Maloria Development: Ground Zero

zokemon · #1 05-02-2006, 04:42 AM

For the past 2 months (at least), the management of Maloria has declined steadfast to being almost completely inactive. While at first it did not leave to much of an impact on the staff force and its rate of development, it has now become a problem that is causing much harm to the server. During the course of this time many staff that had been on Maloria for quiet along time were either fired or quit and we now find our selves with only 3 active members of the team (All scripters...) and pages upon pages of applications for hirings. While I was granted the power to hire staff, I did not have the rights to do such and with the absence of management this will only get worse if things carry on as they are.

the current management appears to have lost interest in the server but does not wish to pass it on to more capable hands. This issue has made a big impact already as the decline in server development has caused a discomfort in most of the player count (many wish to leave). To make it blunt: Someone else needs to get in there.

already Lyndzey has been on and talked to two of us about this problem and has made a support ticket about it. She asked many for manager recommendations and it appears the ball has been passed my way. As it stands right now (I hear) the task has been assigned to Houdiniman. We have not seen any action from that side of the field though. I know a lot of problems have been going on in the PWA department but our server is dieing fast.

We need help.

Moondeath_2 · #2 05-02-2006, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

For the past 2 months (at least), the management of Maloria has declined steadfast to being almost completely inactive. While at first it did not leave to much of an impact on the staff force and its rate of development, it has now become a problem that is causing much harm to the server. During the course of this time many staff that had been on Maloria for quiet along time were either fired or quit and we now find our selves with only 3 active members of the team (All scripters...) and pages upon pages of applications for hirings. While I was granted the power to hire staff, I did not have the rights to do such and with the absence of management this will only get worse if things carry on as they are.

the current management appears to have lost interest in the server but does not wish to pass it on to more capable hands. This issue has made a big impact already as the decline in server development has caused a discomfort in most of the player count (many wish to leave). To make it blunt: Someone else needs to get in there.

already Lyndzey has been on and talked to two of us about this problem and has made a support ticket about it. She asked many for manager recommendations and it appears the ball has been passed my way. As it stands right now (I hear) the task has been assigned to Houdiniman. We have not seen any action from that side of the field though. I know a lot of problems have been going on in the PWA department but our server is dieing fast.

We need help.

I totally agree, I too quit because most of the staff couldn't keep it together but now I'm ready to come back. So do you want me to come back and help out but this task seems nearly impossible, do to the fact Maniaman has ignored all messages from me through email, msn, aim, #gscript (irc channel),Maloria rc pm (a few weeks ago), and yet yesterday he told me he'd think about rehiring me and Phantom when I got his attention through a annoyomus sn on msn and then as soon as I told him who I was he started ignoring me and he said he had to go soon and he came back and said talk to me tommorow about it I tried he had no reply to any of the im's i sent him. Well either Zero or someone else needs to get abilities to set rights and change the server options to hire and fire staff members to keep things under control since the only two members who can do that type of thing "TB3 and Maniaman" are both inactive. Another option the server should be handed over to someone I prefer Zero he has been working very hard lately and so have the staff that are actually active but Zero seems perfect for the management spot I asked Lyndzey to go on Maloria and talk to them about it, and she did I saw the logs and she said she would talk to the other playerworld admins about it and then yes like Zero said HoudiniMan was supposed to come, and do something about the management problem but he has not been on Maloria although he was on another playerworld, Trenches to deal with a problem conserning stolen graphics from one of the managers there and he has been on #gscript's irl channel idling i'm not quite certain he will respond, so yeah really now something needs to be done. I ask from Stefan or someone in playerworld administration to act on this situation.

Tom · #3 05-02-2006, 04:45 AM

I fully agree with what zokemon here has said, ive been Police on maloria, and been around the server for a LONG time. And have seen it steadily decrease. The co manager, as much as a like him and as talented as he is, hes the most inactive person with a high ranked job on a server ive ever seen.

As for Maniaman, the current manager, he is so inactive towards Maloria, as if he doesnt even care. But he continues to keep his hands in control of it, taking it downhill with his inactiveness.

Maloria has great potential and i really want to see it improve with a better manager. So hopefully something will be done to help this playerworld.

anubis_wing · #4 05-02-2006, 04:46 AM

Yup Maloria really needs more capable staff because the ones now are either incapable or just plain ignorant. Plus people get bored of Mal pretty easily but there's the players who like it but since staff are lazy were gonna lose our world.

