My Unholy Nation Experience

[Crono]

now can people start naming what each person is actually up to? because im lookin at most going "lolwat"

[kia345]

Dama got mad at me for asking why most of his ganis only had 1-2 frames

[Rufus]

Originally Posted by Crono

now can people start naming what each person is actually up to? because im lookin at most going "lolwat"

30% of them are working towards this:

Originally Posted by Absolut_Crono

Halloween content that should be released within the next 2 weeks, in order to allow Halloween to last a few days, in classic UN fashion.

GK has been doing his achievements stuff and ET content with me. As for the rest, I don't know.

[nullify]

Originally Posted by Rufus

GK has been doing his achievements stuff and ET content with me. As for the rest, I don't know.

Whenever someone says "GK" it makes me think of actual activity on Kingdoms. I'm always wrong.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by nullify

activity on Kingdoms

doesn't exist.

[HirakoShinji]

Originally Posted by Crono

doesn't exist.

Anymore.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by HirakoShinji

Anymore.

thus the present tense.

[HirakoShinji]

Originally Posted by Crono

thus the present tense.

Yupp.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by HirakoShinji

Yupp.

My post implied that there once was an active Kingdoms, making your "Anymore" post useless. Unless pointing out the obvious is your thing, then nvm.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by Crono

doesn't exist.

Careful, you'll get banned from their subforums!

[HirakoShinji]

Oh gorshness....
Yes, pointing out the obvious is like having an orgasm for me.

[Mark Sir Link]

Are you serious? These guys are allowed to manage a Classic Tab server?



Luca literally has no class, and after I read that post I replied saying

"Shame they won't do the same with you."

My post got deleted, his remains. This is just disgusting, staff are allowed to harass and provoke players, but players can't do the same to staff?

This is extremely ridiculous.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

Are you serious? These guys are allowed to manage a Classic Tab server?



Luca literally has no class, and after I read that post I replied saying

"Shame they won't do the same with you."

My post got deleted, his remains. This is just disgusting, staff are allowed to harass and provoke players, but players can't do the same to staff?

This is extremely ridiculous.

Just like the official Graal forums!

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Just like the official Graal forums!

I know right?

[SwimChao]

I think it's a generalization to say that all of UN's staff can do that. The truth is, plenty of staff get in trouble for it. I don't know what lets Luca slip through the cracks and make comments like that, though.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by SwimChao

I think it's a generalization to say that all of UN's staff can do that. The truth is, plenty of staff get in trouble for it. I don't know what lets Luca slip through the cracks and make comments like that, though.

Power trip?

[SwimChao]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Power trip?

Something along those lines, I guess. I won't speculate.

I know it seems to me that he's been getting away with a lot since GK promoted him.

[MysticX2X]

My words on this forum and the general productivity of UN doesn't mandate any retort from me.

Funny thing is that he says that after disappearing for a week without notice

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by SwimChao

I know it seems to me that he's been getting away with a lot since GK promoted him.

Many people get away with too many things for too many different reasons (most of them being of a negative nature). The screenshot'ed comment involving Luca, in fairness, is rather tame by historical comparison. This has long been the case in general, and, while certainly noticeable on UN the problem is certainly not unique to UN.

The fact of the matter is: How much respect/professionalism/accountability/etc. can any of use really expect on Graal? (Note I am not asking how much we probably should expect, which is a whole different issue altogether).

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Cloven

Many people get away with too many things for too many different reasons (most of them being of a negative nature). The screenshot'ed comment involving Luca, in fairness, is rather tame by historical comparison. This has long been the case in general, and, while certainly noticeable on UN the problem is certainly not unique to UN.

The fact of the matter is: How much respect/professionalism/accountability/etc. can any of use really expect on Graal? (Note I am not asking how much we probably should expect, which is a whole different issue altogether).

while we may not expect it from many server staff, i'd think most expect a higher level of maturity from the PWA who are asked to solve these immature server staff problems

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Hiro

while we may not expect it from many server staff, i'd think most expect a higher level of maturity from the PWA who are asked to solve these immature server staff problems

Has anyone even PMed them about it? You're not going to get anything out of threads like this you know.

[SlikRick]

Originally Posted by Hiro

while we may not expect it from many server staff, i'd think most expect a higher level of maturity from the PWA who are asked to solve these immature server staff problems

Why is it PWA's problem to deal with staff issues? It is well within Cron-Star's power to remove and correct these staff issues.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by SlikRick

Why is it PWA's problem to deal with staff issues? It is well within Cron-Star's power to remove and correct these staff issues.

It is their problem if Cron-star sits and lets the problem fester.

[SlikRick]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

It is their problem if Cron-star sits and lets the problem fester.

