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Old 05-23-2005, 04:50 AM
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Ok, I'm tired of people cursing and acting disrespectful to others, and then when they are reported to a staff member of a certain server, that person tries to lie there way out and say that they didn't say anything, and that the history was edited.

I'm proposing that PM logs on servers be saved to a folder on RC, that way, when someone reports a player about a certain PM, the staff can view this folder, view the PM reported, and act upon it.

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Bob messages Billy with fowl comments and racial remarks on <servernamehere>. Billy reports Bobs PM to a GP on <servernamehere>, and then the GP messages Bob about the PM. Bob then says that he never PM'd that to Billy, and that Billy is editing history. The GP is then confused on who to trust, and then just warns Bob, but doesn't do anything else, since it's Bob's word versus Billy's.

Now, if PM's were saved to a folder, which can be accessed via RC, then the GP would just view the folder, view the file where Bob messaged Billy, and then the GP will see that Bob did in fact PM billy with fowl comments and racial remarks, and thus, he can act on it.
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Old 05-23-2005, 05:03 AM
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A) That is an over-invasion of peoples privacy.
B) Do you have any idea how huge the folder would become on a server like Unholy Nation after just a few weeks?
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Old 05-23-2005, 05:34 AM
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Uhh already possible. Just edit the swear filter Stefan installed to scan PMs for words that you add to the Wordfilter/rules.txt and it will either:
(1. Log the account,time, and word(s) used
(2. Block the entire PM from being sent if a certain word(s) is/are used
(3. Warn the person using the certain word(s).

All the above depends on which rules you set for each word added to the check list.

Then check Swearfilter/logs.txt and boom! A nice huge log for you to look through until you go blind.

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B) Do you have any idea how huge the folder would become on a server like Unholy Nation after just a few weeks?
Yes, after uploading a relatively tame version of the swear filter now used on Era, the log.txt file was over a megabyte in about an hour..
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Old 05-23-2005, 05:42 AM
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Or you can script your own PM and have a Report PM button on the PM window. Easily done.
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Old 05-23-2005, 05:43 AM
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Or you can script your own PM and have a Report PM button on the PM window. Easily done.
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Old 05-23-2005, 06:04 AM
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Logging every PM would be insane. You'd get a lot more than "fowl" comments, and most players don't want people like you perusing their private messages.
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Old 05-23-2005, 08:03 AM
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I like Velox's idea.
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Old 05-23-2005, 12:00 PM
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Or you can script your own PM and have a Report PM button on the PM window. Easily done.

Ah, yes, much better idea
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Old 05-23-2005, 12:42 PM
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Bob messages Billy with fowl comments and racial remarks on <servernamehere>. Billy reports Bobs PM to a GP on <servernamehere>, and then the GP messages Bob about the PM. Bob then says that he never PM'd that to Billy, and that Billy is editing history. The GP is then confused on who to trust, and then just warns Bob, but doesn't do anything else, since it's Bob's word versus Billy's.
ahaha chicken comments. But like it was already said, you can do it with an NPC using the swear filter, and savelog.
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Old 05-23-2005, 06:09 PM
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I hate this, it invades privacy and is completly un-graalian. I swear if this is passed, bye bye I go.
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Old 05-23-2005, 07:57 PM
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If they had a report function, couldn't it be abused, as in reporting every PM?
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Old 05-23-2005, 08:01 PM
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I hate this, it invades privacy and is completly un-graalian. I swear if this is passed, bye bye I go.
You can basically do it already.
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Old 05-23-2005, 08:02 PM
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If they had a report function, couldn't it be abused, as in reporting every PM?
In which case you suspend the person's report rights.
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:07 PM
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Yes, Velox's idea seems more appropriate for the issue.
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Old 05-23-2005, 09:25 PM
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=3! Yay! Velox saves the day!
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