Moondeath_2 · #5 05-02-2006, 04:50 AM

In my point of view I don't want this playerworld to fail at all. But unfourtionately with lack of management it's steadly heading towards failure, and something shouldn't definately be done about it. Otherwise the server I like most on graal and for many other members will miss it if it goes down.

Gambet · #6 05-02-2006, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by zokemon

For the past 2 months (at least), the management of Maloria has declined steadfast to being almost completely inactive. While at first it did not leave to much of an impact on the staff force and its rate of development, it has now become a problem that is causing much harm to the server. During the course of this time many staff that had been on Maloria for quiet along time were either fired or quit and we now find our selves with only 3 active members of the team (All scripters...) and pages upon pages of applications for hirings. While I was granted the power to hire staff, I did not have the rights to do such and with the absence of management this will only get worse if things carry on as they are.

the current management appears to have lost interest in the server but does not wish to pass it on to more capable hands. This issue has made a big impact already as the decline in server development has caused a discomfort in most of the player count (many wish to leave). To make it blunt: Someone else needs to get in there.

already Lyndzey has been on and talked to two of us about this problem and has made a support ticket about it. She asked many for manager recommendations and it appears the ball has been passed my way. As it stands right now (I hear) the task has been assigned to Houdiniman. We have not seen any action from that side of the field though. I know a lot of problems have been going on in the PWA department but our server is dieing fast.

We need help.

I couldn't agree any more. We have quite a large staff list, but let me narrow it down to those that actually work:

Zero (zokemon): Coder
ShadowBlaze (ZeLpH_MyStiK): Coder
Kay (KaY_ThE_GrEaT): Level Designs
Gambet (Gambet): Coder (Mostly for Nations and Events)

Now, we currently have no administration, because our last two administrators have quit. The recent administrator that quit still has RC with all his rights, which doesn't really bother us, but it's not very secure. We know that the former administrator is a good guy, so he would never harm the server, intentionally, in any way, but what if someone were to get ahold of his account information? You never know.

Now, I bust my backside day in and day out, creating new content for the server almost daily. Each week I try to update the server with at least one new thing. The problem is, I lack rights that I've needed to complete some projects, based solely on the two facts that:

A) I'm not the type of person to ask for rights, I only ask for the rights that I need to work. This is a problem when it comes to an inactive management unit, because when I do need rights, no one is around to give me them.

B) The management unit has seemed to have lost interest on the server and is barely ever on. When they are, they become idle and do not really attend to staff needs unless they are utterly important. No one else has rights to setrights or to the server options, so what else are we supposed to do when we lack rights to work?

Now, I've never had a problem with the management unit until they started to become inactive. The current staff put a lot of their free time into developing for the wonderful server of Maloria, but how can we be one unit when we have no one to look up to? No one to set order? No one to set the examples?
We've done a hell of a job working independently amongst each other (independently in the sense that we have worked without a management unit for quite some time now, but we do help each other out on projects when needed). I just wish the current management unit would at least appoint an active staff member with sufficient rights to cover for them in their leap of absence. It seems the current management unit fears losing Maloria, and so they cannot let Maloria go, but in doing so, they are doing more harm then good to the server.

There are only 4 of us that are actually active on a daily basis. Recently, ShadowBlaze has been having some personal problems, so he hasnt been as active these past few days, but normally, he's pretty active. We can't manage this server without the proper rights to do so.

If we had to select a new person to manage, I would support Zero, for right now, he's creating Maloria v2.5, re-coding all of the current systems into what seems like it will attract tons of players when he is completely finished. Zero knows those he can trust in the staff team, so he definitely would not be leading alone, and I, for one, since I can only speak for myself, would stand strongly behind him, supporting him, and aiding him with keeping Maloria to its expected standards.

I am not trying to bash anyone and I am not trying to get anyone thrown out of their position. All that I ask for, all that we ask for, is for something to be done about our current management situation, because three coders and one level maker can only do so much with limited rights.

I can only post one every eight hours or so, so I hope this post makes an impact. My intentions are for the better of Maloria, and my comments are not meant to be taken as a personal insult. I admire the work that the current management unit has done to help make Maloria what it is today, but it seems that their train has ran out of gas, and it's time to appoint someone else as the conductor.

