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Old 12-24-2008, 07:30 PM
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Patrolling Santa

Will he be making an appearance this year?
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Old 12-24-2008, 07:43 PM
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I mapped his route out last year.
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Old 12-24-2008, 07:51 PM
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He's been walking around for the past two days, dropping dias, cookies, coal, and an Ice Sword, Shield of Frost (both picked up by Spiker), and a Belt of Crystal Heart, which I believe John got. Someone said he's been dropping IDs, FIDs, and Ice Shields too.
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Old 12-24-2008, 07:59 PM
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He's been walking around for the past two days, dropping dias, cookies, coal, and an Ice Sword, Shield of Frost (both picked up by Spiker), and a Belt of Crystal Heart, which I believe John got. Someone said he's been dropping IDs, FIDs, and Ice Shields too.
Really? I've never seen him. Last year everyone was following him non-stop. This year there's hardly been talk of him.
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Old 12-27-2008, 08:25 AM
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Stephen, you really arent paying attention to what I am responding to at all, which you clearly need to. I was responding to this:


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Really? I've never seen him. Last year everyone was following him non-stop. This year there's hardly been talk of him.
In the context of how Bjorn used the drops that santa had in a way to actually market the event, which Tig didn't. So it had nothing to do with:

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There is no abstract or noble point here to make you angry. You're angry because, firstly, you did not know and therefor could not milk Santa Clause for all he's worth - spending every second you had available on Graal Kingdoms to increase your odds. And secondly because, despite the time you did spend obsessively stalking Santa, you now feel it was wasted.

Santa may not have been the most amazing or original event... but to reiterate my initial point - We're not Bjorn; We're going to release updates regularly.
You're off on some selfcreated tanget about how you think I had a problem with the originality of the event or the odds of getting things. If you haven't noticed im not very bad off because of some long time friends quitting and giving me items and buying RoWs and such for diamonds from you and leveling my wisdom as a source of income. So really your whole argument about me wanting items really is null and void, because I wasn't even talking about that. The point was to say why Xaphan hadn't heard about it and why, when the items are gone, there is no longer a point in following santa. So please, read the context of the previous posts before you go off and make yourself look... well people will make their own opinions... and say something that is completely off base. And to be honest I had fun killing Nate and Essence while people swarmed Santa, so once again, your argument has no basis and you got us into ANOTHER needless argument over something you didnt take the time to research or know. Because if you did, you'd know last year i didnt get anything good, as with this year. So basically, you're wrong.
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Old 12-24-2008, 08:10 PM
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Old 12-24-2008, 10:31 PM
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thats because Tig never really stated his existence on a large scale and never announced it on here, and also didnt say what the drops were like bjorn did last year. Not to mention, not that the drops arent good, but theyre easily 1/20th of the value that happened last year. Like 3 Darkflames, 2 Inferno Daggers, 2 Inferno Swords, 1 Sorc Hammer 1 Might 1 Agi, like 14 fids 28 ids, etc. So its not like there are a ton of things and the small "prizes" this year arent anywhere equal in value to the the year before, so once the good items (that are very limited in amount) are gone, theres no point.
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Old 12-25-2008, 07:10 AM
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thats because Tig never really stated his existence on a large scale and never announced it on here, and also didnt say what the drops were like bjorn did last year. Not to mention, not that the drops arent good, but theyre easily 1/20th of the value that happened last year. Like 3 Darkflames, 2 Inferno Daggers, 2 Inferno Swords, 1 Sorc Hammer 1 Might 1 Agi, like 14 fids 28 ids, etc. So its not like there are a ton of things and the small "prizes" this year arent anywhere equal in value to the the year before, so once the good items (that are very limited in amount) are gone, theres no point.
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Old 12-27-2008, 03:15 AM
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theyre easily 1/20th of the value that happened last year. Like 3 Darkflames, 2 Inferno Daggers, 2 Inferno Swords, 1 Sorc Hammer 1 Might 1 Agi, like 14 fids 28 ids, etc.
Consider for a moment how damaging that is to the already unbalanced economy.

There is no abstract or noble point here to make you angry. You're angry because, firstly, you did not know and therefor could not milk Santa Clause for all he's worth - spending every second you had available on Graal Kingdoms to increase your odds. And secondly because, despite the time you did spend obsessively stalking Santa, you now feel it was wasted.

