Question out of curiosity...

[Googi]

Originally Posted by -Ching

Either that or it's people like you that are in the wrong but dont like being told what to do and will never admit that they're wrong. Being young minded is what it's called.

Obviously it will be deleted if I post about it on the forums. Want me to forum PM you some examples of moderations provably inconsistant with the rules?

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Googi

Obviously it will be deleted if I post about it on the forums. Want me to forum PM you some examples of moderations provably inconsistant with the rules?

Give them to me too, I might like to use them later

[p2p_Sir_Link]

Originally Posted by Gerami

He's not losing much.

Crono just turned this thread into a winner.

[excaliber7388]

There are some things that sould be said here, but I don't feel like being banned.

[Mark Sir Link]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

There are some things that sould be said here, but I don't feel like being banned.

Another illiterate post brought to you by Excaliber.

[Draenin]

He only left out an 'h'.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Draenin

He only left out an 'h'.

Oh no, I have commited a sin! How foolish could I be? A TYPO?!
GOD MAY STRIKE ME DOWN!
Or it could be the fact that my brand new keyboard just lost a key, making it hard to type. Still, very hell worthy

[Darlene159]

I am very disappointed in some of the members of these forums. I mean, I start a thread about a certain thing, and some of you turn it into something else, attack other members, use it as a way to attack me, etc...

This thread was for a specific purpose, which I am not even going to bother to explain again.
I do thank those who actually supplied an answer to the question, and who did not use it as an excuse to flame me, or used someone elses post to flame another member.

[Draenin]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Oh no, I have commited a sin! How foolish could I be? A TYPO?!
GOD MAY STRIKE ME DOWN!
Or it could be the fact that my brand new keyboard just lost a key, making it hard to type. Still, very hell worthy

Uh. Why did you quote me? I'm not the one calling you illiterate.

Originally Posted by Darlene159

I do thank those who actually supplied an answer to the question, and who did not use it as an excuse to flame me, or used someone elses post to flame another member.

No biggie.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Draenin

Uh. Why did you quote me? I'm not the one calling you illiterate.

Sorry, I was using your quote to back me up. Should have made that more clear XD

[ApothiX]

Originally Posted by Gerami

I thought it was an irl thing. o.o

Nah, that was another one of his elaborate lies. Also featured in that lie is the modification of Kara's age. I believe he went around telling people that she is 18 or 19.

Originally Posted by Darlene159

I am very disappointed in some of the members of these forums. I mean, I start a thread about a certain thing, and some of you turn it into something else, attack other members, use it as a way to attack me, etc...

This thread was for a specific purpose, which I am not even going to bother to explain again.
I do thank those who actually supplied an answer to the question, and who did not use it as an excuse to flame me, or used someone elses post to flame another member.

IMO, you asked for it when you made a thread with the topic "y r ppl h8'n on me?!"

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by ApothiX

IMO, you asked for it when you made a thread with the topic "y r ppl h8'n on me?!"

that WAS NOT the question.

[ApothiX]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

that WAS NOT the question.

Originally Posted by Darlene159

After playing and working for Graal for a long period of time, a lot of people have been really negative about me playing Graal because of my age, and the fact that I am a parent in real life. This has been going on since the beginning of my playing Graal, so it is not because of my being an admin on the forums, or being a Manager of a PW.

I am really curious as to why players feel this way, and if there are any other older adults that play that receive the same treatment.

If that wasn't your intention, then don't fill your post with personal pronouns and ask why players are treating you that way. The reason I bolded an underlined the 'and' is because you are signifying that that is additional feedback that you would like from people, and not your main point.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by ApothiX

If that wasn't your intention, then don't fill your post with personal pronouns and ask why players are treating you that way. The reason I bolded an underlined the 'and' is because you are signifying that that is additional feedback that you would like from people, and not your main point.

Pay close attention to the age reference in that post.
I dont want to know why people hate me, I did not ask that.
I asked why some members have a problem with my AGE, or other peoples AGE.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by ApothiX

Nah, that was another one of his elaborate lies. Also featured in that lie is the modification of Kara's age. I believe he went around telling people that she is 18 or 19.

He told me he had a countach :'[

[ApothiX]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Pay close attention to the age reference in that post.
I dont want to know why people hate me, I did not ask that.
I asked why some members have a problem with my AGE, or other peoples AGE.

