Question out of curiosity...

Darlene159 · #1 06-20-2006, 05:40 PM

After playing and working for Graal for a long period of time, a lot of people have been really negative about me playing Graal because of my age, and the fact that I am a parent in real life. This has been going on since the beginning of my playing Graal, so it is not because of my being an admin on the forums, or being a Manager of a PW.

I am really curious as to why players feel this way, and if there are any other older adults that play that receive the same treatment.

I do realize that Graal is a game geared more towards younger teenagers, but does that mean older adults should not play?
What about video games that are geared more for the younger generation?

I have loved Graal from the very beginning for many reasons. One being the fact that it had a Zelda feel to it, and I am an avid Zelda fan, always have been.
I also love the fact that I can meet and converse with people from all over the world which is very interesting to me.

I have tried other online games that seemed to have similar game play, but I did not like them. (Note: I mentioned no names, No discussing them please)

Please give me honest answers without being hateful. I would really like to know the reasons behind why players have a problem with older adults (or just me) playing.
I have my own theories, but I would rather not voice them, but would rather see if I am correct.

p2p_Sir_Link · #2 06-20-2006, 05:41 PM

I love the middle aged women on the game, ask Bell.

Curt1zzle · #3 06-20-2006, 05:44 PM

Anything out of the norm is always discriminated against.

If something is geared towards a certain age group, you're always going to raise an eyebrow when you're not in the majority.

Another reason, a bit more indepth and psychological, is because people look at you like a parent figure. This creates a conflinct because I've run into several younger kids on this game who have a horrible family life and no sense of love at home. They log on Graal to escape their parents, or family. By you moderating the forums and acting sort of like a mother, if you will, you're the exact thing they're running from.

You and younger kids both take a break from reality by playing Graal, however, you interfere with some of the younger player's escape.

At least that's how I see it...

There goes my daily post!

Darlene159 · #4 06-20-2006, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Curt1zzle

Anything out of the norm is always discriminated against.

If something is geared towards a certain age group, you're always going to raise an eyebrow when you're not in the majority.

Another reason, a bit more indepth and psychological, is because people look at you like a parent figure. This creates a conflinct because I've run into several younger kids on this game who have a horrible family life and no sense of love at home. They log on Graal to escape their parents, or family. By you moderating the forums and acting sort of like a mother, if you will, you're the exact thing they're running from.

You and younger kids both take a break from reality by playing Graal, however, you interfere with some of the younger player's escape.

At least that's how I see it...

There goes my daily post!

Very interesting...

Chris · #5 06-20-2006, 05:56 PM

They were abused as young children.

Sulukra · #6 06-21-2006, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Curt1zzle

Another reason, a bit more indepth and psychological, is because people look at you like a parent figure. This creates a conflinct because I've run into several younger kids on this game who have a horrible family life and no sense of love at home. They log on Graal to escape their parents, or family. By you moderating the forums and acting sort of like a mother, if you will, you're the exact thing they're running from.

You and younger kids both take a break from reality by playing Graal, however, you interfere with some of the younger player's escape.

Yeah, I'ma have to go with Curt on this one.

Crono · #7 06-20-2006, 05:55 PM

We stop playing because we grow old

We don't grow old because we stop playing

Darlene159 · #8 06-20-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

We stop playing because we grow old

We don't grow old because we stop playing

That explains nothing.

Crono · #9 06-20-2006, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

That explains nothing.

The older you get while spending lots of time playing games/interent games, the sadder it gets. The way society works these days.

-Ching · #10 06-20-2006, 06:07 PM

I'd think I'd disown my parents if I even saw them spending more than 2hours on the internet, or if I caught them playing Graal. I wouldnt even admit to my IRL friends that I play Graal or even talk to other males online.
Though I dont judge middle-aged people playing Graal, but I certainly wouldnt want my mum or dad coming online and playing games or even talking to online people. Though I think the internet is viewed differently in England than it is in America.

Darlene159 · #11 06-20-2006, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ching

I'd think I'd disown my parents if I even saw them spending more than 2hours on the internet, or if I caught them playing Graal. I wouldnt even admit to my IRL friends that I play Graal or even talk to other males online.
Though I dont judge middle-aged people playing Graal, but I certainly wouldnt want my mum or dad coming online and playing games or even talking to online people. Though I think the internet is viewed differently in England than it is in America.

Why would you disown your parents for those things?

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Originally Posted by Gerami

The older you get while spending lots of time playing games/interent games, the sadder it gets. The way society works these days.

I do not understand why it is sad...

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Originally Posted by nikomi946

Naturally I get much of the same response as you but if you really think about it, its only a few, not the majority. My personal opinion as to why those that attack do it is because they want to see if they can get you angry. It usually annoys the hell out of them when it doesn't work. Most of the more mature group of graalians don't really care about age. In fact they don't dare because I bet many of them will still be around themselves from time to time when they catch up to you in age. At least you don't try to hide it, you're open and honest about the fact you aren't still a kid. Just roll with it and have fun, its a game!

As far as many of the other games go, I don't play them because I don't play well with kids my own age. They tend to annoy the crap out of me most the time.

