Request: Balancing AP Pirces and Handgun.

[Akoalin]

The handgun could be made less lame by making it shoot slower.
The AP Pirces need damage reduction and less spread.
Shotgun might also need to be weakened...

[Bl0nkt]

All in favor say Aye. Aye.

[someonesomewhere]

Aye.

[juice188]

Aye.
But don't just slow the handgun down, reduce its damage OR get rid of the spread

[Huwajux]

I feared this day would come.
*Slaps Akoalin*
*Hides in bomb shelter*

[Akoalin]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

*Slaps Akoalin*

EAT YER OWN MEDICINE *fires ap pirces at Huwajux and loads them with explosives. tosses them in the bomb shelter.

[Wind_Master]

u guys really need 2 stop complaining....every gun needs 2 b fixed dont just point out the 1's that u get owned by the most....zzzzzz

[Akoalin]

Originally Posted by Wind_Master

u guys really need 2 stop complaining....every gun needs 2 b fixed dont just point out the 1's that u get owned by the most....zzzzzz

Umm... lamed. AP Pirces is almost impossible to dodge because it spreads like a shotgun, the bullets do too much damage, and as commandoes/scouts you can dodge all of my fricken attacks. You're still a conceited ignoranus.

[Wind_Master]

Originally Posted by Akoalin

Umm... lamed. AP Pirces is almost impossible to dodge because it spreads like a shotgun, the bullets do too much damage, and as commandoes/scouts you can dodge all of my fricken attacks. You're still a conceited ignoranus.

i can dodge them just fine...why cant u?? zzzzzz

[Akoalin]

Originally Posted by Wind_Master

i can dodge them just fine...why cant u?? zzzzzz

Because
1.) I usually use slow classes.
2.) SHUT THE HELL UP WITH THE Z'S IT'S PISSING ME OFF >.< (excuse my language)

[someonesomewhere]

Originally Posted by Akoalin

Umm... lamed. AP Pirces is almost impossible to dodge because it spreads like a shotgun, the bullets do too much damage, and as commandoes/scouts you can dodge all of my fricken attacks. You're still a conceited ignoranus.

What he says really explains why Jin. Just look at it and think a little more.

[Wind_Master]

Originally Posted by Akoalin

Because
1.) I usually use slow classes.
2.) SHUT THE HELL UP WITH THE Z'S IT'S PISSING ME OFF >.< (excuse my language)

stop ur crying.......and its not cause u pick slow classes its cause ur just bad

[Akoalin]

Originally Posted by Wind_Master

stop ur crying.......and its not cause u pick slow classes its cause ur just bad

SHUT THE HELL UP MAN. QUIT ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW HOW WELL I FIGHT! YOU'VE NEVER FOUGHT ME. YOU THINK YOU'RE GOOD?! YOU THINK AP PIRCES REQUIRE 'SKILL' TO USE?! WOW I CAN HIT YOU WITH A GUN THAT HAS A 20 FOOT RADIUS I MUST BE GOOD. Oh, and
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[Wind_Master]

Originally Posted by Akoalin

SHUT THE HELL UP MAN. QUIT ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW HOW WELL I FIGHT! YOU'VE NEVER FOUGHT ME. YOU THINK YOU'RE GOOD?! YOU THINK AP PIRCES REQUIRE 'SKILL' TO USE?! WOW I CAN HIT YOU WITH A GUN THAT HAS A 20 FOOT RADIUS I MUST BE GOOD. Oh, and
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dude r u having ur period 2day??? wow quit complaining....apps r a little cheap but so is every weapon

[Akoalin]

Originally Posted by Wind_Master

but so is every weapon

That makes no sense at ALL.

[Wind_Master]

Originally Posted by Akoalin

That makes no sense at ALL.

umm...ya it does...every weapon is lame in its own way......zzzzzzzzz

[Akoalin]

Here goes Jin again, flaming and using his noob logic.

