A small request for GK

Brad · #1 01-09-2005, 01:18 AM

Think we can get an American admin? I am kind of sick of the foreigners who don't understand alot of the things I try to speak to them about. This is not a hate-thread, but with the departure of Jagen and Lance disappearing off the earth shouldn't we get one?

Chris · #2 01-09-2005, 01:22 AM

I have to agree. I asked Bjorn something once the other day and he replied with incoherent babble. I'm not trying to be mean and I can understand English not being his first language. What he replied with totally threw me off.

GryffonDurime · #3 01-09-2005, 01:28 AM

*SubliminalmessageGryffonforRPAdminofGraalKingdoms *

I agree with Brad.

Nappa · #4 01-09-2005, 01:43 AM

I completely agree. I was unfairly banned today as well.

dNeonb · #5 01-09-2005, 02:00 AM

First is that this thread is in the from forums anyway.

The other point is that Lance is still Staff on GK so you have an american one.

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

*SubliminalmessageGryffonforRPAdminofGraalKingdoms

I guess not. Schlurfy just kicked you because you were an inactive staffmember.

Edit: Excuse me brad!
It's kinda late here and I'm totaly tiered. I did it just wrong I just banned Nappa thats why. Not you Brad! Dunno I was confused with the names.
You are not banned, Brad.

Zurkiba · #6 01-09-2005, 02:10 AM

And can we get some non-corrupt people in? Honestly

GryffonDurime · #7 01-09-2005, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

I guess not. Schlurfy just kicked you because you were an inactive staffmember.

What does being an RP Admin have ANYTHING to do with being an Events Master? Beyond the fact that RP is typically serialized into special events, nothing.

Python523 · #8 01-09-2005, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad

This is not a hate-thread, but with the departure of Jagen and Lance disappearing off the earth shouldn't we get one?

I didn't really 'depart', I was more kicked out for wanting to take a vaction from my job. (the day I came back I got on and did some stuff, then the next day my rights were removed, kinda ironic).

My opinion, personally, is that someone who is at a 6-8+ hour offset from majority of the players shouldn't be in charge of administrating them. It just doesn't make sense.

OasaTor_PK · #9 01-09-2005, 02:14 AM

Staff on GK never talk to me, unless I ask them, it would be nice to have some on who arent 8 hours difference then us though O_o;; but I dont care, I only care about the events teams.

Nappa · #10 01-09-2005, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

The other point is that Lance is still Staff on GK so you have an american one.

Wrong. Lance is no longer a Graal Kingdoms administrator. He has lost most of his rights on GK however still has all of his global abilities.

Brad · #11 01-09-2005, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Python523

I didn't really 'depart', I was more kicked out for wanting to take a vaction from my job. (the day I came back I got on and did some stuff, then the next day my rights were removed, kinda ironic).

thats f'd up

and to whoever said Lance is still active:

Cmon now, an hour a week isn't active enough to be a GK admin

I cant really give any ideas of who would be right since I dont really like the current players of GK that much

Im asking you to not give it to one of those girls who runs a kingdom though..they are really really immature and would not suit well as admins

I was honestly thinking someone like Zurk, Nappa, etc. Someone who has a brain and is very active online.

Or me

-- haha I dont think Stefan wants me working for him anymore

umm..yeah well I know none of the admins have enough power to do much now anyways but if you can reinstate power it'd be nice as well..I think I could get my problem solved 10000x quicker if someone had power

dNeonb · #12 01-09-2005, 02:23 AM

How I said in the edit above. Sorry Brad. It was Nappa. I didn't sleep for more then a 3/4 and it's late here I was confused.

Now what I wanted lol

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

What does being an RP Admin have ANYTHING to do with being an Events Master? Beyond the fact that RP is typically serialized into special events, nothing.

Oh, much. Doing events is less work then the RP Admin suggestion I saw in the forums. And if you don't host events you should be RP Admin. No.

Python523 · #13 01-09-2005, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

Oh, much. Doing events is less work then the RP Admin suggestion I saw in the forums. And if you don't host events you should be RP Admin. No.

You don't seem to understand what an RP Admin really is.

