Peaceful Mode

[lordbosh]

There are no other servers that have such a system like GK in terms of this "pmode" option. Ring a bell and you can't be touched, you can even stand in the way of doors and block them from people.

The game lost popularity when people could not fight everyone else anymore. And items began to propagate the server that were too overpowered (rings of war, rings of strife, rings of elrond, all event items are unbalanced). Graal is a favorite game to many because you do not need to invest thousands of hours or hundreds of dollars into items to be "good" at it. It was determined on how well you played.

We have "safe zones" like a pub, or a trade house. I feel if we have these safe zones it should be more than enough for Graal Kingdoms. If you want to see people play again, balance the items out and remove Pmode. Kingdoms will war, and there will be things to do again. People will return, I know I would.

[kia345]

Gk's not a PKing server.

What you asking for is the same as Zodiac's osl being made a PK zone.

[jonnyrocks2]

Remove the safe zones...It should be a simple choice, peace or battle.

There is no safe zones for battle -- Period. However, peace is...well obvious.

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by lordbosh

There are no other servers that have such a system like GK in terms of this "pmode" option. Ring a bell and you can't be touched, you can even stand in the way of doors and block them from people.

Hardly any servers have such a big power difference from weak to strong players. On classic, 2 newbies can pk a expert. On gk, 10 newbies wont break the ac of an expert.

Originally Posted by lordbosh

The game lost popularity when people could not fight everyone else anymore. And items began to propagate the server that were too overpowered (rings of war, rings of strife, rings of elrond, all event items are unbalanced). Graal is a favorite game to many because you do not need to invest thousands of hours or hundreds of dollars into items to be "good" at it. It was determined on how well you played.

Is that a problem of war or peacemode? No its a problem of the game mechanics, yet its basically right what you say, but most of the game would quit if you rebalance or reset it. Of course you can say, more people would come if there would be a fresh start, but thats basically only speculation.

Originally Posted by lordbosh

We have "safe zones" like a pub, or a trade house. I feel if we have these safe zones it should be more than enough for Graal Kingdoms. If you want to see people play again, balance the items out and remove Pmode. Kingdoms will war, and there will be things to do again. People will return, I know I would.

Seriously: No. Kingdom would war more often if there was a fair kingdoms mode battle system, maybe kingdoms can seperate ranks in three classes, wisdom, magic, melee or archer, and when entering kmode they get special stats independent of what they wear.
Right now Wars is just 2 lvl 110 bashing 100 lvl 30-40.
Do you want to make the game fun as a newbie slashing game?
Soon everyone except strong players would leave the game or just idle in tradetables or MMT even more often than its already the case.

Thanks for your attention.

- Lux

[Crimson2005]

Make it so you go auto-bmode after level 60 or something. By then you should have decent ac/wc not to worry about getting killed every 5 minutes.

[BigBear3]

Bmode 4 Lyf

[Elizabeth]

Not everyones on Graal Kingdoms intention is to kill everyone in sight, some people role play, and thats why we have Pmode.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

Not everyones on Graal Kingdoms intention is to kill everyone in sight, some people role play, and thats why we have Pmode.

Pking can be a big part in role playing if it has a reason or a story behind it.

[cbk1994]

The problem with getting rid of peaceful mode is that people would kill other people for laughs. For example, my brother got stuck on bmode, and then kicked out of the kingdom. He could not get off of pmode (staff, of course, would not help). He quit because there were like three different level 110 players who followed him and killed him when he was just trying to level in dungeons.

I would tend to agree with a level cap for pmode, 60 or 70 I guess.

[Tigairius]

Originally Posted by cbkbud

I would tend to agree with a level cap for pmode, 60 or 70 I guess.

Not a terrible idea, certainly better than most of the other suggestions.

[Ravenblade1979]

OK scenerio.

Player X has just started playing GK.

*picks stats and class and gender and starts playing*

*gets pk killed*

"What in the hell happened. Why did I get killed?"

*tries again and same thing happens*


see a common theme here. People tend to lame.

[Ziro_of_the_Turks]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

OK scenerio.

Player X has just started playing GK.

*picks stats and class and gender and starts playing*

*gets pk killed*

"What in the hell happened. Why did I get killed?"

*tries again and same thing happens*


see a common theme here. People tend to lame.

these commonly proposed ideas would NOT cause that problem:
1. Forced bmode after a certain level
2. Forced bmode after a certain amount of gameplay time

[BigBear3]

Getting killed would just make you stronger... (or faster. )

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

OK scenerio.

Player X has just started playing GK.

*picks stats and class and gender and starts playing*

*gets pk killed*

"What in the hell happened. Why did I get killed?"

*tries again and same thing happens*


see a common theme here. People tend to lame.

1. Read
2. Think
3. Post

This is how you do raven:
POST LOL POST

And darklux stop crying about demons in trade.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Felix_Xenophobe

1. Read
2. Think
3. Post

This is how you do raven:
POST LOL POST

And darklux stop crying about demons in trade.

Ownedx2

[Darklux]

People tend to get some demons into tradetables, lame idling people and pk all their diamonds out of them... surely some things should be changed.

And what the hell is wrong with people not willing to pk or being pked? Nothing.
If you start pking them for fun after they were forced into warmode, iam sure we will loose even more gamers on gk.

Leave it as it is, maybe introduce a new mode for kingdom battles.

[Ravenblade1979]

Actually Darklux is right. With so many lamers you would end up losing more people then you would gain. They are trying to get new people to join not have them say "screw this". So what older players would come back but then they would get bored and just leave again.