Santa may not have been the most amazing or original event... but to reiterate my initial point - We're not Bjorn; We're going to release updates regularly.
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Old 12-25-2008, 12:29 AM
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Old 12-25-2008, 01:27 AM
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Christmas hasn't been the same since the gift shop was phased out. At least that guaranteed everyone got something cool. (And moreover, got to have a choice in the matter.) Lance's tree-burning event was pretty awesome, and so was the Christmas dungeon. I even remember Lance raffling off a ton of great prizes, including 6-8 hammers. But recently... man, I dunno. Three cheers for mediocrity, I guess.

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Old 12-25-2008, 02:26 AM
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I think Tig's doing a great job.

Now that I got that out the way; I also think the gift shops were pretty good. It created different "class" of items. And it was fair because everyone could get that stuff and even if they missed out due to being newbies who started after or whatever reason... they could always wait till the next holiday! ^.^

And in case it's a matter of balance...
FYI, a game does not become imbalanced when everyone has the same opportunities. The game becomes imbalanced after everyone benefits from a bug, and the bug is removed so newer players cannot benefit. I hope Tig realizes this is as one of the biggest mistakes the old administration would make.
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Old 12-25-2008, 02:33 AM
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Christmas hasn't been the same since the gift shop was phased out. At least that guaranteed everyone got something cool. (And moreover, got to have a choice in the matter.) Lance's tree-burning event was pretty awesome, and so was the Christmas dungeon. I even remember Lance raffling off a ton of great prizes, including 6-8 hammers. But recently... man, I dunno. Three cheers for mediocrity, I guess.
If you think you have better ideas then you're more than welcome to submit them as I've made clear to everyone.

I don't just slam your faces with a bunch of rare items, and I'm certainly not going to just go raffle off a bunch of hammers. Please try to be understanding.

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And in case it's a matter of balance...
FYI, a game does not become imbalanced when everyone has the same opportunities. The game becomes imbalanced after everyone benefits from a bug, and the bug is removed so newer players cannot benefit. I hope Tig realizes this is as one of the biggest mistakes the old administration would make.
It's not a case of balance, there are other reasons.
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Old 12-25-2008, 03:36 AM
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If you think you have better ideas then you're more than welcome to submit them as I've made clear to everyone.
The problem with that is:

A.) You never ask for anything because you're playing Bjorn's favorite game, dubbing everything as a 'top secret project,' even if it's something you need help with. Sorry, but I can't do work for you if you don't make lists of what you need. And putting developers on assignment is a bad idea, too. If what you ask for is beyond their capability, you're screwed sideways.

B.) I have been tied up with work on another server. One I actually care about because the developers don't keep me in the dark about everything. I know Kingdoms has recently had problems with players leaking information, but that's not my fault. I don't know what to tell you on that. Raising the bar on who you trust with that information might be the only answer, unless you can find a different way of going about asking for things.

C.) You never give a definite answer as to whether any work will be used or not. Again, another thing Bjorn did. And I'm gonna bring this back up even though I know you hate being compared to old managers, because I think you've probably been one of the few we've had so far that's actually interested in communicating with players and getting **** done. But you know, when I get work done, and the only response I get on whether or not we'll be using it is a 'maybe,' I lose all motivation to continue working.

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I don't just slam your faces with a bunch of rare items, and I'm certainly not going to just go raffle off a bunch of hammers. Please try to be understanding.
Yeah, because Kingdoms' economy certainly hasn't been going belly-up like an overfed trout lately. But sure, pump more diamonds into it. That certainly doesn't cause even more inflation. Release more diamonds into the economy, and players raise prices on the rare items they already have. Why? Because they have an excuse to make more diamonds off their sale. They're not stupid. Making rare items more or less available is the only way to control pricing on the player market. And when the values of rare items raise substantially, that costs players time. And too much time spent getting nowhere leads to quitting.
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Old 12-25-2008, 03:56 AM
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But you know, when I get work done, and the only response I get on whether or not we'll be using it is a 'maybe,' I lose all motivation to continue working.

Tig, you should start lying to people and say "If it's good enough."

Apparently this will keep people motivated to do awesome work.
Then you'll have plenty of content you can pick and choose from

As part of this process, you should lie to me and everyone else and say you WONT do what I'm suggesting.
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