Your age!

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Elk

OMg 2 kids who are under 12 o.O
Did they ask their parents to play graal?

Sam is one of them. I bet the other is a lie.

[-Ching]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Sam is one of them. I bet the other is a lie.

The other is probably Darlene, hawhaw

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by -Ching

The other is probably Darlene, hawhaw

Wrong...

[-Ching]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Wrong...

Well we can never be sure, this is the internet afterall

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Wrong...

How do we know?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Sam is one of them. I bet the other is a lie.

Okay, I don't wanna be a killjoy, I've corrected it referring to my vote.

[Felix_Xenophobe]

great. now im the only one under 12.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe

great. now im the only one under 12.

You're born in 1991, meaning you should be around 15...

[excaliber7388]

Anyone under 12 should be kicked out, at least untill they are 12.

[Elk]

yes

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by -Ching

Well we can never be sure, this is the internet afterall

Correct.

Originally Posted by Gerami

How do we know?

You don't.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

You don't.

I know, I was going back to when you said that people can lie about their ages and how you can't be sure of stuff on the net.

For all I know you could be unixmad hiding.

[excaliber7388]

But Graal already bases something on the user's wprd.
When you get an account, you have to verify your age. Now, if the user's word is good enough then, then it should be good enough now. If a person wanted to change the results, they would have gone for the 25+. Lets face it, most people here are older than 18, and graal should recognize that
If you want to see a copy of my drivers licence, I could send it to you

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Gerami

For all I know you could be unixmad hiding.

No, that's impossible.

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

But Graal already bases something on the user's wprd.
When you get an account, you have to verify your age. Now, if the user's word is good enough then, then it should be good enough now. If a person wanted to change the results, they would have gone for the 25+. Lets face it, most people here are older than 18, and graal should recognize that
If you want to see a copy of my drivers licence, I could send it to you

But it doesn't matter at all how old users posting on this forum are.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Sam

No, that's impossible.

How so?

But it doesn't matter at all how old users posting on this forum are.

1) It does matter, which is why the lounge was apparently created...

2) You post using your Graal account which had to agree to that age thing to begin with, right?

3) Some of us are honest.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Gerami

How so?

There are proofs like IP's for example.

Originally Posted by Gerami

1) It does matter, which is why the lounge was apparently created...
2) You post using your Graal account which had to agree to that age thing to begin with, right?
3) Some of us are honest.

Yes, but our forum rules are made not only because of the age of the users. It's also made to beware a immaculate appearance of GraalOnline and Cyberjoueurs.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Sam

There are proofs like IP's for example.

Could be spoofed, could be someone else logging in to make sure the ips change, etc.

It's also made to beware a immaculate appearance of GraalOnline and Cyberjoueurs.

I'm stupid, explain these terms.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Gerami

I'm stupid, explain these terms.

Can't agree, you just a little oblivious:
check this

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Sam

Can't agree, you just a little oblivious:
check this

Let me put this in RC terms.

/find point
Gerami prob: file point not found

I'll just shut up since I don't get it.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Let me put this in RC terms.

/find point
Gerami prob: file point not found

I'll just shut up since I don't get it.

Plain and simple said: The company don't want themes discussed which are not suitable for children under 14 years. And the company gave us more or less precise directions by the rules.

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by Sam

Plain and simple said: The company don't want themes discussed which are not suitable for children under 14 years. And the company gave us more or less precise directions by the rules.

Understandable. However, what do posts about religion, abortion, and many other moral issues have to do with age? How are they not suitable for someone of the age of 14? If someone says something that isn't suitable, delete that post, that is your job as a mod. Instead, threads are always locked.

Using age as a justification for your increased rules would make sense if age actually played a role in most cases. Also, as I said before, how many complaints did you get a few years ago that suggested that rule changes were needed?

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Sam

Plain and simple said: The company don't want themes discussed which are not suitable for children under 14 years. And the company gave us more or less precise directions by the rules.

So make an 18+ Lounge, because most forums goers are 18+

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Mykel

Understandable. However, what do posts about religion, abortion, and many other moral issues have to do with age? How are they not suitable for someone of the age of 14? If someone says something that isn't suitable, delete that post, that is your job as a mod. Instead, threads are always locked.

Using age as a justification for your increased rules would make sense if age actually played a role in most cases. Also, as I said before, how many complaints did you get a few years ago that suggested that rule changes were needed?