You are still asking why people hate you. You are just specifying criteria that they have to follow. (wow, a reason they dislike you right in the post asking why!)

[Chicken_l33t]

I realize that there are people who dislike me for other reason, but that is not the purpose of this particular thread.
The purpose of this thread is to see why players seem to dislike when older adults/parents play Graal, why they harrass them for their age, and so on.
If I am disliked for other reasons, then you have no reason to post in this particular thread.

lol you shutup I have every right to post here. Why? Cause I damn well feel like it. You see there's others that are more off topic then me here yet you come to me first because it was directed at you.

Perhaps they think all old people act like you act and that's why they don't like you. Perhaps it's because they come on the internet/games to get away from adults and escape reality and you bring back some sense of it back into the game?

[Eagle]

Darlene, I think people use your age as an excuse to let you know about other reasons why they dislike you. I highly doubt it is solely because you're older than everybody else. So yeah, I agree with the people who said things like that.

Houdini, I also doubt people hate you for age, but rather how you act in-game.

Also, Darlene, didn't you have a daughter that played Graal (Princess-something)? Just wondering.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Chicken_l33t

lol you shutup I have every right to post here. Why? Cause I damn well feel like it. You see there's others that are more off topic then me here yet you come to me first because it was directed at you.

*Shakes head*

Perhaps they think all old people act like you act and that's why they don't like you. Perhaps it's because they come on the internet/games to get away from adults and escape reality and you bring back some sense of it back into the game?

Thank you for finally giving an opinion on the actual subject.

Originally Posted by Eagle

Darlene, I think people use your age as an excuse to let you know about other reasons why they dislike you. I highly doubt it is solely because you're older than everybody else. So yeah, I agree with the people who said things like that.

That might be true now, but what about when I first started playing? It was worse when I first started.

Also, Darlene, didn't you have a daughter that played Graal (Princess-something)? Just wondering.

Yes, she doesn't play anymore.

[konidias]

I think it pretty much has to do with younger people wanting to feel like they are the majority and that they are doing something exclusively. If the game is AIMED at young teenagers then the young teenagers will usually be the majority, and when this happens, they will look differently at older AND younger people playing the game.

I don't think it's an "I'm trying to escape my parents" thing. It's more of an "older people already have so many exclusive things that we're not allowed to do" thing.

Younger teenagers can't legally buy cigarettes or alcohol, drive a car, go to bars, go to an R rated movie without a guardian, get a good job, etc etc etc... The list is a long one. So they feel threatened when an adult is playing on a game where they are the majority. Like "you don't belong here, go raise a family or watch an R rated movie". lol... That's just my spin on things.

Back when I was like 18-19 I was playing Gunbound and someone who was like 15 said I was too old to be playing. I'm like... uhhh the game worms was out before you were even born! lol

[excaliber7388]

Yes, she doesn't play anymore.

Whoah!
Hey, hey, hey!
Isn't it your duty to recruit and get these kids addicted?

Anyway, the reason it has gotten better for you is that people have gotten used to it, and in game, you're not 'in the way' of them living in their own little, adult-free, world.
Now as for the forums
I'm willing to bet more people on these forums get mad at you not because of your age, but how you show it. Not in the way you admit your age, but how you act like the people here are less worthy/mature. Basically, it's a big no-no to treat teenagers and young adults like kids.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by konidias

I think it pretty much has to do with younger people wanting to feel like they are the majority and that they are doing something exclusively. If the game is AIMED at young teenagers then the young teenagers will usually be the majority, and when this happens, they will look differently at older AND younger people playing the game.

I don't think it's an "I'm trying to escape my parents" thing. It's more of an "older people already have so many exclusive things that we're not allowed to do" thing.

Younger teenagers can't legally buy cigarettes or alcohol, drive a car, go to bars, go to an R rated movie without a guardian, get a good job, etc etc etc... The list is a long one. So they feel threatened when an adult is playing on a game where they are the majority. Like "you don't belong here, go raise a family or watch an R rated movie". lol... That's just my spin on things.

Back when I was like 18-19 I was playing Gunbound and someone who was like 15 said I was too old to be playing. I'm like... uhhh the game worms was out before you were even born! lol

I can agree with that, and completely understand it.

