Congratulations Hell Raven

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Twinny

Yes I know. How long until he is redeemed in your eyes? I don't feel like getting into one of your "I've already won" arguments but just leave your discrediting crap out of this. The admins know of Kristi's past yet they have accepted him. You should too.

Yes, because if it's not praise then you shouldn't have an opinion, right?


Because I'm sure we'd want Jellyfish with a global RC, right?


Why do you think jobs do background checks on applicants? You think they want criminals in their workforce?


Clearly he's changed, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have it in him to do it again if he's already done it.


The admins probably don't know about his past, and you know what, it doesn't really matter to me if they do or not. They've been wrong before.



He'll change in my eyes once he's earned it. We'll just see how he is as a member of the GST.

[Kristi]

Originally Posted by Gambet

You don't act like what he did never happened. He was well involved with anti graal affairs FYI.

I was never associated with antigraal (which at the time would be viper and the sg111 soundoff). I was always absolutely against any harmful attacks on graal, and personally rallied against viper with my peers trying to convince people to stop the ddos attacks. I enjoy graal, and always have. Anything I did made people laugh and was far from distructive. I was just going to ignore this complete argument but please do not taint me with an antigraal title.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Kristi

I was never associated with antigraal (which at the time would be viper and the sg111 soundoff). I was always absolutely against any harmful attacks on graal, and personally rallied against viper with my peers trying to convince people to stop the ddos attacks. I enjoy graal, and always have. Anything I did made people laugh and was far from distructive. I was just going to ignore this complete argument but please do not taint me with an antigraal title.

I wasn't referring to the anti unixmad crap or anything of the sort. Was just referring to the fact that you don't exactly have a clean history on your shoulders, which sadly for you is what people will remember you for.


I'm not the only one in this thread that has mentioned it, and I don't think I was the first either. You'll have to go the extra margin to change peoples perceptions of you for the better.

[Twinny]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Yes, because if it's not praise then you shouldn't have an opinion, right?

Because I'm sure we'd want Jellyfish with a global RC, right?

Why do you think jobs do background checks on applicants? You think they want criminals in their workforce?

Clearly he's changed, but it doesn't mean he doesn't have it in him to do it again if he's already done it.

The admins probably don't know about his past, and you know what, it doesn't really matter to me if they do or not. They've been wrong before.

He'll change in my eyes once he's earned it. We'll just see how he is as a member of the GST.

If you have your doubts then take it to a pm to Skyld, Stefan or Kristi himself. Last I knew, all hiring and background checks are performed by the admins.

Also, comparing Kristi to Jellyfish is insultive.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Twinny

Also, comparing Kristi to Jellyfish is insultive.

I wasn't comparing Jellyfish with anyone, I was just giving an example. Hell Raven is nowhere near Jellyfish and what he did, let's not even go there.

[Kristi]

Originally Posted by Gambet

I wasn't referring to the anti unixmad crap or anything of the sort. Was just referring to the fact that you don't exactly have a clean history on your shoulders, which sadly for you is what people will remember you for.


I'm not the only one in this thread that has mentioned it, and I don't think I was the first either.

Hmm, okay. 9 years on graal, maybe the first 3-4 with a bad history, starting when i was 13 years old. In that time period I graduated middle school, graduated college, got a job. Moved to boston, do grad work at Harvard Medical in a Mass Spectrometry lab joint with MIT, etc etc. I've had ultimate access to the top servers at this moment for a while now (Classic, UN, Zodiac, etc), and they are all still here and fine, and the only thing I have done is help them. It is fair to say in these years I have grown and matured from my middle school antics.

I didn't ask for this, Skyld and it seems many of these other supporters seem I am right for this job. I am thankful and enjoy the honor, because I enjoy helping people out.

So you got your point out, for whatever reason you desired to, that I had a mischievous past. It has been adknowledged. There is no reason to argue about it anymore.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Kristi

Hmm, okay. 9 years on graal, maybe the first 3-4 with a bad history, starting when i was 13 years old. In that time period I graduated middle school, graduated college, got a job. Moved to boston, do grad work at Harvard Medical in a Mass Spectrometry lab joint with MIT, etc etc. I've had ultimate access to the top servers at this moment for a while now (Classic, UN, Zodiac, etc), and they are all still here and fine, and the only thing I have done is help them. It is fair to say in these years I have grown and matured from my middle school antics.

I didn't ask for this, Skyld and it seems many of these other supporters seem I am right for this job. I am thankful and enjoy the honor, because I enjoy helping people out.

If you were smart enough to do what you did, you'd also be smart enough to know what you were doing was wrong, which clearly you did still do, so the whole age crap is irrelevant.


I'm not saying you havn't changed, I'm just saying that you arn't as known as you actually think you are, and even those that know who you are don't all know you for what you'd want to be remembered for is all.


Do well and change peoples perceptions about you is what I'd suggest. Write new pages in your history book to be remembered by.

[Andy0687]

Originally Posted by Gambet

The admins probably don't know about his past, and you know what, it doesn't really matter to me if they do or not. They've been wrong before.

No im pretty sure everyone is aware, if i remember correctly there was even a thread about things you did in the past.

Besides there has only ever really been one Hell Raven.

[Kristi]

Originally Posted by Gambet

If you were smart enough to do what you did, you'd also be smart enough to know what you were doing was wrong, which clearly you did still do, so the whole age crap is irrelevant.


I'm not saying you havn't changed, I'm just saying that you arn't as known as you actually think you are, and even those that know who you are don't all know you for what you'd want to be remembered for is all.


Do well and change peoples perceptions about you is what I'd suggest. Write new pages in your history book to be remembered by.

I never once stated that I perceived myself as well known, re-read the thread if you wish. However, we can go off the logic that enough people view me in a good light to be hired.

Like i said last post, there is no reason to still argue this. I assume you will post to this because you have to have the last word, so do what you will, I have no intentions of replying to it.

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by Gambet

If you were smart enough to do what you did, you'd also be smart enough to know what you were doing was wrong, which clearly you did still do, so the whole age crap is irrelevant.


I'm not saying you havn't changed, I'm just saying that you arn't as known as you actually think you are, and even those that know who you are don't all know you for what you'd want to be remembered for is all.


Do well and change peoples perceptions about you is what I'd suggest. Write new pages in your history book to be remembered by.

Gambet, stop it. Your concerns do not belong in this thread. I seem to recall making it to congratulate Hell Raven on becoming GST, not anything else.

If you have concerns, you can forum PM me about them but you shall not bring them here.

[TSAdmin]

*quotes every congratulatory post in this thread to save sounding like a broken record*

[DustyPorViva]

Yes, because how hard and well you work is determined by how well you are known.

[Inverness]

Gambet, you seem to be bringing up stuff that nobody cares about at the moment...

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Gambet, you seem to be bringing up stuff that nobody cares about at the moment...

The conversation was dropped already.

[Switch]

GJ 'Hell Raven'

[syltburk]

Congrats.
I want trooper to come back now to angel clan while we're on with the trainer usage!