So why do you want mandatory bmode...ah I know why. To lame people and laugh in their faces calling them noobs. If you have nothing better to do in this game then lame and call ppl noobs then its time to move on because you apparently are sooo good at this game that you need 20 summoned monsters to kill for you.

[Crimson2005]

tl;dr

[Elizabeth]

yeah, it gets pretty annoying when your in trade and all of a sudden a guy brings a million and one cyclops into trade

[Crimson2005]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth

yeah, it gets pretty annoying when your in trade and all of a sudden a guy brings a million and one cyclops into trade

DON'T IDLE IN TRADE THEN *****

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Crimson2005

DON'T IDLE IN TRADE THEN *****

Exactly. "Someone" (afk) did it to jeffga101 last night.

[jonnyrocks2]

Hey Ravenblade, that argument in regards to getting lamed, untrue. You usually start in peace mode anyway, unless if you get hit by some kind of bug or something?

Still, remove the safe zones, Trades could remain as a safe zone, but I don't think anywhere else should be a safe zone, period. However, we need something to keep people from idling.

[cyan3]

Originally Posted by jonnyrocks2

Hey Ravenblade, that argument in regards to getting lamed, untrue. You usually start in peace mode anyway, unless if you get hit by some kind of bug or something?

Still, remove the safe zones, Trades could remain as a safe zone, but I don't think anywhere else should be a safe zone, period. However, we need something to keep people from idling.

Once only trade rooms were safe zones but people started to pk magic users and brigid priests inside shops and building and the magic users could not defend them self because you are not allowed to cast spells inside buildings.

[jonnyrocks2]

Originally Posted by cyan3

Once only trade rooms were safe zones but people started to pk magic users and brigid priests inside shops and building and the magic users could not defend them self because you are not allowed to cast spells inside buildings.

Too true.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by cyan3

brigid priests

Those exist?

[Felix_Xenophobe]

Originally Posted by kia345

Those exist?

I'm a brigid monk if that counts :<

[Darklux]

Originally Posted by jonnyrocks2

Hey Ravenblade, that argument in regards to getting lamed, untrue. You usually start in peace mode anyway, unless if you get hit by some kind of bug or something?

Still, remove the safe zones, Trades could remain as a safe zone, but I don't think anywhere else should be a safe zone, period. However, we need something to keep people from idling.

Keep people from idling? Thats hard words, we would need activity and new features/bugfixes. I don't see any quickly as björn is afaik in mid of graduation.

[CABAL49]

Demons can be a problem, I know of several occasions when I am asked to travel to New Island to kill a Demon because people can't even get out of the start house. I would probably go into Bmode more often if if there wasn't the huge threat of lamers. I suggest having different level caps for bmode. Like a level 10 can fight a level 15, but a level 20 can not fight a level 15. I think it would balance out combat and encourage people to learn to fight well earlier.

[kia345]

Originally Posted by CABAL49

I suggest having different level caps for bmode. Like a level 10 can fight a level 15, but a level 20 can not fight a level 15. I think it would balance out combat and encourage people to learn to fight well earlier.

This is good. No peaceful mode at all, but still a protection from lamers.

[Ravenblade1979]

notice that everyone who wants this idles in trade or lames people themself.

Do the newer players not count? does their insight not matter. Remove what you want..just be ready to live with the consequences that WILL follow if safe areas were removed.

[Crimson2005]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

notice that everyone who wants this idles in trade or lames people themself.

Do the newer players not count? does their insight not matter. Remove what you want..just be ready to live with the consequences that WILL follow if safe areas were removed.

Do you even bother to read what people are saying?

[kia345]

Until the newer players step up and make the voices heard, their opinions are nothing.

[Ravenblade1979]

Actually I do. I just see the same argument that was put out there last time. It was shot down then as I am sure it will be shot down now. Pmode and bmode are choices that shouldn't be thrust onto someone just because oldbies feel its time to be able to lame people without retribution.

I choose to be in pmode because I have EM items and frankly I have heard of items dropping from pking and don't wish to lose any of the EM items because someone decided they wanted to lame me non stop.

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

lame people without retribution.

Xaphan!

[Crimson2005]

Originally Posted by BigBear3

Xaphan!

what?

[BigBear3]

Originally Posted by Crimson2005

what?

Hi.

[theunknown]

I do have an interesting idea, but watch a lot think it's dumb because they won't be happy. Get rid of battle mode altogether due to the fact we have the new battle ground system. GK is supposed to be a roleplaying server, and if we need to act out a war (which hasn't happened in some time), then we simply turn that on. And how about this? Add back in the old system where you lose exp instead of just money? I actually enjoyed that. xD

[Ravenblade1979]

Yeah the pkers won't appreciate this idea...how else are they going to have their fun laming people.

[Crimson2005]

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979

Yeah the pkers won't appreciate this idea...how else are they going to have their fun laming people.

Change the record, you're spewing the same thing over and over. This wouldn't even happen if you went auto bmode after level 60. People have explained this to you yet you still go on and on about the same thing.

[Ravenblade1979]

Frankly the choice to stay pmode frankly is my right. I am not paying for a game where after a certain level i go bmode. It doesn't suit my needs.

I keep explaining that I have Event Items that I can't risk to lose. Normally I am trusted with rare items to event off. Don't you think if people knew i had those items they would be doing nothing else than waiting for me to exit trade or wherever to lame me. So why would i be in favor of eliminating pmode after a certain level or even at all?

Besides why you trying to explain it to me...shouldn't you be turning your attention to Bjorn and Stefan to get what you want?

I am against it. I made you pkers a blasted island just so you could have fun. Seems to me I will need to get back on the project to get the dungeons finished up.