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Old 02-06-2007, 07:36 PM
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Exclamation Graal Suggestions...My experiance...

So here I am....DARKVILLIN...20 years old...I believe I started playing graal when I was about 12 or 13 you know when you could play for free...The good ol servers like Auroria, Dolphina, G3k, and I am sure there are more...which you all would agree upon.
I guess you can say I've had the full graal experience--Using the loadlevel glitch ages ago, learning to create levels, music, and graphics, working for Graal2001,Kingdoms, Babylon, Sanstrata, and many more...Watching friends come and go as I have constantly debating whether or not graal is really worth staying and playing again...and again...and again.
No doubt, I've had tons of fun...sadly with my Hell son "Crono" and many other graalians--riding a boat with Unixmad on GK and listening to him talking about pillaging villages and eating everyone...and drinking coffee...yes kinda interesting it was... and lastly getting constantly critiqued by Konidias. So where does all this take me over the past 7 or 8 years...To the current graal.
I recently came back again to work with my good friend Konidias. But I was kinda let down seeing as Graal is at an all time low in the player count. I mean what gives? I know Cyberjouer doesn't count on money from Graal to strive its company...AND YES I do realize this topic has been gone into thousands of times but if I must do it again then who knows maybe Stefan and Unixmad will finally understand...if it just is swept under the carpet like most of the concerns of graal...then I guess well I dont know.

Anywho...This Thread is not about bashing graal or anyone else it is about constructive critism that could help the "big guys" bring back players to graal. Feel free to share some of your experiences as well to help bring back those memories ya know...
First off...Why not let the classic servers be free again...to everyone...I mean okay yeah the servers are nice but we really shouldn't have to pay...this isnt World of Warcraft or Starwars Galaxies. You know and if we do have to pay at least lower the price like it used to be. We all know Graal makes most of its money from Private servers anyways...I mean look how many there are...Its ridiculous.
Also, Just a suggestion but could we get some active Globals...I mean some of them are good but back in the day was the best. They were always on and always available. Even though alot of people don't agree or liked Nemesis he was always on. If you don't like that example I can go with Snake Eyes...or Lyndzey when she had more time. Snake Eyes was probably one of the nicest guys I knew...Always willing to sacrifice his time. I mean that is what you globals should be doing...you are globals for a reason.
Lastly, The forums...Just my thought...I think they should be opened back up to anyone with a graal account. Trial or not. Yeah spam might increase but its sad having a forum community this small. There are thousands of ideas out there that could help graal grow and playerworld production increase as well...
Limiting all these things to try and convince players to upgrade is not entirely working in my book. Its just taking away priviliages that we once had and pushing us away from wanting to pay. I found it kinda disturbing that to get Christmas items on Kingdoms this year you had to upgrade your account. Honestly that is just low...
I mean I don't care about VIP or "GOLD" accounts but at least let the regular accounts be free again...If you're worried about "hackers" and people abusing accounts...let your globals do their jobs like they used to. I mean you could allow some months be free... Just please help get our graalian population back up.

Thanks for whomever reads this and feel free to share your experiences and suggestions as well,
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:51 PM
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Your words are not falling on deaf ears... or is it blind eyes?

From what I've heard, some of the suggestions you mentioned are going to be taking place. I don't really think this thread was necessary. Stefan knows what is going on and they are working to change things. Give it some time.


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Old 02-06-2007, 07:52 PM
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You're the newb. Noob. You could have said, "Thanks for mentioning me Dark, I heart you too"
Buuut nooo you must always stab me in the face. Row row row your boat...Grr
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:55 PM
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The only thing I have to offer to this thread is that I think Stefan/Unixmad/management shouldn't keep their plans secret. I've heard some interesting plans for Graal but I had to get the information from someone who isn't management...

If you guys have big changes coming you should let your players know what is going on. I know there is the chance that people will disagree with what you have planned... but it's better to know who doesn't like your idea in advance than it is to go and make it all happen and have everyone hate it.

