Dragonhide gloves poll

[ViperZakuto]

thank you Fenix =D.

Another point I have. When Jagen and Lance were running GK. They listen to the players and decided what needs to be done. They didn't ignore it and say "this is what needs to be done". Once they left staff stopped listening to the players almost altogether. Thats when the playercount started at it's downfall.

They may have been corrupt here and there... but at least they made Cyberjoures or whatever money, and didn't chase it's customers away.

[Sheen_the_mage]

Can someone explain to me why the current manager has been idling for 4+ years to fix stuff and implement small changes?
Adding +1 ac to a stupid pair of gloves or making aengus bow usable along with implementing ogma bracers isn't a "WTF OMG Z0MZERS IMP0SSIBLE" job.
It shouldn't take 4+ years for small things like that.
Its the least that could be implemented while we are waiting for stuff which wont be avalible for awhile.

[MajinDragon]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

This idea rocks. 40-50 EC's is a bit much I would say 30-35 EC's each.

An item which beats Bakers and Marks completely should be worth atleast 40-50ec's, and thats actually me being a bit generous, i would rather have them as rares released like the rest of the dragon items (rdaf/bdaf...)

Originally Posted by FenixTheBanished

Concerning the fact that Dragonhide should have AC I agree. If youre going to call them dragonhides then they need to add some type of armor because mythically, Dragons scales and skin is almost impentrable, therefore just in the name alone it goes well. Asking to have +1ac isnt that much you guys, just do it. And the staff NEED to listen to the players. Why? Because we're the ones playing and if we are asking something reasonable then it needs to get done, typically we dont ask much. Thats my 2c neways. Oh and the reason why most people dont like eachother is because theres not enough people to call friends, acquaintences, and then enemies. You need a larger player count to have that. Personally I only dislike one person and just the people who are Trials in general because they dont pay for the game like we do. neways. Add +1ac. In the event that I won Amadola theres a HUGE gap inbetween the value of the two items from 1st place to 2nd. I think it needs to be addressed.

Yes, dragon hides are said to be extremely tough, however, we cannot just update an item that has already been released and out for quite a long time, just because of it's name. The update would change it's value from the current 340-400dias to over 800 (if they change the ec costs aswell). It's better to keep the current dragonhide gloves as they are, and create new, coloured dragonhide gloves, which fall into the dragon colour themed items and be made collectable rares or highly sought after ec items.

So what if there's a huge gap in the prize values? Raven didn't HAVE to give 2nd prize, it's not a bad 2nd prize anyway. Amadola, in my eyes, isn't worth that much, it's looks aren't great and it's stats are hardly sought after, so the only thing keeping it valuable is it's rarity, which could change depending on future event releases.

Staff don't NEED to listen to players requests, because players minds are corrupted, the very reason this dragonhide discussion has started is because Xaphan is being greedy, he wants more, a better prize.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

thank you Fenix =D.

Another point I have. When Jagen and Lance were running GK. They listen to the players and decided what needs to be done. They didn't ignore it and say "this is what needs to be done". Once they left staff stopped listening to the players almost altogether. Thats when the playercount started at it's downfall.

They may have been corrupt here and there... but at least they made Cyberjoures or whatever money, and didn't chase it's customers away.

They listen to the players and decided what needs to be done.
Who says the players aren't being listened to? They are being listened to and things are being decided. I think the gloves don't need an additional ac+1 to the stats, period. You don't have any idea why the playercount fell, and I guarantee you it's not because players stopped being listened to. Jagen and Lance didn't even listen to the players, they would consider their ideas and if they were good they MAY or MAY NOT act upon them, but they surely didn't listen to the players. The ideas posted are still being considered. Just because there is a bad idea that is going to be ignored doesn't mean that the players aren't being listened to.

Originally Posted by Sheen_the_mage

Can someone explain to me why the current manager has been idling for 4+ years to fix stuff and implement small changes?
Adding +1 ac to a stupid pair of gloves or making aengus bow usable along with implementing ogma bracers isn't a "WTF OMG Z0MZERS IMP0SSIBLE" job.
It shouldn't take 4+ years for small things like that.
Its the least that could be implemented while we are waiting for stuff which wont be avalible for awhile.

Who says the current manager has been idling for 4+ years? Things have been completed, and if it is so easy to work on GK, why don't you do it, keep in mind: it's volunteer and you have to actually have good work.
Who said that adding +1 ac to a 'stupid pair of gloves' or 'making aengus bow usable' was a "WTF OMG Z0MGZERS IMP0SSIBLE job"? No one. It's a matter of considering the idea, and deciding AGAINST it. It's not because the developers of GK are incapable of doing it.

You guys do not understand why things are not being accomplished like adding ac+1 to gloves or releasing an Aengus bow. There are many things that have to be taken in to consideration before such things are done. If GKs development team just listened and acted upon every idea suggested GK would be out of hand, even more so than it already is. So here is my suggestion to you: Stop thinking that you know what's best for GK, because you don't.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

Dex +2 is a lot more than speed +1 in itself.(look at MSoG) How does that make them not much better than archers? They totally suck. Look at speed ammy, It totally kicks the ass of Dragonhides... but speed ammy is 5 EC's cheaper. With the stats it has now it should cost around 8-10 EC's literally.

