Tachi

[Frankie]

can you be any less original when adding a new gang to Era? seriously.

oh, and let me guess. their gang weapon is somewhere along the lines of a katana or shuriken. (correct me if I'm wrong.)

[Crono]

In their defense it would technically be a "revival".

[Shadow5596321]

Originally Posted by Crono

In their defense it would technically be a "revival#55".

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[The_Blue_Cracka]

Bratski Krug was of the coolest gang concepts.

What happened with that?

[kia345]

Originally Posted by The_Blue_Cracka

Bratski Krug was of the coolest gang concepts.

What happened with that?

Wasn't BK an impossible combination of the mafia and communists?

[Shotoo2]

Originally Posted by kia345

Wasn't BK an impossible combination of the mafia and communists?

The original concept was based on the Russian Mob. No idea what Maverick did with it when he actually got the gang though.

[salesman]

The Hustlas was a pretty cool idea too

[LordSquirt]

Originally Posted by Frankie

can you be any less original when adding a new gang to Era? seriously.

oh, and let me guess. their gang weapon is somewhere along the lines of a katana or shuriken. (correct me if I'm wrong.)

They have a gun called the Souizen

[fragman85]

Russian Mafia is feared more than Italians oO

[DazJenova]

Instead of making a whole new gang then watching it fail i decided to revive Tachi as it was allready on the server and it's acually turned out really well.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by DazJenova

Instead of making a whole new gang then watching it fail i decided to revive Tachi.

reviving an old gang doesn't mean it's going to last. Tachi has been revived quite a few times in the past and not once has it lasted for more than a few months. same deal with Morano Family. I don't understand how you could possibly justify the revival of Tachi by saying, "a whole new gang would fail."

if it's not BB, BH, or LC, it will fail. you might as well be original and give someone a few weeks of glory with their own gang idea instead of reusing ideas of the past.

[DazJenova]

We'll see Frankie, after all you or Icarus made BK and it failed miserable so i don't really think you have a stand in this.

[MontyPython]

Originally Posted by DazJenova

We'll see Frankie, after all you or Icarus made BK and it failed miserable so i don't really think you have a stand in this.

I love how insults start getting thrown out.

If we want to be really realistic, Daz, all the gangs are totally and utterly failing. There's so many times when you go online, and not a single person is on their gang tag. Why? Because there's absolutely no point.

Can you raid? Yeah. You can. Is it fun? I've never found it especially fun, but that's not the point. You need to give gangs a reason to exist. You need to make gang points actually DO something. Gang activities like raiding need a purpose beyond "We raid because we raid."

You cannot just keep introducing new gangs or reviving old gangs and expecting it to somehow fix the system and add player interest. It adds a very small spark of "new" to the server (omg new gun! ew @ the gfx but still new! omg new hat!), which quickly fades in a matter of a week or two, and then you've still got a terribly broken system.

I'm not blaming you for this, it's been happening for a long time. But the gang system itself is the problem, not bringing back old gangs or bringing in new gangs. I'd like to see all the old gangs destroyed, and introduce a system like Sale's or Geo's where everyone has a chance to start gangs, and where points/raiding/anything gang related actually has purpose aside from buffing up your useless k/d stats or allowing you to mass inane drivel such as "WE GOT UR BASE BB U ***S LOLOLOL".

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by MontyPython

I love how insults start getting thrown out.

If we want to be really realistic, Daz, all the gangs are totally and utterly failing. There's so many times when you go online, and not a single person is on their gang tag. Why? Because there's absolutely no point.

Can you raid? Yeah. You can. Is it fun? I've never found it especially fun, but that's not the point. You need to give gangs a reason to exist. You need to make gang points actually DO something. Gang activities like raiding need a purpose beyond "We raid because we raid."

You cannot just keep introducing new gangs or reviving old gangs and expecting it to somehow fix the system and add player interest. It adds a very small spark of "new" to the server (omg new gun! ew @ the gfx but still new! omg new hat!), which quickly fades in a matter of a week or two, and then you've still got a terribly broken system.

I'm not blaming you for this, it's been happening for a long time. But the gang system itself is the problem, not bringing back old gangs or bringing in new gangs. I'd like to see all the old gangs destroyed, and introduce a system like Sale's or Geo's where everyone has a chance to start gangs, and where points/raiding/anything gang related actually has purpose aside from buffing up your useless k/d stats or allowing you to mass inane drivel such as "WE GOT UR BASE BB U ***S LOLOLOL".

exactly!

new gangs are fun and cool for a few weeks and after that nobody cares about it anymore. people will quit their current gangs to join the newly uploaded gang just because everyone's raving over it, but in a matter of weeks all those members will branch off back to their old gangs, which is why new gangs usually fail.

and yes, raiding is useless. if someone raids your base, all you have to do is leave. sure the other gang can talk **** over mass messages, but nobody cares. bragging rights isn't enough for players these days. Gareth is on the right track, but I wouldn't exactly do it that way.

[salesman]

I've got a really neat gang idea in store...something that would make gangs fun again. It still needs to be discussed, but hopefully we can use it.

I also need to figure out my priorities before I get started on such a huge project. Trying to juggle too many things at once =S