No that does not mean PWA has to step in. They could easily just contact Cron by himself in a PM, Forum message or other form of communication, telling him that he needs to get his staff under control or they will step in.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by SlikRick

No that does not mean PWA has to step in. They could easily just contact Cron by himself in a PM, Forum message or other form of communication, telling him that he needs to get his staff under control or they will step in.

Just from pure observation this problem has been for a small while. I agree they should give him the first and final warning about this predicament.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

Just from pure observation this problem has been for a small while. I agree they should give him the first and final warning about this predicament.

What makes you think that they haven't done that yet? Usually there is a lot more things going on behind the scenes than what players think.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

What makes you think that they haven't done that yet? Usually there is a lot more things going on behind the scenes than what players think.

This is graal, If you think there's more deph to their procedures than "Hey you need to straighten up" "k." than sure There's a lot more than I think going on behind the scenes other than non important jibberish.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

Usually there is a lot more things going on behind the scenes than what players think.

Usually that's stupid and deprives the players of the needed invisible hand that should exist in management of an online community, particularly the one that is player run at the lower levels.

[xXziroXx]

Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama

This is graal, If you think there's more deph to their procedures than "Hey you need to straighten up" "k." than sure There's a lot more than I think going on behind the scenes other than non important jibberish.

I was around during Maloria's mess in 2005 that Houdini tried cleaning up, Clash's removal on Valikorlia and don't even get me started on all the things I was around for during my time on Zodiac before, during and after being Manager.

That experience tells me that there is a hell of a lot more things going on than what people think.

[Fulg0reSama]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

I was around during Maloria's mess in 2005 that Houdini tried cleaning up, Clash's removal on Valikorlia and don't even get me started on all the things I was around for during my time on Zodiac before, during and after being Manager.

That experience tells me that there is a hell of a lot more things going on than what people think.

I've got experience in the RC and dealing of people too. Maybe our experiences differ but when you boil it right down there's not as much to it as you would like to believe. It's all purely decision based on both ends, maybe some more complex than others but it's all the same.

[Mark Sir Link]

I can't understand anyone who says Luca is doing a terrible job but Absolut_Crono is doing fine.

Isn't Absolut_Crono Luca's boss? Can't he like, remove him?

[kia345]

But then who will make the colorful particle effects and plant them in TC?

[fowlplay4]

Originally Posted by kia345

But then who will make the colorful particle effects and plant them in TC?

Probably Yen, can't go wrong with some rainbow script influence on a server with a exploitable playercount.

[Imperialistic]

Calani playing this role as "Luca" isn't working out so much.

[Mark Sir Link]

apparently UN's management is now attempting to demonize me or something since out of the blue I am being harassed by their pals about what they've been "told by crono, luca, and khyber"

they should do a better job though and not tell players **** like "CakeDogs and PresentCats" was an event I made. I mean, come on guys, if you want to make me look like the person who doesn't/didn't do work or only output poor quality work, you could do it much better than that.

I haven't really called Luca's ability into question but how is that 15 triggeraction per sword swing working out for you, pal?

EDIT: More on that, I find it odd that someone who would code something like that to begin with is the head of all development on UN to begin with. The fact that he added it and then left it there when players were suffering tremendous lag issues whenever they were hit by a sword is even worse.

[jorollychu]

kevin if someone brought up your history on other servers they wouldnt even need to make things up about u

[Mark Sir Link]

This whole Halloween world event is a joke, and how the Manager and Dev Manager of UN believe this work to be of an acceptable standard is pretty indicative of their inability.

The whole Pumpkin Carving Contest was awful, there was nearly a 2 week submission time for entry and about 20 minutes in which to vote, and from what I understand the winners haven't even gotten prizes since the management has changed their mind.

I'm not sure how it's even legal that this Pumpkin Flashbang requires players to spend in game currency to disable. Really? A bright white flash on their screen that can be spammed by players working together? Graal might want to add a warning for epileptics since the only way to disable it is to spend time playing and potentially running the risk of exposure to it.

Zombie infection - maybe the worse release so far, released without any sort of consideration for what it might effect (ruined events like Typido and a few others) and doesn't even work well, the triggeraction seems to be put about .1 tiles away from the player so unless you're right on top of your target, it doesn't work.


The management has certainly risen to the occasion of showing how inept they are, I can only hope the PWA might actually stop ignoring the problems and do something.

[jorollychu]

Originally Posted by Mark Sir Link

The management has certainly risen to the occasion of showing how inept they are, I can only hope the PWA might actually stop ignoring the problems and do something.

Haha good luck with that buddy. The PWA is completely aware of what's wrong with UN and chooses to ignore it. Ben used to openly discuss the problems with UN management, but as soon as he became a junior PWA he suddenly became oblivious to what's going on over there? I find that hard to believe and think his relationship with Luca is more likely to be the cause of his inaction.

[MysticX2X]

Has anyone submitted a formal complaint yet, or what.

[BigBear3]

Shouldn't this be better than a formal complaint?