[Wind_Master]

Originally Posted by Akoalin

Here goes Jin again, flaming and using his noob logic.

if u think im a newb than i guess every1 is cause i was the best for like a month...than i quit cause the game got 2 ez than i came back and ace was the best and now im second best...so how am i a newb? (iono what happened 2 stormy he quit or sumthin)

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Akoalin

Here goes Jin again, flaming and using his noob logic.

Just make sure you don't forget Firebox. Or else...



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[Crono]

AP Pirces are fine as they are now. It's not as easy as it looks to own with them man.

[Wind_Master]

Originally Posted by Gerami

AP Pirces are fine as they are now. It's not as easy as it looks to own with them man.

ty man....and protoganist or w/e FireBoX was good and should b remembered...u suck so ull never be remember....

[juice188]

Heres a note for Akolain and Jin (Lemme say i like u both so dont get pissed when u read this)
**** , Almost every thread you guys are BOTH in you are fighting, keep the junk out of our threads because you always reer us off the subject and then stefan doesnt even bother to look even if it is a good idea, my god you guys are like such girls at times X_X

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Wind_Master

ty man....and protoganist or w/e FireBoX was good and should b remembered...u suck so ull never be remember....

You're right. The numerous people who keep messaging me asking for scripts or if I can come inspect their server will never remember me. Especially since I quit PWA two months ago.

[Akoalin]

Originally Posted by Wind_Master

u guys really need 2 stop complaining....every gun needs 2 b fixed dont just point out the 1's that u get owned by the most....zzzzzz

He starts it EVERY time with his rudeness. I don't even care that he exists, I'm just defending myself.

[anubis_wing]

Ok yah im new to the whole forum thing but who ever think apps is to cheap yer a nooob it's 5 dmg a bullet not like it's 15 dmg a bullet like hand gun........well maybe not that much but u get the point handgun is fast hard to dodge apps are about half as fast and do about 10 dmg less and if u think makin an arguement about oh i pick slow classes so nyah everyone else has to be slower well grow some balls and learn to play and jin is cool don't bug the jin master..........

[Wind_Master]

Originally Posted by anubis_wing

Ok yah im new to the whole forum thing but who ever think apps is to cheap yer a nooob it's 5 dmg a bullet not like it's 15 dmg a bullet like hand gun........well maybe not that much but u get the point handgun is fast hard to dodge apps are about half as fast and do about 10 dmg less and if u think makin an arguement about oh i pick slow classes so nyah everyone else has to be slower well grow some balls and learn to play and jin is cool don't bug the jin master..........

ty man...THATS MY BOY!!

but ya neway ako just grow up...im starting 2 think ur like a 6 yr old on the fourums.

[Akoalin]

Pffft. He's only defending you because I owned him on deathmatch earlier today

[Wind_Master]

Originally Posted by Akoalin

Pffft. He's only defending you because I owned him on deathmatch earlier today

ok i REALLY REALLY doubt that but u wanna try me?

[protagonist]

God, this discussion rivals CS in retardity.

[Magadal]

Originally Posted by Wind_Master

stop ur crying.......and its not cause u pick slow classes its cause ur just bad

thats wrong...u only can dodge ap pirces with commando or scout....maybe with light infantry...but with no other class

[Zulu15]

Aye, get back on subject please, Ako, no matter how much you argue with them they will NEVER even consider your point of view because they are way too stuborn, and Jin, the same goes to you, no matter what you say, neither I nor Ako will listen to what you have to say, dont repeat what you've been saying in your last 200 posts, we alredy know you own or whatever we dont give a damn about that, WE NEVER, I REPEAT, NEVER MENTIONED YOUR SKILL.

And I dare you to follow this post with, "go on zone me pwn u", I know I suck, and I hope I continue to suck for the rest of my Zone life, makes my gameplay more interesting when allot of people suck, we can do fun and silly things like go in Squads and stuff.