GryffonDurime · #14 01-09-2005, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dNeonb

How I said in the edit above. Sorry Brad. It was Nappa. I didn't sleep for more then a 3/4 and it's late here I was confused.

Now what I wanted lol

Oh, much. Doing events is less work then the RP Admin suggestion I saw in the forums. And if you don't host events you should be RP Admin. No.

Hehe- I think you meant to say, "And if you don't host events you shouldn't be RP Admin."

But regardlessly, I don't tell you how to be a GK Admin, please don't presume to know the job of an RP Admin, Bjorn, considering that my current jobs on Graal consist of being the RP Administrator of two very selective servers. I've actually had people IM me, or PM me, out of the blue, and request my services for their server.

With all due respect, I'd say I'm moderatly well qualified to know what an RP Administrator does.

Malinko · #15 01-09-2005, 03:34 AM

I wouldn't mind having GryffonDurime as RP Admin. Give him a shot at least, couldn't be so bad. It would be interesting to see players RPing again on GK.

Vlad, Zero Hour, and I are in Canada and the United States. We may not be able to do much, but at least some things we can.

Kaimetsu · #16 01-09-2005, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

With all due respect, I'd say I'm moderatly well qualified to know what an RP Administrator does.

Um. I could make a server and decide that my 'RP Admin' will have the role of handing out hot dogs to new players. Would that guy then be able to go onto other servers and tell them that he's an authority on their administration hierarchies?

It isn't a fixed role, man. It isn't inherent to the universe. Your activites on other servers are irrelevant here.

Sam · #17 01-09-2005, 04:04 AM

Fact is, the currently EM´s are not active at present.
Events for RP fit best into the kingdoms. In addition the kings must become active and have at RP interest. If this is instance, then we will support the kingdom.
We will make further decisions when we see that something happens in the kingdoms!
We still have EM´s (from american continent), but they are not very active (because of their other jobs). Right now we are looking for new EM´s, and hope to choose the right people.

Moonite · #18 01-09-2005, 04:20 AM

Gryff0rn ur now king of Forest so u can Still can Hold ur RP Events

Sildae · #19 01-09-2005, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Python523

My opinion, personally, is that someone who is at a 6-8+ hour offset from majority of the players shouldn't be in charge of administrating them. It just doesn't make sense.

Cyberjoueurs better moves to the US, right?

Splke · #20 01-09-2005, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CaTigus

7.Log everything my staff does...because stefan doesnt log..gk is the way it is now... i know there was bugs before but mainly all the event items out are from corrupt staff members giving them to there friends *caugh* Lance and the hole dustari empire *caugh*

You lost me there, refresh my memory? You know, about this whole caugh and hole thing? Because I don't remember caw being spelt "caugh", and a hole in dustari being around when Lance was.

Wee, rest of it is too horridly writen to read.

GryffonDurime · #21 01-09-2005, 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Um. I could make a server and decide that my 'RP Admin' will have the role of handing out hot dogs to new players. Would that guy then be able to go onto other servers and tell them that he's an authority on their administration hierarchies?

It isn't a fixed role, man. It isn't inherent to the universe. Your activites on other servers are irrelevant here.

Maybe not, but the inherint concept of an Administrator who oversees the processes of the Kingdoms, keeps the delicate ecosystem of Roleplay in check, and helps the kings to establish global guidlines for what is accepted as at least the most basal functions of Roleplay is what we're talking about here, and that is exactly what I have experience in. By that same token, you could make a server, hire a Graphics Admin, and have him be responsible for uploading player's custom heads for them. He's still Administrating something related to Graphics, but the general concept of a Graphics Admin is that they oversee all other Graphics makers for the server and also make content themselves.

Let's not get into a semantics fight, Kai. I can trade blows but I know for sure I can't win a war against you.

And as for, as someone would eventually point out, the supposed conflict of intrests in being the King of Forest, I simply say that Forest's policy has been and shall continue to be objective nuetrality. In Character, our battle is only against those that defile nature. Out of Character, it is only against those that defile RP.

