Versus split/whatever.

[Mykel]

I'm sorry to say that Versus has made a split between the staff.

This is how the story goes:

Everything was going fine, and then as of most recently, all of a sudden Wan started adding random ideas to the server. We had a general theme to the server that we were going to be able to throw off with optional RP.

However, Wan wants to take the server in a more PK/Classic style theme (AKA Every other server ever). And, knowing that a server like that wouldn't be successful, there has been a seperation.

I'm not sure what Eagle will be doing with his server, but we'll have an answer soon.

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by Mykel

PK/Classic style theme

Great. I can't wait.
Sounds good.

Just wondering, Antony did the levels, Yen did the scripting, Eagle was hosting it, what exactly did you do [Mykel]?

[Malinko]

I thought WanDaMan wanted Versus to be a nice classic theme playerworld like Classic but with Graal2001 aspects?

[Codein]

I reckon he did, but things have obviously spiralled out of his direction and influence. I don't think he'll give up though. Server or not, Wan hardly ever leaves an OW unfinished unless there's a good reason.

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Great. I can't wait.
Sounds good.

Just wondering, Antony did the levels, Yen did the scripting, Eagle was hosting it, what exactly did you do [Mykel]?

Let's not get personal. But if you want to, I'll tell you what I did. I brought Eagle onto the project. I hired Spanky, Genesis, Alex, Firedemon, Saros, Thrash, and others.

Also, Wan and Eagle will admit this to you, I kept the entire staff team organized and I was basically the only person actually giving out assignments.

Anyways, what did you do? Wan gave you a level 4 RC, even after he had access the the Admin account. Hm, and somehow 20-25 Graal Kingdom's graphics ended up being uploaded onto the server, the server which you used to work for and now had upload rights to. Coincidence?

Stay out of this one buddy. Oh and about you not being able to wait to play a classic/pk server, go play UN/Delteria.

[Mykel]

Also, isn't account sharing illegal? You, being former global staff, should know of such things. And seeing as Wan was using your account, that seems to be illegal.

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by Mykel

Also, isn't account sharing illegal? You, being former global staff, should know of such things. And seeing as Wan was using your account, that seems to be illegal.

Considering, I'm not a global, nor have I ever been.
What're you trying to say? Antony's been on my account?
Why would Antony use my account, when he has/had the admin account? You're not making any sense Mykel, stick to something that you know you can do, not what you think you can do.
I was given RC to look over the levels/scripts.
I uploaded alot of graphics from my webgifs, what's wrong with that? I don't recall seeing the graphics being used, what does it matter?
Also, before you try to call me a thief, read this.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ighlight=Mykel

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Considering, I'm not a global, nor have I ever been.
What're you trying to say? Antony's been on my account?
Why would Antony use my account, when he has/had the admin account? You're not making any sense Mykel, stick to something that you know you can do, not what you think you can do.
I was given RC to look over the levels/scripts.
I uploaded alot of graphics from my webgifs, what's wrong with that? I don't recall seeing the graphics being used, what does it matter?
Also, before you try to call me a thief, read this.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ighlight=Mykel

Okay, you uploaded graphics that were DIRECTLY from GK. DIRECTLY. The same exact graphics. Luckily, we were able to get permission to use them.

All of the axes, all of the mine rocks, all of the tree sprites, and many other things were direct copies from other servers. The link you posted is me posting a GUI that someone made on my staff team that is probably a rip of the other one, but hell, at least it is different.

Also, when you try to say stuff like "stick to something that you know you can do, not what you think you can do" you sound really badass, unless you are 100% wrong. Let me review:
For about the first week or two that the server was up, my 'Mykel' account wasn't upgraded, so I was using the Admin-Playerworld account. Wan was using your account. In his OWN words, he was going to use your account because 'Andy doesn't play Graal anymore.' That is an exact quote.

Also, Eagle can back all of this up.

On a sidenote, why are two seperate IPs set up under the account 'xAndrewx' on Versus? Another big coincidence. Stay out of this, because it has nothing to do with you. Also, you are breaking Graal Online rules.

That makes sense enough for you?

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by Mykel

Okay, you uploaded graphics that were DIRECTLY from GK. DIRECTLY. The same exact graphics. Luckily, we were able to get permission to use them.

haha, sure.

Originally Posted by Mykel

All of the axes, all of the mine rocks, all of the tree sprites, and many other things were direct copies from other servers. The link you posted is me posting a GUI that someone made on my staff team that is probably a rip of the other one, but hell, at least it is different.

haha, sure.