And RoT blows away MSoG, Speed Amulet AND Dragonhides. Comparing Dragonhides to different types of equipment that have similar stats isn't a good comparison, because you're "giving up" different things. If you wear a speed amulet, you're giving up being able to wear demon stone (at least while you're wearing the speed amulet). Dragonhides' stats would be dismal if they were on a ring or an amulet, because by wearing that ring/amulet you lose the ability to wear better rings/amulets. Since gloves generally have low stats, Dragonhides' stats are actually not bad.

[ViperZakuto]

yeah but how many gloves have ac?

[Googi]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

yeah but how many gloves have ac?

3, but for two of them there's only 1 or 2 left on the server.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Googi

3, but for two of them there's only 1 or 2 left on the server.

bakers havoks bandits?

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by BigBear3

bakers havoks bandits?

Gloves of the Giant also have ac+1

[Ravenblade1979]

I still don't see why people can't be happy with prizes they get. There are good ones and bad ones (items) on the server. You can't fight it or have the stats changed to suit your needs. So what no one will buy them. Store them or something. Someone will eventually come along who wants them.

@Tig: just had to post this.

"An economy is the system of human activities related to the production, distribution, exchange, and consumption of goods and services of a country or other area."

[ViperZakuto]

Don't listen to the people and piss everybodyt off like you guys always do. Then you will see the playercount drop even more x.x

Everybody probably didn't leave cause they were pissed. But I know quite a few people who lost interest and left because they were not listened to. Nobody pays attention to GK anymore.

The people 2-3 people who get paid to keep gk alive should. That is Stefan, Unix, and Bjorn... Stefan has been doing his job a little. But to my knowlege Unix and Bjorn Does crap, but work on G3d. If they are actually doing stuff, they should post on forums like Stefan Does.

[BigBear3]

Why should Dragonhide Gloves be changed? So Xaphan could make a bit more money off of them? I could say change the stats of my Zormite Shield or anybody could say about any item they own. The items are the way they are because somebody thought they were fit to be. Let it go.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

Don't listen to the people and piss everybodyt off like you guys always do. Then you will see the playercount drop even more x.x

Everybody probably didn't leave cause they were pissed. But I know quite a few people who lost interest and left because they were not listened to. Nobody pays attention to GK anymore.

Really? Perhaps you can list a few?

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

The people 2-3 people who get paid to keep gk alive should. That is Stefan, Unix, and Bjorn... Stefan has been doing his job a little. But to my knowlege Unix and Bjorn Does crap, but work on G3d. If they are actually doing stuff, they should post on forums like Stefan Does.

I'm not sure, but I'm fairly positive that Björn doesn't get paid. Quit making up lies, Unixmad as well as Stefan are both very busy doing other things like developing the actual game and website. Do you even know who unixmad is? How can you sit there and say that Björn and Unixmad do crap for the server, except they work on G3D? UNIXMAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. Not only that, but it's not unixmad's job to work on GK, it is his job to manage GraalOnline. You sir, should get your facts straight and stop pulling them right out of your butt, because if you don't stop, that's right where my foot will be.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Tigairius

Really? Perhaps you can list a few?


I'm not sure, but I'm fairly positive that Björn doesn't get paid. Quit making up lies, Unixmad as well as Stefan are both very busy doing other things like developing the actual game and website. Do you even know who unixmad is? How can you sit there and say that Björn and Unixmad do crap for the server, except they work on G3D? UNIXMAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS. Not only that, but it's not unixmad's job to work on GK, it is his job to manage GraalOnline. You sir, should get your facts straight and stop pulling them right out of your butt, because if you don't stop, that's right where my foot will be.

Tig's right and left legs are named Law and Order.

[Ravenblade1979]

Look why should stats be changed on something just so a few people can sell the item for more. I could see if it was a common item.

@Viper: we dont try to piss people off but the staff can't always be changing stats to accomidate a few people.

[ViperZakuto]

alright I resign from FAQ. See you all later.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

alright I resign from FAQ. See you all later.

Just because you don't get your way? That's kind of sad, oh well. It was nice having you on the team.
Kind of funny that your application said:

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

Why I should be FAQ:
I may not know every single little detail there is to know about graal... but i am very resourseful and willing to learn. I have also helped alot of people on this server. I think I have the patients to help this server survive. I also posted what it takes to make craftable items, so I am willing to do a dirty job, if it needs done.

Seems like that goes against every way you just acted.

[ViperZakuto]

I did have patience. but gk keeps hiring people that let ther knowlege override there commen sense.

[Ravenblade1979]

off topic in here.

[Googi]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

but gk keeps hiring people that let ther knowlege override there commen sense.

I've heard of this common sense, sounds awesome, can say whatever I want about whatever I want and I don't have to back it up because it's "common sense", etc.

[ViperZakuto]

Originally Posted by Googi

I've heard of this common sense, sounds awesome, can say whatever I want about whatever I want and I don't have to back it up because it's "common sense", etc.

apparently cause you have none. I passed Micro and Macroeconomics. But you have to add in the commen sense. With no common sense the smartest of people fail... look at gk. Lance and Jagen had enough common sense to keep the server alive....

[Googi]

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

apparently cause you have none. I passed Micro and Macroeconomics.

I don't care what you passed. I care whether or not what you say is true.

Originally Posted by ViperZakuto

Lance and Jagen had enough common sense to keep the server alive...

I can assure you that Lance and Jagen feel the same way as I do about "common sense".