Kaimetsu · #22 01-09-2005, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Maybe not, but the inherint concept of an Administrator who oversees the processes of the Kingdoms, keeps the delicate ecosystem of Roleplay in check, and helps the kings to establish global guidlines for what is accepted as at least the most basal functions of Roleplay is what we're talking about here, and that is exactly what I have experience in

Granted. But having experience within one particular role doesn't give you the authority to say how other people should define their terms. My guy is good at distributing hot dogs, but that's only relevant if viewed relative to a given meaning of 'RP Admin'. My point is simply that there's no absolute definition; it means whatever the manager wants it to mean.

Now, certainly you can argue that the role of RP Admin doesn't inherently involve holding events, but your miscellaneous experience isn't a factor in that. As you have apparently recognised, it's just a matter of semantics.

Zero Hour · #23 01-09-2005, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Brad

Think we can get an American admin? I am kind of sick of the foreigners who don't understand alot of the things I try to speak to them about.

Ah, please repeat that in Canadian; I don't speak American!

Hehe (;

Admins · #24 01-09-2005, 06:43 AM

Staff must be trustable, and active. I don't know why so many admins come from Germany, Sweden, Netherlands, England, Irland. One reason might be that they have it easier to contact us, because of the time. But we also had good admins from US, Canada and Australia before, it's just temporary I guess. If there are talented and active players who want to help their kingdom or want to help for events then contact your king/queen or the Events team. Community lives by their members contributing to it.

Zurkiba · #25 01-09-2005, 09:10 AM

I've never been a big fan of having an RP Admin as a kingdom leader. I just feel like that it could add conflicting interests later on.

None the less, an RP Admin is needed and that roleplaying admin -has- to know how to roleplay (unlike the current leaders)

CaTigus · #26 01-09-2005, 06:09 PM

I think we should just make one of our current staff an RP Moderator. If players are willing to learn how to RP, They should be able to be taught. Does it matter if the Admin is located in Germany or America? I don't think that is a major issue, You can still understand they point they are trying to get accross when they tell you something. It's odd that such a topic was brought up.

Nappa · #27 01-09-2005, 06:11 PM

Just because an admin from germany can tell you to do something doesn't qualify them to be an RP admin. To me, noone currently on staff is ready for a position like that yet.

GryffonDurime · #28 01-09-2005, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CaTigus

I think we should just make one of our current staff an RP Moderator. If players are willing to learn how to RP, They should be able to be taught. Does it matter if the Admin is located in Germany or America? I don't think that is a major issue, You can still understand they point they are trying to get accross when they tell you something. It's odd that such a topic was brought up.

The problem being that there is no one currently on 2k2's payroll qualified to be an RP Admin, save Lance. And he's iffy (payroll thing, not the qualification matter),

protagonist · #29 01-09-2005, 08:07 PM

*shrug*

I could help out, were I asked.

Sildae · #30 01-09-2005, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by protagonist

*shrug*

I could help out, were I asked.

To whom does that not apply?

Zurkiba · #31 01-09-2005, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by CaTigus

I think we should just make one of our current staff an RP Moderator. If players are willing to learn how to RP, They should be able to be taught. Does it matter if the Admin is located in Germany or America? I don't think that is a major issue, You can still understand they point they are trying to get accross when they tell you something. It's odd that such a topic was brought up.

I think if that happens then nothing will actually come from it except a current staff member gets a new position.

No offense to the current staff, but the majority of them are newcomers to Graal and/or Roleplaying.

Players are willing to learn, but if there is no teacher then there is no student. Personally, I dont understand how Graal Kingdoms lost it's ability to roleplay

Mitch · #32 01-12-2005, 09:22 AM

It is very awkward how all admins hired on Graal Kingdoms are foreign. I wouldn't mind debating for an American administrator, they should have had one a very long time ago.

Sildae · #33 01-12-2005, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitch

It is very awkward how all admins hired on Graal Kingdoms are foreign.

They are only foreign if you are not French.

ZanderX · #34 01-12-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sildae

They are only foreign if you are not French.

And a fair majority of Graalians aren't French, which makes his statement just fine and dandy.

Nappa · #35 01-12-2005, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zurkiba

Players are willing to learn, but if there is no teacher then there is no student. Personally, I dont understand how Graal Kingdoms lost it's ability to roleplay

Inept leaders who got their positions through popularity contests rather then through skill.