Originally Posted by Mykel

Also, when you try to say stuff like "stick to something that you know you can do, not what you think you can do" you sound really badass, unless you are 100% wrong. Let me review:
For about the first week or two that the server was up, my 'Mykel' account wasn't upgraded, so I was using the Admin-Playerworld account. Wan was using your account. In his OWN words, he was going to use your account because 'Andy doesn't play Graal anymore.' That is an exact quote.

Really? I didn't know that. I left Graal for some time, I don't deny that. Can you provide evidence? Antony is my brother, I'd prefer if you referred him as Antony too.

Originally Posted by Mykel

Also, Eagle can back all of this up.

Back you up on what? I don't understand what you're trying to prove Mykel.

Originally Posted by Mykel

On a sidenote, why are two seperate IPs set up under the account 'xAndrewx' on Versus? Another big coincidence. Stay out of this, because it has nothing to do with you. Also, you are breaking Graal Online rules.

It's not obvious? I have a computer, so does my nephew.
You're basically saying I can't install Graal on another machine? Haha.

Originally Posted by Mykel

That makes sense enough for you?

Not really, you still havn't provided any evidence. I'd like to see Antony on my account. I've played on my account with Antony besides me, does that mean he's on my account? I don't think so.

Also, Antony just sent me the chat log of you both on AIM. Haha, was funny. You just owned me on the forums, haha cool guy.
You go celebrate, go steal some gui.

Hey, let me finish this thread.
Versus is over. You're upset, you're gonna make some other RP playerworld that hasn't been done before. [DOH TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT MALORIA AND VAL' DOH DUH]
Antony isn't too bothered, he's gonna as you say

Mykel Drakken: make levels for hours on end some more, lol

and

Mykel Drakken: go back to graal being your life

.
Here's an update.

[Mykel]

First of all, isn't it also against the rules to post logs? Wow, more rule breaking. You are on a roll sir.

In other news, as far as the graphics being stolen, please read here.

Also, Malinko can back up any of the information in the above specified thread, considering most of the GFX were actually his and we had to get his permission to use them after they were uploaded. So, try again. Saying "haha, sure" doesn't get you out of uploading stolen GFX.

Also, as far as the account sharing:

I'm sure that it is just a coincidence that both of the accounts you two were using (those being Admin-Playerworld88 and xAndrewx) have the same exact IPs set under them? I mean that could obviously be a great coincidence, right? (Also, don't try the whole "we're brothers and live in the same house deal, because I already know that Wan is off at college")

Also, when I checked the most recent IP logged into the player characters for the said accounts, they were also (once again, I'm sure it's a big coincidence and you and think of a witty way [i.e. "haha,sure"] to explain it all) the same, with the exception of the static portion of the IP Address which is covered in the RC rights.

Screenshots below:
[Also, any global staff that wants to see that these screenshots aren't tampered with and are actually accurate is more than welcome to come on the server and be shown this.]

[Codein]

Err, you can go to college and come home didn't you know? They live in the same house hold, they have been for 3 or 4 years now.

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by Mykel

First of all, isn't it also against the rules to post logs? Wow, more rule breaking. You are on a roll sir.

Logs? that's a conversation. It doesn't show the time nor date, that's a log. Idiot.

Originally Posted by Mykel

In other news, as far as the graphics being stolen, please read here.

Hey, it's better to change it then keep it the same, isn't that right? [OASIS GUI LOL * 2]

Originally Posted by Mykel

Also, Malinko can back up any of the information in the above specified thread, considering most of the GFX were actually his and we had to get his permission to use them after they were uploaded. So, try again. Saying "haha, sure" doesn't get you out of uploading stolen GFX.

Wait, it's stolen?
Where did I say it's mine? I don't recall I ever did, did I?

Originally Posted by Mykel

Also, as far as the account sharing:

I'm sure that it is just a coincidence that both of the accounts you two were using (those being Admin-Playerworld88 and xAndrewx) have the same exact IPs set under them? I mean that could obviously be a great coincidence, right? (Also, don't try the whole "we're brothers and live in the same house deal, because I already know that Wan is off at college")

yay, you see that we're brothers. We're also twins, read my short biography. I'm not too bothered if that was a sarcastic post or not. I don't need to prove that I'm Antonys identical twin brother.