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Whoah!
Hey, hey, hey!
Isn't it your duty to recruit and get these kids addicted?

No.

Anyway, the reason it has gotten better for you is that people have gotten used to it, and in game, you're not 'in the way' of them living in their own little, adult-free, world.

You don't think that just maybe I have earned respect from some?

Now as for the forums
I'm willing to bet more people on these forums get mad at you not because of your age, but how you show it. Not in the way you admit your age, but how you act like the people here are less worthy/mature. Basically, it's a big no-no to treat teenagers and young adults like kids.

This thread isn't about the forums. Has absolutely nothing at all to do with the forums.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

After playing and working for Graal for a long period of time, a lot of people have been really negative about me playing Graal because of my age, and the fact that I am a parent in real life. This has been going on since the beginning of my playing Graal, so it is not because of my being an admin on the forums, or being a Manager of a PW.

Originally Posted by Daralene159

Has absolutely nothing at all to do with the forums.

Where did I get that idea?!

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

Where did I get that idea?!

Wow, did you read that whole sentence?

Originally Posted by Darlene159

This has been going on since the beginning of my playing Graal, so it is not because of my being an admin on the forums, or being a Manager of a PW.

[excaliber7388]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Wow, did you read that whole sentence?

And I can't comment on something you mentioned?
And you don't feel as if it's worse here than in game?

[Sam]

First of all: when is someone an "older" player?
If we make a cut by reaching the 18th birthday (the age people in europe official count as adult), we have approximately 50% older players.
If you say older starts above the age of 21, we have ~ 30% older players.
And if you assume old starts with being 30, we will have portion less then 10%.

Playing games are not age-dependent. Games are a ample area: soccer is also a game as all kind of card games, roulette and so on.
So universal say: playing isn't something for older people is wrong.
As we all know Stefan created this game and he also played AND plays it.
He and Unixmad also play other games (e.g. Mario cart).
I know many other persons playing graal or games similar to graal.
Many younger players which like to play with older ones and reverse.
Problems begin when adults have a staff position and younger players get punished or rebuked by them.
Younger player can handle it better, if it's not an old player, like their parents are.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

And I can't comment on something you mentioned?
And you don't feel as if it's worse here than in game?

Comment all you want, I just wont take what you post into consideration.
I'm not going to answer your question, because it isn't what this thread is about (broken record.......................again)

Originally Posted by Sam

First of all: when is someone an "older" player?
If we make a cut by reaching the 18th birthday (the age people in europe official count as adult), we have approximately 50% older players.
If you say older starts above the age of 21, we have ~ 30% older players.
And if you assume old starts with being 30, we will have portion less then 10%.

I am referring to the above 30 catagory.

As we all know Stefan created this game and he also played AND plays it.

I am sure people will say "Stefan has to play it to make sure what he does works right!!"

Problems begin when adults have a staff position and younger players get punished or rebuked by them.
Younger player can handle it better, if it's not an old player, like their parents are.

I agree that more problems begin if an older adult becomes staff, but I was more referring to the age bashing which I recieved the very first time I signed onto Graal to present day.

I don't get it so much anymore from people who know me, and are used to me on Graal. Mostly, I get it when I go to a server where people don't know me well, or at all. They see my age, and immediately start telling me to get a life, and so on.

[excaliber7388]

So, do you ever hove conversations in real life? You know, sometimes they stray off topic slightly, but what they say still has something to do with the topic. What, do you close other firends mouths when they start to go off topic?
I doubt many people see a problem with you playing graal, and I've provided a response to your question.

[Infernix]

Well I read the original post and I guess Ill answer it. For one Moonie your an Adult and also a Parent. Most of us are teenagers and infact enjoy the fact that on this medicore lil game the teenagers truly control it. But when someone like who comes in and forces rules on us, we just get annoyed. For example, I have no been the one to actually follow the rules on graal since I started. Ive used trainers, Ive cursed, abused bugs..etc etc (Just about everything) and infact rlly never got into any big trouble. But when I played a server like npulse that was no different from all the medicore classic servers, I got spazzed the **** out of by the staff. Mainly because they are all older, because I simply know that anyone younger didnt and still dont care.