Moondeath_2 · #7 05-02-2006, 05:04 AM

Amen, Gambet.

irule13 · #8 05-02-2006, 05:10 AM

I fully agree. Action needs to be taken immediately to preserve maloria and i believe Zero is the best choice.

Moondeath_2 · #9 05-02-2006, 05:20 AM

Rawr! What about me huh huh huh! Just kidding

irule13 · #10 05-02-2006, 05:24 AM

Has anyone else noticed so far only malorian players and staff have said anything?

protagonist · #11 05-02-2006, 05:41 AM

I'll be your manager.

But things will change. Half of your playerbase will be unconditionally banned.

Andy0687 · #12 05-02-2006, 05:52 AM

I dont know much about Maloria, I played there for awhile and through the forums. The way this thread was presented has shown me as an outside viewer two things though.

a) Maloria has a problem
b) The Origonal poster has a very very mature way to bring it to everyones attention

From what I have seen I believe that if the ball is in your hands, and that you guys are in this much of a bind, why would they have a problem passing a server to someone who seems as respectable as you?

Hope everything works out for you.

irule13 · #13 05-02-2006, 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist

I'll be your manager.

But things will change. Half of your playerbase will be unconditionally banned.

You couldn't do that without bringing globals.

Moondeath_2 · #14 05-02-2006, 06:15 AM

CidNight1142 · #15 05-02-2006, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist

I'll be your manager.

But things will change. Half of your playerbase will be unconditionally banned.

VT for governor of Neverland Ranch!

protagonist · #16 05-02-2006, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by irule13

You couldn't do that without bringing globals.

Why?

Half of your playerbase should be banned.

irule13 · #17 05-02-2006, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by CidNight1142

VT for governor of Neverland Ranch!

That is an extremely disturbing thought.

Quote:

Originally Posted by protagonist

Why?

Half of your playerbase should be banned.

Really? On what grounds?

Moondeath_2 · #18 05-02-2006, 08:16 AM

Omg stop you're haunting my day dreams.

Thallen · #19 05-02-2006, 08:23 AM

Isn't this the exact same thing I posted a few weeks ago that everyone ignored? Hence, I have nothing to add, and I will just lurk and watch Meggido/irule13 make posts to make him look more stupid.

ZeLpH_MyStiK · #20 05-02-2006, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet

Recently, ShadowBlaze has been having some personal problems, so he hasnt been as active these past few days, but normally, he's pretty active.

Heh it actually started out differently. But everything is revolved now. =D

irule13 · #21 05-02-2006, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Thallen

Isn't this the exact same thing I posted a few weeks ago that everyone ignored? Hence, I have nothing to add, and I will just lurk and watch Meggido/irule13 make posts to make him look more stupid.

How am I making myself look stupid by posting my opinions?

xAndrewx · #22 05-02-2006, 09:35 AM

I can't see anyone else being manager other than Maniaman.

DarkPhantom316 · #23 05-02-2006, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by protagonist

Why?

Half of your playerbase should be banned.

Your face should be banned

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx

I can't see anyone else being manager other than Maniaman.

Really? I can see myself as manager lol.
No I'm just kidding.

Anyway it's kinda hard to work on a server where
there are no active managers to give you rights
if you need them, or if someone needs to be hired
the only person who can do that is the manager.
I'm not taking sides here because, mania's my friend
and well he is inactive and maloria needs updating
and an active manager

. But, who knows
he might pop out of the inactive stage any minute now

Tom · #24 05-02-2006, 02:10 PM

I agree with everyone so far, and i personally feel Zero would most easily and for the better replace Maniaman. Andrew, if you play the server for a few months you will see why people want him replaced.

BlueSamurai · #25 05-03-2006, 12:45 AM

I agree..with maniaman as manager, hes basically let RC staff "run wild." there has been numerous problems with abuse, corruption,even one staff got globaled for sexually harassing someone...

plus, he is basically using favortism with staff on this server..i use myself as an example...last year i was Nations Admin on maloria..when a fellow staff Longdon got on he told mania "i dont like blue, she is annoying. please fire her or i am gone." So Mr.Worry, who was manager at the time, let Mania solve the problem.. Mania fired me..no apparent reason whatsoever, and i was doing good on the server also.i chose not to bring in globals because i didnt want to get him fired at the time (cuse i thought he could do good)

