Modem Tapping?

[Splke]

Originally Posted by Nappa

What if we are wireless ?

Hopeless, and pointless.

[Skyld]

Walk out of range of your access point, and then wander back in as if you never lost the connection.

[Nappa]

Originally Posted by Splke

Hopeless, and pointless.

A matter of opinion.

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Skyld

Walk out of range of your access point, and then wander back in as if you never lost the connection.

Wow, you really know how to preserve energy.

Originally Posted by Spark910

Hell, there is a device made that has a switch on your ethernet cord so you can do it while you play without having to pull it directly out of your modem/router. You can make it at home for little, or pay some random joe to make it for you (As most young kids opt for )

I will make and sell these to anyone who is interested for a quite unreasonable price.




Seriously.

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by Lance

It isn't a viable option for everyone, though. Some people are stuck behind routers and cannot set up port forwarding for those UDP packets

Yes. But these are a minority.

The movement would be removed, sure. However, I already mentioned the problems with basing the safeguard on the actual speed

And I already responded thereto :-p

I'll attempt to clarify: Yes, the movement is a problem. However, I see it more as a symptom of another, perhaps more important problem

Which is what? Disconnected cables, high-frequency packets? How are either of these, in themselves, problems?

It certainly would be nice, yes. Unfortunately, such is not the case, so it remains unfeasible

Such could be the case. We both know that the best way to get Stefan to add something awesome is to find something that appeals to him and show him that it requires your suggestion to be added

Pretty much anything the client can do, such as setting ganis, setting clothes properties, firing weapons, or sending triggeractions

Mostly not too big a deal, as long as the server does some simple checking.

A question occurred to me: If you sent such a packet that told the server you moved somewhere else, would it display this movement on your screen?

I don't know exactly how Graal works, internally. But a suitably skilled user could always edit his client such that it does.

My apologies; I chose a poor word there. 'Oversight' would be more appropriate.

Well, it is still not something that you can simply "remove".

[HoudiniMan]

Originally Posted by Nappa

What if we are wireless ?

My handy dandy slicing dicing universal tool will work on your router's power cord also!

[Brandon]

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

My handy dandy slicing dicing universal tool will work on your router's power cord also!

Mind the electrical shock, though. It's killer.

[Nappa]

Originally Posted by HoudiniMan

My handy dandy slicing dicing universal tool will work on your router's power cord also!

Awesome!

[Spark910]

Originally Posted by Nappa

Awesome!

No buy my mini-microwave, and you can slow your connect down AND cook min-snacks inside

[HoudiniMan]

Originally Posted by Spark910

No buy my mini-microwave, and you can slow your connect down AND cook min-snacks inside

Uh oh... that's good...

Time to release the CLASSIC version!

(Thanks Coke!)

[Snakeandy7]

Please stick to the thread topic.

[Admins]

Possible ways for fixing abusing of modem tapping:

1. On the serverside when receiving the "actionattack" trigger save the time and next time check if the time difference is bigger than a certain amount to prevent sending tons of triggers at once. The time difference depends on the weapon that is currently used, but for modem tapping even a small time difference is enough. Something like this:

NPC Code:

---

if (actionserverattack) {

  lastattacktime = strtofloat(#s(lastattack));

  if (timevar2-lastattacktime in |0,0.2|)

    return;

  setstring lastattack,#v(timevar2); // saved in players account



  // normal attack code

  ...

}

---

2. An additional check could be done by triggering the client or setting a client string to tell the client that he/she is allowed to send another trigger or to send more projectiles, this is e.g. used on Zone.

3. We will add more events and functions in the future for controlling projectiles better

[Snakeandy7]

Haha, Woot thank you <3

[Shaun]

Stefan used to script almost everything.

He doesn't anymore?

[ApothiX]

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

I don't know exactly how Graal works, internally. But a suitably skilled user could always edit his client such that it does.

I don't think it would display your new position on your screen if you simply sent the packets. Most trainers source code I have seen simply edit the memory address for the player's x and y coordinates, and leave it up to the Graal Client to send the packets with the new position, so the memory editing is probably vital to the whole 'warping around' action.

[LoadedSwift]

Originally Posted by Snakeandy7

It works on Era now. People can kill people in 1 hit because of it :[

Actually, It's taking advantage of the serverside hurt system(Might as well get some good out of it if we're gonna have it). It basically shoots every bullet shot while you were "disconnected"(The period in which your ethernet cord was unplugged), and loads them at the same time(when the server loads what you did).

It's always worked on Era, It's just more effective with the serverside hurt scripts.

On another note, Are the serverside hurt scripts really necessary? They have about a 1 second delay on the bullets.

[Curt1zzle]

Originally Posted by Nappa

What if we are wireless ?

I'll give you a nice deal on some tin foil.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by LoadedSwift

On another note, Are the serverside hurt scripts really necessary?

If you want security, they are.

They have about a 1 second delay on the bullets.

That's a bit of an overestimation, there.

[Evil_Trunks]

You also have to consider what the players want.

Many people dislike the serverside hit detection on classic as well. (at least it seemed that way when I was last on)

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Evil_Trunks

You also have to consider what the players want.

Many people dislike the serverside hit detection on classic as well. (at least it seemed that way when I was last on)

I was unaware that the players wanted trainer users running rampantly across the Graal servers.

[Evil_Trunks]

On Era, you can still easily use that well known memory program to give yourself rapid fire and no player freeze delay when firing guns.

It's actually a lot easier to get unlimited ammo on there now.

[Lance]

Originally Posted by Evil_Trunks

On Era, you can still easily use that well known memory program to give yourself rapid fire and no player freeze delay when firing guns.

It's actually a lot easier to get unlimited ammo on there now.

Then their system was not very well thought-out, now was it? What does that have to do with serverside hit detection, anyway?

[Admins]

Shooting many projectiles, we are working on a way to easily detect that

[googleman]

So please tell me, how did the modem standby get carried over from Halo 2 into Graal?

[WanDaMan]

It's been on Graal for atleast a good year or so but it's only now being used like it's going out of fashion

[Mitch]

No effense, but I would not call unplugging your modem, "modem tapping". That's like saying someone who uses trainers is a leet hacker. In my opinion what people do these days to get an advantage in a game, specifically graal is ridiculous.

[jake13jake]

Graal needs lag tolerance settings. I'll wait for responses before I expand.