Why modern?

[projectigi]

Hi,

I just noticed(again) that many new servers seem to go modern/era style and all are like the same "we will be better than era/not as *** as era/bla blub"

and in the end i saw all of these servers becoming inactive/closed o.ô
so why do all go modern/era style?

[smirt362]

Mimicry? They see what makes Era so popular and attempt to duplicate and "improve." It's also probably easier to make, you only have to worry about ways to make money, coming up with "armor", and making guns...instead of all that other stuff that would come in a story or level driven RPG.

[DustyPorViva]

To be more correct, almost ALL servers go inactive/closed--it's not just limited to modern servers.

[Novo]

Umm... Any server in any type happens to be a mimicry. It's just that Era is the only one that is really modern, so when someone does it in that time-line, it strikes out a lot more. As for it usually failing, that could be easily based on how the developer community casts judgement on these servers: We just laugh at them, claiming they're copies, and don't put further thought into it.

Also... Modern is a good time to play things out... But it isn't usually very expanded in the minds of the public:

For instance, I'm currently playing World of Darkness with some friends of mine. It is based in current-Montreal... The thing is, it's based on the Vampire-Werewolf torque. I'd be interested in that genre of modern gameplay.

[Crono]

Most servers ARE rip offs of Era as their tilesets are derived from Era's too. Thats why I constantly say that Bravo Evolved was the only good modern server. They had their own tileset and it kicked Era in the ass.

That is, until they added guns and kingdoms.

[BigBear3]

Modern servers are boring.

[Knightmare1]

well, Vietnam War isnt modern, and not all parts of towns have guns and gangs

[Horrified]

Originally Posted by Knightmare1

well, Vietnam War isnt modern, and not all parts of towns have guns and gangs

Wait, what the ****?!

GANGS in the Vietnam war? While I'm sure that might've been a case, your server should be focusing on the vietnam war, not a bunch of players and there gang "noob pwners".

It IS a modern server if you put that **** in at all.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Knightmare1

well, Vietnam War isnt modern

LOL WHAT THE ****?

and not all parts of towns have guns and gangs

...gangs?

[Arch_Angel]

Well last time I checked, Sage and my server was the furthest thing from an Era mimic. And it is a Modern based server. The tiles alone are actually unique and different. They relate to Era in no such way. Well thats my opinion. Let me know how you feel. Log on to Interitus and see for yourself.
Click here for a screeny ((sorry for some of the distortions with the light/fan effect and such))
Another Screeny of outside

[DustyPorViva]

The interior looks pretty much like Era.

[Pimmeh]

I disagree. I think that Intertius' tiles look way better.
Congrats on this guys!

Errr....why is someone saying to talk about "Ork" about stuff? I dont hope that Ork works on your server!

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Pimmeh

I disagree. I think that Intertius' tiles look way better.
Congrats on this guys!

Errr....why is someone saying to talk about "Ork" about stuff? I dont hope that Ork works on your server!

Looking better doesn't mean it looks different, it just looks like a better Era.
Wall tiles have the same layout, which is a wall with boarders on the side and bottom. Floor detailing is THE SAME, which doesn't make sense because Era's floor detailing isn't right at all. Look at the stuff in front of the door, that doesn't make sense. The doors themselves look like they'd fit right into Era. Tables and chairs... if you're doing to have a modern tileset, please make the tables and chairs look more modern. This makes it look like Era because it's exactly how Era does it.

Sure, maybe Era doesn't look as good, but this still looks like it could be some level in Era that just happens to look a little better.

[Arch_Angel]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

Looking better doesn't mean it looks different, it just looks like a better Era.
Wall tiles have the same layout, which is a wall with boarders on the side and bottom. Floor detailing is THE SAME, which doesn't make sense because Era's floor detailing isn't right at all. Look at the stuff in front of the door, that doesn't make sense. The doors themselves look like they'd fit right into Era. Tables and chairs... if you're doing to have a modern tileset, please make the tables and chairs look more modern. This makes it look like Era because it's exactly how Era does it.

Sure, maybe Era doesn't look as good, but this still looks like it could be some level in Era that just happens to look a little better.

No, see. Thats where all the "Era mimic" talk comes from. People who like to do nothing but compare any modern server to Era and say its a Era mimic. Of course they have to have some of the same styles on some Graal based things. Considering both are modern based servers. Era tries its best to go and make anything new and creative they can. They get so much different stuff made on there that sometimes the best people can do it just capitalize on something that has already been made there. And yes, I know there is quite a different number of ways that you could go on some things to avoid people saying its a Era mimic. But I'm sure our tile set alone has already proved that Interitus will not be Era based. This isn't me being rude or anything, just stating how I feel and how I think all this goes around with the whole Modern talk.

[Curt1zzle]

Why another topic asking "Why Modern" ?

[cyan3]

When you say modern/era style server i hope your not talking about Aeon because it is not like any of the new modern server which just copy of Era.