Mania is also making Maloria version3..which could have been done months and months ago, be since he has been very inactive and relies on Tb3 to do work done(tb3 is as inactive as mania is..for personal reasons i understand). so v3 is basically sitting in a puddle of nothing waiting to be worked on..more staff could be hired, but most the staff have come and gone because they did things on the server that they shouldent have done...and most of the good staff here left because of poorly management...like phantom and smirt and other great staffmembers

Infernix · #26 05-03-2006, 01:30 AM

Damn...YOUR ONLY LAT IS KAY O_O! This is a seriously bad situation for Maloria,I shoulda taught her to make levels(<3). But ummm get a graphics dude and a few mediocore Lats (Since your levels are modiocore anyways) and Im sure your server will be alright. Managers usually are lazy bastards who do nothing but talk anyways.

If babylon ever decides to fire me or just ya know stops development and gets on my nerves again. Ill come help outa Maloria with some lebeling....Or Delteria. One of those lol.

DarkPhantom316 · #27 05-03-2006, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Infernix

Damn...YOUR ONLY LAT IS KAY O_O! This is a seriously bad situation for Maloria,I shoulda taught her to make levels(<3). But ummm get a graphics dude and a few mediocore Lats (Since your levels are modiocore anyways) and Im sure your server will be alright. Managers usually are lazy bastards who do nothing but talk anyways.

If babylon ever decides to fire me or just ya know stops development and gets on my nerves again. Ill come help outa Maloria with some lebeling....Or Delteria. One of those lol.

Can't really hire any Level Makers,
considering the managers are the only one with setrights, etc.
And both of them are inactive, so it's really hard to give anyone
rc nonetheless give anyone the right they need to
work properly. And Kay isn't the only person on the LAT
there are two others

irule13 · #28 05-03-2006, 01:49 AM

Maniaman was on today and all we saw him do was idle on player for a while. Something needs to be done to save maloria.

Maniaman · #29 05-03-2006, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by irule13

Maniaman was on today and all we saw him do was idle on player for a while. Something needs to be done to save maloria.

but what you did not see is what has been going on on RC

irule13 · #30 05-03-2006, 02:20 AM

Yes that is true, but the fact remains something needs to be done.

DarkPhantom316 · #31 05-03-2006, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Maniaman

but what you did not see is what has been going on on RC

Oh what are you doing?
Idling on RC as usual?
Maybe Waiting for TB3 to come to the rescue
to finish scripts that you aren't anywhere
capable of?
Or maybe you're having Bob spam RC
with random quotes, that piss people off

Damix2 · #32 05-03-2006, 02:36 AM

I think Maniaman does an awesome job

DarkPhantom316 · #33 05-03-2006, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Damix2

I think Maniaman does an awesome job

Really now, Can you tell me some things that he's done?
Since you know all about him, and all the wicked awesome
stuff he does.

Tom · #34 05-03-2006, 05:09 PM

Shame a global wont read this thread anytime soon, especially the one who has been assigned to the job.

protagonist · #35 05-03-2006, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irule13

Really? On what grounds?

Personal enjoyment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkPhantom316

Oh what are you doing?
Idling on RC as usual?
Maybe Waiting for TB3 to come to the rescue
to finish scripts that you aren't anywhere
capable of?
Or maybe you're having Bob spam RC
with random quotes, that piss people off

Do you think it is cool
to speak in prose
or something?

Thallen · #36 05-03-2006, 05:20 PM

While we have a thread of Maloria, I think I should make a few points on their stand vs. Zodiac, it seems. I don't work for Zodiac, probably only spent 10 minutes on the server, but it's nice, and I've seen people on Maloria and people on the #gscript IRL channel whining about how 'Zodiac stole their system.' I guess that makes sense, since Maloria was the first game was an RPG approach and a level-up theme, right? Not even the first on Graal. Graal stole their idea from Zelda, anyway.

Tom · #37 05-03-2006, 05:21 PM

Everyone stop argueing in the thread, and keep to the subject of the thread.

Yen · #38 05-03-2006, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Thallen

While we have a thread of Maloria, I think I should make a few points on their stand vs. Zodiac, it seems. I don't work for Zodiac, probably only spent 10 minutes on the server, but it's nice, and I've seen people on Maloria and people on the #gscript IRL channel whining about how 'Zodiac stole their system.' I guess that makes sense, since Maloria was the first game was an RPG approach and a level-up theme, right? Not even the first on Graal. Graal stole their idea from Zelda, anyway.

