New leader for Zormite-Who could it be?

fuNkym0nky0 · #1 07-02-2006, 11:52 PM

Aye, the war with Zormite is over. Bosh has surrendered, Googi has had her power revoked, all is well. Except one thing. They now need a new leader. Currently I heard that the choices are Grirahan, Prince Steven, Calani, and I dont really remember the others. Im all in favor for each, theyre great. But lets look at the details. Grirahan does not really want the kingdom that much. Steven is already powerful, and has a good rank. Calani wiuld be nice, but lets look at one other person. John Aldroth, formerly known as John Kaldenis, and even more formerly known as John Sagesun, account Obs311. He is known by all, he is a great man, he has great leadership qualities, and best of all, he is neutral and non-bias. He is not against anyone, he has no enemies (that he or I know of), and is not a war and power hungry person. He also is not the type of man who will put all of his friends in power, with no regards to there abilities whatsoever. He will put a man he hates into power if he must, and he knows he will do good for the kingdom. He is the man for Zormite. I think it should go to him. So what do you all say? JOHN FOR ZORMITE!
~Crusty Deadbeard
EDIT: Oh yea, and, he has great RP skills. For example, in the war, he was killed, and then after that, he went peaceful mode and sat out, and he even changed his name. He died in battle, therefore his whole character died.

Mike_Zakuto · #2 07-03-2006, 12:09 AM

Yay for John. He is definitely a good choice.

Deophite18 · #3 07-03-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fuNkym0nky0

Aye, the war with Zormite is over. Bosh has surrendered, Googi has had her power revoked, all is well. Except one thing. They now need a new leader. Currently I heard that the choices are Grirahan, Prince Steven, Calani, and I dont really remember the others. Im all in favor for each, theyre great. But lets look at the details. Grirahan does not really want the kingdom that much. Steven is already powerful, and has a good rank. Calani wiuld be nice, but lets look at one other person. John Aldroth, formerly known as John Kaldenis, and even more formerly known as John Sagesun, account Obs311. He is known by all, he is a great man, he has great leadership qualities, and best of all, he is neutral and non-bias. He is not against anyone, he has no enemies (that he or I know of), and is not a war and power hungry person. He also is not the type of man who will put all of his friends in power, with no regards to there abilities whatsoever. He will put a man he hates into power if he must, and he knows he will do good for the kingdom. He is the man for Zormite. I think it should go to him. So what do you all say? JOHN FOR ZORMITE!
~Crusty Deadbeard
EDIT: Oh yea, and, he has great RP skills. For example, in the war, he was killed, and then after that, he went peaceful mode and sat out, and he even changed his name. He died in battle, therefore his whole character died.

Big bullies

your time will come.

GryffonDurime · #4 07-03-2006, 12:14 AM

Whoa, wait, how did war revoke the control of the kingdom?

ApothiX · #5 07-03-2006, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Whoa, wait, how did war revoke the control of the kingdom?

That's what I'm wondering too O_o

fuNkym0nky0 · #6 07-03-2006, 12:29 AM

Its like Etien. Im pretty sure Sam approved Googi's powers being revoked. Valanduil did it.

GryffonDurime · #7 07-03-2006, 12:29 AM

Ah, apparently Alarico abused the rank bug, and the staff may have even approved!

Of course, this is all only secondhand information, but it's a start to the investigation.

ApothiX · #8 07-03-2006, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fuNkym0nky0

Its like Etien. Im pretty sure Sam approved Googi's powers being revoked. Valanduil did it.

I'm pretty sure Googi is not comparible to Etien.

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Ah, apparently Alarico abused the rank bug, and the staff may have even approved!

Of course, this is all only secondhand information, but it's a start to the investigation.

That's what Googi told me when I asked him, too.

Sam · #9 07-03-2006, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GryffonDurime

Ah, apparently Alarico abused the rank bug, and the staff may have even approved!

Of course, this is all only secondhand information, but it's a start to the investigation.

I checked the logs:
Rank of member Googi changed to zormite.Citizen by AlaricoMontario

Rank of member lordbosh changed to zormite.Citizen by AlaricoMontario and so on.
If a leader give rights like:
T - Kingdom title
A - Add member
D - Delete member
G - Promotion
he must be sure that these members are very trustworthy.
They cannot blame staff if somebody does a revolution with their given rights!

The revolutionists of the Zormite Empire massed this earlier today:
The war has been declared over by the revolutionists of the Zormite Empire.

The battle today, which was agree'd upon by Forest, myself, and the Pirates,
will still commence today between the 'loyalists' and 'revolutionaries' to give as
much RP to this as possible.

Alarico told me whoever wins this upcoming event can have the Kingdom - Googi, or whoever wins.
Let's see what will happen next.

Loriel · #10 07-03-2006, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

They cannot blame staff if somebody does a revolution with their given rights!

So, uh, if some GP disconnects Stefan over and over that is okay because he was given that right?

We could blame you for not making the rights system more sophisticated so it prevents obvious abuse as it happened here.

Zero Hour · #11 07-03-2006, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel

So, uh, if some GP disconnects Stefan over and over that is okay because he was given that right?

We could blame you for not making the rights system more sophisticated so it prevents obvious abuse as it happened here.

Such things as poor leadership choices within the kingdom isn't nearly as significant

Loriel · #12 07-03-2006, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Zero Hour

Such things as poor leadership choices within the kingdom isn't nearly as significant

That is entirely irrelevant to my point. Stop trolling.

Sam · #13 07-03-2006, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Loriel

So, uh, if some GP disconnects Stefan over and over that is okay because he was given that right?

If.....
If my father would be Bill Gates, I would buy a Harley and a sailing ship.
There is no relevance to the problem here.

The only way to do a revolution is demote a king. Kingdoms should do RP. In case of kingdom things, we (staff) don't get in action as long as we are not in urgent need.
Nobody of you has talk with Alarico, so why you do such a storm in a tea-cup, instead waiting what will be happen?

Loriel · #14 07-03-2006, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam

If.....
If my father would be Bill Gates, I would buy a Harley and a sailing ship.
There is no relevance to the problem here.

The relevance is clear. Having the privileges on a authorisation level is not equivalent to being allowed to do something, and this is reflected multiple times in GraalOnline policies.

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The only way to do a revolution is demote a king. Kingdoms should do RP.

This seems to conflict. The king can, out of character, play along with the revolution and step down when he is, in character, defeated. This is roleplaying.
Using a set of scripts to exclude the king from the kingdom's administrative functions is not roleplaying.

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In case of kingdom things, we (staff) don't get in action as long as we are not in urgent need.

It is my personal opinion that your stance on this issue is flawed.

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Nobody of you has talk with Alarico, so why you do such a storm in a tea-cup, instead waiting what will be happen?

I have sufficient understanding of the situation to come to conclusions about the staff's position on the situation. I am not personally interested in kingdoms politics and will not assume any position there. So insight into Alarico's intentions is not necessary.

Waltz5 · #15 07-03-2006, 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam

I checked the logs:
Rank of member Googi changed to zormite.Citizen by AlaricoMontario

Rank of member lordbosh changed to zormite.Citizen by AlaricoMontario and so on.
If a leader give rights like:
T - Kingdom title
A - Add member
D - Delete member
G - Promotion
he must be sure that these members are very trustworthy.
They cannot blame staff if somebody does a revolution with their given rights!

If you really want to follow/hide behind this... then the kingdom system should be completely bug free. If ranks are put in a certain way they can affect everyone, even if they are above in the tree structure.