[Tom]

Agreed, why another thread X_x

And it's personal preferance.

[TheJames]

I like the modern day present feel. Aswell with my server Atrius, you can bring a whole new approach to the whole modern/guns/city theme. Not to mention, there are already alot of Midievel style servers that are classic, so therefore designers of playerworlds seek the "New" layout to make it farther, plus Era has a good player count, and who wants to try and base a server off of UN for god sakes..?

[coreys]

Originally Posted by TheJames

I like the modern day present feel. Aswell with my server Atrius, you can bring a whole new approach to the whole modern/guns/city theme. Not to mention, there are already alot of Midievel style servers that are classic, so therefore designers of playerworlds seek the "New" layout to make it farther, plus Era has a good player count, and who wants to try and base a server off of UN for god sakes..?

...yeah, there aren't really any medieval style servers that are classic. Maloria hasn't been on the classic list for awhile.

And with all the gangs in modern servers, I wonder why there aren't any gated communities!

[Darklux]

Modern Servers can be cool, they just may not copy Era.

For example, Shangri-La was an awesome piece of work.

[Inverness]

Someone should make a server like the Pokemon games. Just change what the monsters are called and make up all kinds of new names and stuff. People make fake Pokemon quite alot, just borrow those and think of a new name.

That might actually be fun if you do it right.

[coreys]

Originally Posted by Inverness

Someone should make a server like the Pokemon games. Just change what the monsters are called and make up all kinds of new names and stuff. People make fake Pokemon quite alot, just borrow those and think of a new name.

That might actually be fun if you do it right.

I actually really want to do that. I have for awhile. ****, I'mma go play some pokemanz right now.

[DustyPorViva]

I could care less about what the server is like, I'm just generally tired of seeing the same ol' Era-based tilesets. A good first step to not be like Era is to stop looking like Era. There are so many styles to be done in graphics, why do all the modern tilesets have to look the same? I've stated what makes it look similar, and there are so many ways to avoid this.

People who like to do nothing but compare any modern server to Era and say its a Era mimic.

If you hadn't of posted saying how far your server was from Era and posting screenshots telling people to check it out, I wouldn't have posted your opinion. You can't brag about your server and then not expect people to comment on it.

[smirt362]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

I could care less about what the server is like, I'm just generally tired of seeing the same ol' Era-based tilesets.

For some reason that reminded me of some REALLY old work that I did when first starting out for some other game that relied on player content.

Parts of it are from a inner city where you could shoot people, peddle drugs, and horde it all in a base. Others are from an office building/laboratory with laser grid defense system, knock out gas, green house that had artificial weather, chemistry set where you could mix things, random spawning of a "thing" that took over the lab every once in awhile (it was pretty cool, eyes would spawn all over the place, bouncing white blood cells roamed the halls, and you had to defeat these giant neurons to get rid of it), holo-deck sort of thing, and a working copier.

Favorite would probably have to be the taco sign...

[Inverness]

I want a Pokemon server. Someone make it happen.

[coreys]

Originally Posted by Inverness

I want a Pokemon server. Someone make it happen.

Maybe I'll work with you on that one day. ;o

[trevor987]

Unfortunately there's not really multiple ways to make sidewalks, or bricks, or wooden floor panels, or chairs. Sure, there can be different colors, but that's pretty much where the distinction ends.

Why modern? There's already Era.
Why classic? There's already UN.
Why future? There's already Zone.
Why sort-of medieval-ish? There's already Kingdoms.
Why heavy RPG? There's already Zodiac.

Why why why? Because people want to make their own servers that are, quite possibly, very similar to another server, but also, in their own respects, quite different in some aspect(s) of gameplay.

I think all the people posing arguments about Era mimics are overlooking the fact that it's not very easy to portray a modern city in different ways... A city is a city, and it doesn't change in the modern theme, only if you push to future or past. Also, why don't you call things UN clones, or Zodiac clones, or Kingdoms clones?

Not trying to flame anyone, but I just think that the whole "Era clone lulz" thing is getting really annoying and people also need to realize that competition means improvement. If Era controls the modern server department, it's like Microsoft controlling OSes: the final product doesn't have to be that great, because it's the ONLY product (of course there's Linux and Mac, of which I'm a strong supporter of Linux, but Windows really does have the most support). But if another OS came along and gained the same % market share as Windows, there'd be a big fight for features. Look at IE and Firefox.

[Codein]

Originally Posted by trevor987

Unfortunately there's not really multiple ways to make sidewalks, or bricks, or wooden floor panels, or chairs. Sure, there can be different colors, but that's pretty much where the distinction ends.

Actually, there IS ways to create different types of pavement, roads, house types, wooden floor panels and chairs. You just have to look around.

The pavements in Britain are really diverse. Some are just continuous (mostly with a black strip where it's been patched over due to cable laying), some are paving stones of varying sizes, colours and many with cracks.

I generally agree with the rest of your post though.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by trevor987

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