Well, let's get a few things straight.

First of all, Maloria is actually based off Providence; MrWorry would spend his whole day playing Providence with me, so when it went down he wanted to turn Maloria into his own version of Providence.

Second, Maloria can't even compare to Zodiac in terms of NPCs. Our systems are nothing like Maloria's are, though they may be like the systems 'Maloria v3' was supposed to have. Unfortunately, they never managed to complete v3, so you can't say I ripped them off; I scripted my systems first.

Third, Maloria's staff can't compare to my scripting ability. Ajira is the only one who would be capable of scripting something like Zodiac's systems, and I know he doesn't want to. When I logged on, their scripters warped to me and started calling me down, telling me my scripts are crap. I ask you, if my scripts are so crappy, why have you failed to script the same thing? Hell, you had it planned back in June. It only took me three days to script them, yet you guys can't do it in over half a year with 6 scripters?

In terms of stolen GFX, I'm working with what Zodiac gave me. I really don't know if something is stolen, however I do know that we have had a few GFX staff in common. They uploaded the same things on both Zodiac and Maloria.
However, some of Zodiac's original GFX have been recolored and uploaded to Maloria. The same may have happened on Zodiac, but I wouldn't know.
Either way, both servers have 'stolen' GFX, so it's best that Maloria just drops the subject and goes back to crying in their corner. Zodiac's players aren't logging on Maloria and harassing your players for stealing our GFX.

Zodiac has been getting harassed by Maloria's staff and players all day yesterday. When I logged on, I screenshotted 11 people (including a Police and two staff members) telling me to 'Get the **** off their server' and saying things like 'We don't want ***gots here,' as well as people using scripts that made me unable to speak, which is illegal as far as I know. All of this happened while Maniaman was standing there, and he wasn't AFK.
They're just acting like little children; Zodiac got a bigger, yellower truck and now they're crying because they can't get one for themselves.

P.S. our baddies don't step on players and have the ability to use spells and skills, whaddayathink of that!? Damn right!

Fogles · #39 05-03-2006, 06:53 PM

Ownd.

irule13 · #40 05-03-2006, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Yen

Well, let's get a few things straight.

First of all, Maloria is actually based off Providence; MrWorry would spend his whole day playing Providence with me, so when it went down he wanted to turn Maloria into his own version of Providence.

Second, Maloria can't even compare to Zodiac in terms of NPCs. Our systems are nothing like Maloria's are, though they may be like the systems 'Maloria v3' was supposed to have. Unfortunately, they never managed to complete v3, so you can't say I ripped them off; I scripted my systems first.

Third, Maloria's staff can't compare to my scripting ability. Ajira is the only one who would be capable of scripting something like Zodiac's systems, and I know he doesn't want to. When I logged on, their scripters warped to me and started calling me down, telling me my scripts are crap. I ask you, if my scripts are so crappy, why have you failed to script the same thing? Hell, you had it planned back in June. It only took me three days to script them, yet you guys can't do it in over half a year with 6 scripters?

In terms of stolen GFX, I'm working with what Zodiac gave me. I really don't know if something is stolen, however I do know that we have had a few GFX staff in common. They uploaded the same things on both Zodiac and Maloria.
However, some of Zodiac's original GFX have been recolored and uploaded to Maloria. The same may have happened on Zodiac, but I wouldn't know.
Either way, both servers have 'stolen' GFX, so it's best that Maloria just drops the subject and goes back to crying in their corner. Zodiac's players aren't logging on Maloria and harassing your players for stealing our GFX.

Zodiac has been getting harassed by Maloria's staff and players all day yesterday. When I logged on, I screenshotted 11 people (including a Police and two staff members) telling me to 'Get the **** off their server' and saying things like 'We don't want ***gots here,' as well as people using scripts that made me unable to speak, which is illegal as far as I know. All of this happened while Maniaman was standing there, and he wasn't AFK.
They're just acting like little children; Zodiac got a bigger, yellower truck and now they're crying because they can't get one for themselves.

P.S. our baddies don't step on players and have the ability to use spells and skills, whaddayathink of that!? Damn right!

I never once complained about you guys having stuff that is on maloria. I complained that you have copywrited material from an extremely popular PS2 game on your server.
Also this is not the spot to come and say that you are better, and considering we have new systems that will be better then yours coming out hopefully in a few weeks i suggest you keep quiet unless you have all the facts.