Oh also um, the Apps do 10 damage a bullet not 5 like somebody said, the apps do more damage than the handgun up close.

[anubis_wing]

Yah apps do 5 dmg a bullet if it was 10 2 point blank shots trials would be dead but its 5 dmg a bullet which is 20 dmg like ripper 2 bullets of that = 4 bullets of apps and if not then well yah ne ways..........apps dun spread much either not lke hand gun to close and they all hit yah to far and there harder to dodge then grandma huggin u when u go and see her

[Wind_Master]

Originally Posted by Magadal

thats wrong...u only can dodge ap pirces with commando or scout....maybe with light infantry...but with no other class

dude.....does it look like i really care??? pick scout or commando than......wow ako just always has sumthin 2 cry about

[Bl0nkt]

Originally Posted by protagonist

God, this discussion rivals CS in retardity.

I don't see in any way how Akoalin can be recognized as a CS player. He makes sense when he types and he doesn't ramble on about how everyone is lesser than him (not to take any specific names-- Jin).

Appirces:
In my opinion the best handgun in Zone so far, use it because it comes in handy alot of times. Does a pretty good damage and is easier to get hits with then other guns.
My favorite gun. Two rounds from each gun, in a shotgun spray manner. 8 Shots dual weilded until need for reload. Moderately high damage, high manevurability.

That's straight from the Zone guide. Read up and let's take a look at another weapon's statistics.

Smg:
A good weapon, shoots fast and does a fairly good damage. Good for using it with marine with the speed.
25 round automatic rifle, fairly straight but has spray 100 pixels or so out. Offers less manevurability than the kv24, but is faster.

Here's my secondary weapon (The thread was old and the Blue Rifle wasn't in it).

I notice that my SMG has no spread at all. I also notice it does less damage than a single appirce bullet (There are times when I'm hit by all the appirce's bullets and it does 60 damage. So 4 bullets at once; 60 divided by 4. You get 15). Also, using the tap method with an SMG is useless considering it's easy for an enemy to dodge, and even if they are hit, it would only do 8 - 10 damage. Appirces however allow you to use the tap method (increasing your chance to dodge bullets by shooting and running to a safe location all while your shotgun spread handguns do the aiming for you) and all at the same time doing moderately high damage (which is straight from the mouth of one of the creaters).

I rest my case.
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[protagonist]

Originally Posted by Bl0nkt

I don't see in any way how Akoalin can be recognized as a CS player. He makes sense when he types and he doesn't ramble on about how everyone is lesser than him (not to take any specific names-- Jin).

Yeah, but the discussion is so much like CS discussion. It's not really an attack at anyone, it's just the fact that some folks are taking it personally.

[Magadal]

Originally Posted by Wind_Master

dude.....does it look like i really care??? pick scout or commando than......wow ako just always has sumthin 2 cry about

we are all crying about u, because u are so stupid

[Huwajux]

I wouldn't mind appirces being weakened if scout was brought to iricia so I could use Ap rippers.

[someonesomewhere]

Originally Posted by Huwajux

if scout was brought to iricia so I could use Ap rippers.

Post that on my thread then
And about Apps damage:
It's actually more around what Zulu said, 9-10 damage, because after getting hit with one bullet, I had 91 health left.

[jkool666]

As its said in a different post, no gun can be lame providing everyone has the right to use it. Anyone can use Appirces if they wanted to, so it can't be lame.
Also I don't understand how people can find it hard to dodge... When i pick marine (much slower then commando or scout) I do fine at dodging the shots. The bullets can't go very far either, so stand back. As for handgun, I agree I think its lame, but thinking about how it shoots its quite easy to dodge. It has a very wide shot but only 3 bullets so just stand in the middle of those bullets and your fine.

[Wind_Master]

Originally Posted by Magadal

we are all crying about u, because u are so stupid

oh ya im stupid....ya thats why all u newbs r crying about how u get owned by apps......id own u with ne gun dude....id own u with a gravitron