This is what Unixmad said:

Originally Posted by Unixmad

• The official forums are focused on Graalonline, our goal is not to provide a general forum to discuss about television or cinema but Graal. Even if it's not our goal to provide such discussion, we have allowed a non graal related forum and a private forum with relaxed rules...

Themes like religion are highly sensitive so its not a theme we should discuss here. This has nothing to do with age but with social issues.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Sam

This is what Unixmad said:



Themes like religion are highly sensitive so its not a theme we should discuss here. This has nothing to do with age but with social issues.

Only one rule was relaxed, the hyperlink rule

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Sam

Plain and simple said: The company don't want themes discussed which are not suitable for children under 14 years. And the company gave us more or less precise directions by the rules.

But you just said age doesn't matter.

[Dinji_Jinto]

13 :o

[Dinji_Jinto]

Besides doesnt it say its okay if your parents say it is?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Gerami

But you just said age doesn't matter.

I meant it doesn't matter how old are the people, using the forums. also if all of us where 25+ the rules wouldn't be changed.

[Dinji_Jinto]

Meh this is one active forum.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Sam

I meant it doesn't matter how old are the people, using the forums. also if all of us where 25+ the rules wouldn't be changed.

No, but I'm willing to bet you wouldn't keep changing them to hurt yourself, and furthur limit the topics that you could discuss.
I still think the best answer is to, instead of changing all of the rules, make an 18+ forum, or change the lounge into that.

[Magadal]

14
And proud of it ;o

[Sam]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

No, but I'm willing to bet you wouldn't keep changing them to hurt yourself, and furthur limit the topics that you could discuss.
I still think the best answer is to, instead of changing all of the rules, make an 18+ forum, or change the lounge into that.

I can't get it why. There are alternative forums to be used for such things. Why must it be the graal forum?

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

No, but I'm willing to bet you wouldn't keep changing them to hurt yourself, and furthur limit the topics that you could discuss.
I still think the best answer is to, instead of changing all of the rules, make an 18+ forum, or change the lounge into that.

There are all kinds of places on the net that you can go to discuss adult topics. These forums are for a game geared towards children, get over it.
There will be no "adult" forum.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

There are all kinds of places on the net that you can go to discuss adult topics. These forums are for a game geared towards children, get over it.
There will be no "adult" forum.

So you believe that graals community should go its sepperate ways?
Wouldnt it be better if we could all stay here?
At least remember the fact that if everyone over 18 left, these forums would be nothing.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

There are all kinds of places on the net that you can go to discuss adult topics.

Wrong, we get treated badly by unixmad for it and graal global staff aren't allowed to go there. Sorry, maybe next time. ^.^

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Gerami

Wrong, we get treated badly by unixmad for it and graal global staff aren't allowed to go there. Sorry, maybe next time. ^.^

Also a good point I'd give you rep if I could :winky:

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

So you believe that graals community should go its sepperate ways?
Wouldnt it be better if we could all stay here?
At least remember the fact that if everyone over 18 left, these forums would be nothing.

Uh, there are different forums for different things, and different communities. This forum is for Graal.

[Googi]

Even if you got an 18+ forum, what would be the point? You could talk about alcohol? There's not much we've ever talked about on that subject anyways. The real freedom you (and I) want is to be able to criticize the rules, administration, staff, etc, and we won't get that simply from some age-restricted forum.

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Dinji_Jinto

Besides doesnt it say its okay if your parents say it is?

I think your wrong there x-x. No proof can be given that your parents agreed to allow you to play and join the community.

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by Googi

Even if you got an 18+ forum, what would be the point? You could talk about alcohol? There's not much we've ever talked about on that subject anyways. The real freedom you (and I) want is to be able to criticize the rules, administration, staff, etc, and we won't get that simply from some age-restricted forum.

Agreed.

Someday the people who run this forum will actually realize that when people criticize them, it doesn't have to be a bad thing. Let people debate over the rules. What is the harm in that?

Have you ever heard of the term "the customer comes first"? You are supposed to listen to what we complain about, not dismiss it as us being disturbances. You are supposed to run this game like professionals. And the forums are no different than the game.

Also, I'd be willing to bet that if you treated us with a little bit of respect, it would be returned. Kaimetsu ran the forums for years, while deleting posts, banning members, and doing all the other supermod duties. However, he is seen in great respect, because he heard people out and let them have their complaints.

What is so hard about that?

I realize that people are going to be immature about things. People are going to say stupid things and take it too far. But as the leaders of the forum, it is foolish to alienate the rest of your clients just because a few people are fools.