There isn't really any reason to keep changes to Graal secret. It's not like you have competitors coming here to steal your ideas or anything. It's not like surprising people has really worked in the past here. Most surprises have been disappointing from what I've gathered. Just let people know what is going on and what you guys are planning. It would ease a lot of stress.
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Old 02-06-2007, 07:58 PM
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Agreed.
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Old 02-06-2007, 09:57 PM
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Old 02-07-2007, 12:30 AM
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LOL Sanstrata rocked man. For those who don't get it, on Sanstrata you go to heaven or hell when you die and simply step on the warper to go back to Earth. I think it depended on your AP.

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Old 02-07-2007, 02:42 AM
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I totally agree with you. As long as I've been here it seems I had the most fun when Graal was free. Just because of the fact that my friends didn't have to worry about shelling out $20 dollars every time their account ran out to continue playing. You can say what you want about this next comment, but it's only my honest opinion. Content of the playerworlds is a big thing, but the players/community is what truely makes a great atmosphere/playerworld. After awhile I just used Graal to communicate with my friends to play other games...yeah, sounds retarded, but it's the truth.

I mean, out of all my decent friends that played this game, they either don't play it anymore because it costs money, or they've moved on to bigger and better things because, hey, the game really hasn't really had any major breakthroughs the past few years, it's not necesarilly the staffs fault. But come on, Graal2001 did well, Kingdoms did well, Zone did well....I mean, it seems like whenever there is an effort to make a good server the Graal Online team does pretty good! I'm surprised they haven't made a thread asking players what type of server they want, because I know they could deliver.

But really, the people that really made this game fun to me had to of been IceHawk, Gabriel, Karsh, Lamer, Cali, Er1c, Geno, Kamuii, Merlin, Urashima, Gameo, Marla, IcePick (just because he was a jackass), Valder, Lugie, Woru, Vermain, Hiryuu, Zulithe, Dante, annr, Lycia (she was just fun to make fun of), Zorro, Brad, Alkaren, Fai, Torankusu, G_Yoshi....I mean the list goes on and on for me, and I don't even think 1/4 of those players even touch Graal anymore.

This game has always been pretty much community driven, so I don't completely understand why they don't get more input from the community.
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I totally agree with you. As long as I've been here it seems I had the most fun when Graal was free. Just because of the fact that my friends didn't have to worry about shelling out $20 dollars every time their account ran out to continue playing. You can say what you want about this next comment, but it's only my honest opinion. Content of the playerworlds is a big thing, but the players/community is what truely makes a great atmosphere/playerworld. After awhile I just used Graal to communicate with my friends to play other games...yeah, sounds retarded, but it's the truth.

I mean, out of all my decent friends that played this game, they either don't play it anymore because it costs money, or they've moved on to bigger and better things because, hey, the game really hasn't really had any major breakthroughs the past few years, it's not necesarilly the staffs fault. But come on, Graal2001 did well, Kingdoms did well, Zone did well....I mean, it seems like whenever there is an effort to make a good server the Graal Online team does pretty good! I'm surprised they haven't made a thread asking players what type of server they want, because I know they could deliver.

But really, the people that really made this game fun to me had to of been IceHawk, Gabriel, Karsh, Lamer, Cali, Er1c, Geno, Kamuii, Merlin, Urashima, Gameo, Marla, IcePick (just because he was a jackass), Valder, Lugie, Woru, Vermain, Hiryuu, Zulithe, Dante, annr, Lycia (she was just fun to make fun of), Zorro, Brad, Alkaren, Fai, Torankusu, G_Yoshi....I mean the list goes on and on for me, and I don't even think 1/4 of those players even touch Graal anymore.

This game has always been pretty much community driven, so I don't completely understand why they don't get more input from the community.
I really dont play much anymore. I should....I have been missing it alot lately. Graal is a great thing, and let it never go away. I guess graal being work just kind of got old after a few years. But yeah, alot of good people are gone. I wish I had a way to contact some of them.
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:17 AM
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:31 AM
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HAHA. IcePick = geek. Oh, and Lycia.
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:37 AM
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HAHA. IcePick = geek. Oh, and Lycia.
Oh, I forgot about you Hawk. Haven't seen you around in forever. IcePick amused me because he thought he was so smart, but he was the only one that seemed to think that. Lycia just kind of reminds me of Peach in a wierd way. They were both losers.
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Old 02-07-2007, 03:39 AM
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yeah. I didn't know you were still active on this, it seems like everyone on this forum are newbies now.
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