Originally Posted by Mykel

Also, when I checked the most recent IP logged into the player characters for the said accounts, they were also (once again, I'm sure it's a big coincidence and you and think of a witty way [i.e. "haha,sure"] to explain it all) the same, with the exception of the static portion of the IP Address which is covered in the RC rights.
Screenshots below:
[Also, any global staff that wants to see that these screenshots aren't tampered with and are actually accurate is more than welcome to come on the server and be shown this.]

Great, you've come up with some evidence. It still doesn't prove anything. That's basically saying I can't have more then one IP range, haha quite pathetic evidence really. Nice going, you owned me once again on the forums. I applaud you, so much.

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Versus is over. You're upset, you're gonna make some other RP playerworld that hasn't been done before. [DOH TOTALLY FORGOT ABOUT MALORIA AND VAL' DOH DUH]
Antony isn't too bothered, he's gonna as you say

Who said I was upset? In fact, I'm the one who told Wan that we weren't making a server together anymore. I made the initial post telling everyone that it was done. I only replied to your posts. So before you try to psycho-analyze me, you might want to look at the facts.

Originally Posted by Codein

Err, you can go to college and come home didn't you know? They live in the same house hold, they have been for 3 or 4 years now.

So this explains why both of the IPs set in both accounts are the same? If Wan's account had his school IP set, and then the same IP that Andrew had, then that would be completely understandable. But why do they both have the same then?

Given, I could be wrong about this. Maybe Wan is home on break, or maybe Andrew goes to the same college. I'm not saying that I know 100% that I'm right, because I don't. Well, at least about the IPs. I DO know that Wan used Andrew's account, because Wan told me he did.

[Mykel]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Hey, it's better to change it then keep it the same, isn't that right? [OASIS GUI LOL * 2]

Notice how you keep going back to that. Just because someone has done something in the past doesn't mean it takes away from what you have done. Example: If Velox tells you that you stole an account [lets say that you infact did], just because he is the one that is saying it doesn't mean that it wasn't stolen. Same goes with the GFX.

Wait, it's stolen?
Where did I say it's mine? I don't recall I ever did, did I?

Are you kidding me? Haha. So, you are saying, that it is only stealing if you publicly say it is yours? Haha. Okay, I walk into a man's house and take his TV back to my house. The cops show up at my house and find his TV. But I tell him: "Hey, I never said it was mine!"

yay, you see that we're brothers. We're also twins, read my short biography. I'm not too bothered if that was a sarcastic post or not. I don't need to prove that I'm Antonys identical twin brother.

I know you two are twin brothers. What's the point?

Great, you've come up with some evidence. It still doesn't prove anything. That's basically saying I can't have more then one IP range, haha quite pathetic evidence really. Nice going, you owned me once again on the forums. I applaud you, so much.

How is that not evidence? The same exact IPs are set when you live in two seperate places. I understand that chances are that he still comes home and uses your computer(s), but what does that have to do with the two different IPs being the same?

[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by Mykel

Who said I was upset? In fact, I'm the one who told Wan that we weren't making a server together anymore. I made the initial post telling everyone that it was done. I only replied to your posts. So before you try to psycho-analyze me, you might want to look at the facts.

Well, it's obvious. I asked a simple question and you thought it would be great to 'OWN' me on the forums.
If you wasn't too bothered, why would you carry on trying to provide inconclusive evidence. I think you should get your facts right.

Originally Posted by Mykel

So this explains why both of the IPs set in both accounts are the same? If Wan's account had his school IP set, and then the same IP that Andrew had, then that would be completely understandable. But why do they both have the same then?

Wait, since when did Antony say he played Graal at college? now you're trying to provide FAKE evidence?

Originally Posted by Mykel

Given, I could be wrong about this. Maybe Wan is home on break, or maybe Andrew goes to the same college. I'm not saying that I know 100% that I'm right, because I don't. Well, at least about the IPs. I DO know that Wan used Andrew's account, because Wan told me he did.

Sure, ok evidence plz. Real evidence, not fake this time.

[Darlene159]

None of this belongs on the forums, and you both know that....

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by Mykel

So this explains why both of the IPs set in both accounts are the same? If Wan's account had his school IP set, and then the same IP that Andrew had, then that would be completely understandable. But why do they both have the same then?

... You did not listen. They still live in the same household.

Originally Posted by Mykel

Given, I could be wrong about this. Maybe Wan is home on break, or maybe Andrew goes to the same college. I'm not saying that I know 100% that I'm right, because I don't. Well, at least about the IPs. I DO know that Wan used Andrew's account, because Wan told me he did.

... You did not listen. They still live in the same household.