create a base if they want a gang base.

Demisis_P2P · #22 07-28-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow

There currently is a good gang idea/gang system idea, made up by Demisis, and I'm basically already done with coding the systems to this. Though the plans are/were to release this after reset, I don't even know if Demisis still wants to use that, and it's not completely done since I've been focusing on other things.

I think Andy said he is going to finish it...maybe. I'm still planning on using it.

Crow · #23 07-28-2008, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

I think Andy said he is going to finish it...maybe. I'm still planning on using it.

Nah, I will do that. Only one thing left, expect me soonish.

Frankie · #24 07-28-2008, 05:28 PM

yeah well you have to wait 2 weeks before the server is put back up.

Crow · #25 07-28-2008, 05:32 PM

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yeah well you have to wait 2 weeks before the server is put back up.

Most likely, yea. But I don't have a problem with that, you know I didn't do anything for something around a month now ;P

Understood · #26 07-28-2008, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinkler

I concur with Understood. But think of it like this, we have more gang activity AND we get people who lead their own guilds. NO parties, as Understood clearly said, they hurt gang activity. Instead people will run around trying to get 200K AND also being apart of the gang which raises gang activities.

Don't manipulate what I said to make it sound like I was supporting your idea...I think your idea is horrible, and people should not be able to buy a gang. Think back to Jenn's Era with the "street gangs" and how horrible every single one of them turned out. Gangs need leaders, not millionaires. I agree that people should be able to form their own gangs, especially through gathering support, but I totally disagree on giving them a pricetag.

As for parties, they are just something easy that any random person can put together and have fun with. It's how much of an impact they have on Era (party bases such as EM, being allowed to raid gangs, etc) is what I feel is killing gangs. A lot of people are spending more time on their party tag than with their gang.

Sinkler · #27 07-28-2008, 08:14 PM

I want to DESTROY the Party tag and put in a Guild system.
This is the only way to stop people complaining, and make it fair. Is it fair staff can have gangs? Is it fair Ramsfan gets a second chance? Buying guilds will make people work for them and show that it's not your friends who get them. A 10 person support system will also make it a full gang. No less than 10 people in a guild. If there is 9 people after the 10 supporters created it, then it disbands and there is no refund.

Crow · #28 07-28-2008, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinkler

I want to DESTROY the Party tag and put in a Guild system.
This is the only way to stop people complaining, and make it fair. Is it fair staff can have gangs? Is it fair Ramsfan gets a second chance? Buying guilds will make people work for them and show that it's not your friends who get them. A 10 person support system will also make it a full gang. No less than 10 people in a guild. If there is 9 people after the 10 supporters created it, then it disbands and there is no refund.

Demisis' gang idea is available to the public somewhere, most likely the Era forums. Go look it up and stop trying to enforce crappy ideas please.

Frankie · #29 07-28-2008, 08:19 PM

just because people complain doesn't mean they should get what they want.

DustyPorViva · #30 07-28-2008, 08:22 PM

Perhaps in order to start a gang you should have to do a long series of 'missions' that involve your group(newbie gang). Involving bullying businesses, and perhaps for a final mission, overtaking a current gang in a gang war of sorts.

All, of course, monitored and not strictly automatic.

Oh, and guild territory and influence in their territory would be awesome.

Crow · #31 07-28-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Oh, and guild territory and influence in their territory would be awesome.

I love that gang territory stuff, loved it in GTA:SA, too, but I think Graal's playerbase is not big enough to add something like that :/

Sinkler · #32 07-28-2008, 09:15 PM

But hey, it's okay for staff to get a gang right? And for crappy gang leaders to run gangs. So, Crow, why not enforce better gang leaders? Then we wouldn't be talking here would we?

Crow · #33 07-28-2008, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinkler

But hey, it's okay for staff to get a gang right? And for crappy gang leaders to run gangs. So, Crow, why not enforce better gang leaders? Then we wouldn't be talking here would we?

I'm trying to point in that direction, the new gang system kinda fixes the problems you have mentioned >.<

Sinkler · #34 07-28-2008, 09:24 PM

Does it get rid of the stupid Party System?
It makes us look bad :/

Crow · #35 07-28-2008, 09:25 PM

No it doesn't, and no it doesn't. The party system is an important part of Era, like I said before.

cbk1994 · #36 07-28-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Sinkler

Does it get rid of the stupid Party System?
It makes us look bad :/

Your logic is seriously screwed up.

TSAdmin · #37 07-29-2008, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sinkler

But hey, it's okay for staff to get a gang right? And for crappy gang leaders to run gangs. So, Crow, why not enforce better gang leaders? Then we wouldn't be talking here would we?

You started this thread, and it's appearing more of you demanding that your idea will even work, that's the only reason we're talking here - People are trying to tell you why your idea won't make any difference and it's flaws.

Having some noob with money buy a guild and gaining 10 other noobs support just to get it up and going doesn't mean that the noob who created the Guild is any more of a leader than the current gang leaders, no matter who they are, so comparing someone who has the money to lead a guild with someone who leads a gang, today, is in no way the best method to make your point. If anything, it's disproving your own point along with everyone else in here.

Anyone can buy a guild. Could you imagine that Zach kid buying a guild? He has the money for it, but he is in no way able to lead it. He'll buy it anyway. It just means there'll be 10 of them, eventually, so it's better off just having his noob limit to himself + 4 in a PARTY.
Or the other end of the scale: Wil Soul. Has the money to buy it, and lead it for 2 weeks before gang hopping.

I probably sounded like I went in circles there, but I just woke up, so yeah lol

DarknessShadow · #38 07-29-2008, 12:35 AM

No need to point out real players,It could be insulting to them.

Crow · #39 07-29-2008, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DarknessShadow

No need to point out real players,It could be insulting to them.

Heh, hardly. Wil has proven he fails to lead a gang when he had one.

TSAdmin · #40 07-29-2008, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DarknessShadow

No need to point out real players,It could be insulting to them.

I talk to Zach here and there when I need to, and he didn't mind that I wanted to use him as an example. He knows that he would just lead something like "Raptor" or whatever that thing he made up only for the fact that he could afford to, not because he could lead it.