Well I guess Im just saying at our age (Im 16) we just dont like rules. No one has a problem with older people playin, we have a problem with older people getting in our way in the real world and on this damn game. Even though some older people on this game are pretty cool lol.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by excaliber7388

So, do you ever hove conversations in real life? You know, sometimes they stray off topic slightly, but what they say still has something to do with the topic. What, do you close other firends mouths when they start to go off topic?

Doesn't even deserve a reply

I doubt many people see a problem with you playing graal, and I've provided a response to your question.

Glad you know more about my Graal life better then I do

Originally Posted by Infernix

Well I guess Im just saying at our age (Im 16) we just dont like rules. No one has a problem with older people playin, we have a problem with older people getting in our way in the real world and on this damn game. Even though some older people on this game are pretty cool lol.

What rules did I push on people the first time I signed on Graal?
None.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Infernix

Well I guess Im just saying at our age (Im 16) we just dont like rules.

But seriously: show me a game without rules. We have rules all over in our life, because without them the world will get out of order. Law=rules, religion=rules, family=rules, relationship=rules. If there where no rules we still would act like we did in the stone age.

[ApothiX]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Doesn't even deserve a reply

Moonie has no friends in real life. She's too old.

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Glad you know more about my Graal life better then I do

If you know everything, then why did you ask us about it in the first place?

Originally Posted by Infernix

Well I guess Im just saying at our age (Im 16) we just dont like rules. No one has a problem with older people playin, we have a problem with older people getting in our way in the real world and on this damn game. Even though some older people on this game are pretty cool lol.

Wow, are you an idiot? Point +1 for Moonie. If you're using your cheating the game as an excuse to hate older people because they punish you for it, then screw you. You deserve to be punished if you are cheating to win. People play this game to have fun, not to get annoyed by some kid who knows how to hit a few buttons in a dialog window to make his character go 10 times faster.



Also, Moonie, I have been wondering: How many times have you used your age as a backup in an argument, ie: "I'm older than you, I know more about this" etc.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by ApothiX

Moonie has no friends in real life. She's too old.

Wrong, and I specifically asked for replies to NOT be hateful.

If you know everything, then why did you ask us about it in the first place?

Did you read the whole thing? Obviously not.

Also, Moonie, I have been wondering: How many times have you used your age as a backup in an argument, ie: "I'm older than you, I know more about this" etc.

I don't think I have. If I have, then I had a reason for saying it.

[Rufus]

Back to the original question..

Originally Posted by Darlene159

It's simple.
I am an adult, I am a woman, and I am a mom.
3 things that kids come on Graal to get away from

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Back to the original question..

Yes, I remember saying that.
I still think that, but I think there is more to it then that sometimes.

[contiga]

Originally Posted by ApothiX

Moonie has no friends in real life. She's too old.

Please watch out on what you are saying.. do you know what kind of impact such things (hatefull things) can have on people? Don't **** up the fun for people, you little retard!

[-Ching]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Yes, I remember saying that.
I still think that, but I think there is more to it then that sometimes.

It's simple, people think it's weird/dont understand why people your age to play a game like this with much younger people. Graal is mostly about the community, and the community is mostly people between the ages of 10-22, to put it plainly why would someone your age want to talk and play with people alot younger and alot less mature than yourself. On paper it just doesnt seem right.

[excaliber7388]

Well this thread has taught me something.
Moonie's a crybaby
She doesn't care if we don;t like her here, but in game, it's very important
We don't stop playing because we grow old, we grow old because we stop playing.
The world is flat, and the pyramids were buyilt by martians.

[TedHead2k]

Just think about what's going on. You're a 30-something year old and you're trying to make peace and friendship with a bunch of early teen nerds. You post on here in the same maneurism as other members and talk to others as if they are on the same level as yourself. There's nothing actually WRONG with this, but in real life, that's a bit out of the ordinairy. Someone your age wouldn't really hang out with a bunch of kids for leisure in real life. It's not as deep as people are making it out to be, it's just plain odd. And you know how well people take to things that are odd. Especially on Graal, a place full of *****s who hide behind their screens calling each other noobs and whatever else.

The problem is plain and simply that you are in a community comprised mainly of immature kids. Gaining everyones respect would be impossible, and I'm not really sure why you would want it anyway.

EDIT: Ching summed it up really nicely, I didn't get his post before I replied.

[-Ching]

Originally Posted by TedHead2k

EDIT: Ching summed it up really nicely

And I was just about to post this to say the same thing about you