Why isn't Babylon on the Classic list yet?

[Thallen]

Just curious. No, this is not a question to PWA, more so, to Babylon Administration, though anyone could contribute to this thread. I'm pretty sure the whole slogan was something to do with how Babylon would be coming Classic so soon, this summer, etc., with a few server surges of 100 people every now and then with free NPCs given out as incentive to stay. So what's up?

[Chris]

Good question. Is it still classic enabled?

[Skyld]

I think so.

[Crono]

Am I allowed to tell you why without mods deleting my post? It's a semi-personal issue and last time I posted what happened Malinko requested it be deleted due to "harassment".

:/

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Am I allowed to tell you why without mods deleting my post? It's a semi-personal issue and last time I posted what happened Malinko requested it be deleted due to "harassment".

:/

Then don't post it again.
I think Babylon manager/admins might be perfectly capable of posting a general explination if they want to.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Am I allowed to tell you why without mods deleting my post? It's a semi-personal issue and last time I posted what happened Malinko requested it be deleted due to "harassment".

:/

Post it in a secret code :winky:

[Spark910]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Am I allowed to tell you why without mods deleting my post? It's a semi-personal issue and last time I posted what happened Malinko requested it be deleted due to "harassment".

:/

Just post but dont add opinion to it, should be okay then if its just factual. At least it stands a better chance

[Thallen]

Originally Posted by Spark910

Just post but dont add opinion to it, should be okay then if its just factual. At least it stands a better chance

9,999 posts.

[contiga]

Perhaps they could bring Babylon to the hosted tab, so people can see it's trying to come back, and it might bring some life to the hosted tab again, since Zodiac is gone from it now.

[coreys]

I agree with Babylon on the hosted tab, as it has a good ammount of content and it does still have classic status (unless it's been recently changed :o).

I don't think it will ever be back to it's old greatness, I don't think it should ever be put back on the classic list, cause it's just over and done with. Some bad decisions have brought it down, and it's never coming back up from that, I think.

[calani]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Am I allowed to tell you why without mods deleting my post? It's a semi-personal issue and last time I posted what happened Malinko requested it be deleted due to "harassment".

:/

Funny, I was banned on babylon with a similar story.
I stumbled across my ban history while messing around with the new rc2 and saw this:

Originally Posted by Banhistory

2006-05-07 23:40:48 on Babylon by Malinko:
local ban
Banned for Account Scam
Reason: We don't want calani on Bab, she harasses too much people.

The funny part about this is the fact that Malinko saw me on GK maybe a day prior to banning me on Babylon, and also that I hadn't actually logged on there for over a year and a half.. wasn't evern planning on logging in again, either. So yea, as soon as he knew I was back on Graal he immediately banned me on Babylon.

He's been doing similar things ever since he worked under me as a NAT on Babylon, so I think he has a personal grudge against me as well.


Anyways, back on topic.
Why isn't babylon on the classic list? can't tell 'cause i'm banned 8]
But seriously, does it deserve to be? It takes a very well designed server to be worthy of being classic.
Also, since Zodiac was just added, there likely won't be any more added to the classic tab any time soon.

[WanDaMan]

Calani, I heard that you'd inspected Babylon under the management of Silent. I later got told that you'd passed it and it would be online very soon. I believe this was also labeld in RC SO for a while too - What happend?

[Crono]

Originally Posted by WanDaMan

Calani, I heard that you'd inspected Babylon under the management of Silent. I later got told that you'd passed it and it would be online very soon. I believe this was also labeld in RC SO for a while too - What happend?

Babylon didn't even have proper fixed quests, rofl.

Then don't post it again.

Does it look like I am?

I think Babylon manager/admins might be perfectly capable of posting a general explination if they want to.

You're so ignorant.

[calani]

Originally Posted by WanDaMan

Calani, I heard that you'd inspected Babylon under the management of Silent. I later got told that you'd passed it and it would be online very soon. I believe this was also labeld in RC SO for a while too - What happend?

The only time Babylon was classic-worthy was under Alexander's management (and several other managers before then).
However, since then, there have been servers released with a much higher quality of content; as a result, the expectations of servers striving to achieve classic stature rise accordingly. If Babylon were to apply now as it had been before, it would surely fail.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by calani

However, since then, there have been servers released with a much higher quality of content

LOL THAT IS SUCH A ****ING LIE ROFL

as a result, the expectations of servers striving to achieve classic stature rise accordingly

You're very funny, you should be a stand up comedian. Zodiac is supposed to be some kind of high quality server? Don't make me laugh.

If Babylon were to apply now as it had been before, it would surely fail.

No ****? With these kinds of management problems?

I'll tell you all what happened without getting into illegal against forums opinions. This should remain unedited as it breaks no rule. Don't let the pitty "THIS POST IS HARASSING ME" get in the way, some people use that as a fake shield.

Log on one morning and something is wrong on RC. Malinko aims me and tells me Artanis is cheating on him. When Artanis gets on RC I aim malinko and hes like "are people going crazy?" or something along these lines. I say no and he gets disappointed. The moment Artanis disconnects Lea the following goes through my head.

-Artanis cheats on Malinko
-Malinko mad at Artanis
-Artanis will be fired since they're no longer together
-I will DC Artanis in revenge for dcing Lea
-O**** if I let her get back on my RC is gonna be deleted by Artanis and
Malinko isn't going to be on graal for days (he said so himself).
-I'll have to keep dcing her so she wont mess us all up

So I do this. I DC her over and over again until someone suggests simply banning. Tones and Lea were clear supporters of me and were very pissed off at Artanis.

Malinko then logs on RC tells us to stop, and then while Vulcan (PWA) is there says he is shutting down the server. Everyone is deleted from serverops, rights deleted, and everyone is disconnected. I must say he is damn fast at it too!

Next day I log on and I'm banned. Malinko is not on aim. I aim Tones and Lea and they are also banned. Later on it appears everyone but Tones, Lea, me and maybe 1-2 more people are unbanned. The staff list is back to normal except without us "anti artanis" people. I become highly suscpicious. Here i'd give you my theory on why but it's against the rules as it could classify as harassment.

I try to get a hold of Malinko but impossible. He has my AIM blocked and I'm still banned on Babylon. The reason is irrelevant, it was "ban evasion" lol...

I finally get in contact with Malinko and after a long conversation he simply says something along the lines of "i fired you because I don't want to hurt my friends". The reason for the artanis cheating on malinko thing was because, as he said, "I'm bipolar". So basically what he's trying to say to us is that artanis never cheated on him.

After I was fired, some staff members kept asking Malinko to hire me. They knew without me the server was dead. Shortly after Inferno, a great LAT in my opinion, quit. Tones and Lea were still fired, I believed.

Zanity also got threatned to be fired if he kept asking for me to be re-hired.

What's going to happen to Babylon? You tell me.