Actually, for me, it has been more than just a few over the years, but you are right when you say it is not the majority.
I think there is more to it though then them just trying to make me angry for most. There is a reason.
I do have fun regardless of what people say. As I said, I am just curious as to the reasons behind it.

nikomi946 · #12 06-20-2006, 06:11 PM

Naturally I get much of the same response as you but if you really think about it, its only a few, not the majority. My personal opinion as to why those that attack do it is because they want to see if they can get you angry. It usually annoys the hell out of them when it doesn't work. Most of the more mature group of graalians don't really care about age. In fact they don't dare because I bet many of them will still be around themselves from time to time when they catch up to you in age. At least you don't try to hide it, you're open and honest about the fact you aren't still a kid. Just roll with it and have fun, its a game!

As far as many of the other games go, I don't play them because I don't play well with kids my own age. They tend to annoy the crap out of me most the time.

Bl0nkt · #13 06-20-2006, 06:22 PM

I doubt your age is the #1 reason behind your discrimination. It's merely a tool to use against you in times of argument and frustration toward you.

Can you guess WHY most people don't like you? ;o

On the other hand, Iluvulongtime.

Darlene159 · #14 06-20-2006, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bl0nkt

I doubt your age is the #1 reason behind your discrimination. It's merely a tool to use against you in times of argument and frustration toward you.

Can you guess WHY most people don't like you? ;o

On the other hand, Iluvulongtime.

Do tell. Keep in mind that this has been going on since the very beginning of my playing. It was worse when I first started playing, so you can't use something recent as an excuse.

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Originally Posted by Googi

You should redirect such people towards me and I can show them that you do plenty of legitimately criticizable things and they don't have to rely on criticizing your age.

Read above^

Googi · #15 06-21-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Do tell. Keep in mind that this has been going on since the very beginning of my playing. It was worse when I first started playing, so you can't use something recent as an excuse.

Obviously it's impossible for us to get examples from when you first started playing seeing as we didn't know you back then.

Googi · #16 06-20-2006, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

After playing and working for Graal for a long period of time, a lot of people have been really negative about me playing Graal because of my age, and the fact that I am a parent in real life.

Most who are doing it likely don't care about your age, but rather they dislike you and attack you using any means they see available.

You should redirect such people towards me and I can show them that you do plenty of legitimately criticizable things and they don't have to rely on criticizing your age.

Crono · #17 06-20-2006, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Googi

You should redirect such people towards me and I can show them that you do plenty of legitimately criticizable things and they don't have to rely on criticizing your age.

Ohnoes it's Googi, run before he gets you! His confusing tactics will melt you :'[[[[[[[[[[[[

ApothiX · #18 06-20-2006, 07:11 PM

Loelz women on the internetz?! Go back to housework and making me sandwiches!

Darlene159 · #19 06-20-2006, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

Loelz women on the internetz?! Go back to housework and making me sandwiches!

I am being serious. I hope you don't really believe that.

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx

And aslong as you have a life on *the outside* (that sounds wrong, I know) - WHY CARE? For crying out loud, its just a way to have fun.

I have a full life in real life. Graal is not my life, but my hobby.

ApothiX · #20 06-20-2006, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

I am being serious. I hope you don't really believe that.

You never know. There are a lot of people from the south who play Graal!

I didn't know you 'back in the day', but from what I've heard from people recently, their dislike for you stems from your overmoderating of the forums and other powertrip things you like to do.

Darlene159 · #21 06-20-2006, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

but from what I've heard from people recently, their dislike for you stems from your overmoderating of the forums and other powertrip things you like to do.

This thread has nothing to do with the forums. It is not a recent thing.

ApothiX · #22 06-20-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

This thread has nothing to do with the forums. It is not a recent thing.

It doesn't matter if it's been going on since the dinosaurs were around. I simply stated a reason why people dislike you. I highly doubt anyone dislikes you based on the soul fact that you are a little older than them.

If you wanted to know why they disliked you in the past, you should have posted in the past.

xXziroXx · #23 06-20-2006, 07:26 PM

Im 18, soon to be 19, and players complain on that *low* age. I dont see why you shouldnt be able to play an online game, or any game, the second you turn a certain age.

Im pretty sure that I will keep playing games for a long time, since I enjoy it. And aslong as you have a life on *the outside* (that sounds wrong, I know) - WHY CARE? For crying out loud, its just a way to have fun.

BruceLee2000 · #24 06-20-2006, 07:48 PM

bc you bashed classic you ancient woman!@!@

Darlene159 · #25 06-20-2006, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceLee2000

bc you bashed classic you ancient woman!@!@

I love Classic

BeZeRkEr · #26 06-20-2006, 08:01 PM

blanket of fearrrrr

link master111 · #27 06-20-2006, 07:54 PM

I think there is nothing wrong with older people playing Graal.
Stefan is 31 and he continues to make Graal to what we know of it today.

People can like graal till they die and that will not shock me.
As long as you like playing Graal then play it.

Lee

ApothiX · #28 06-20-2006, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by link master111

I think there is nothing wrong with older people playing Graal.
Stefan is 31 and he continues to make Graal to what we know of it today.

People can like graal till they die and that will not shock me.
As long as you like playing Graal then play it.

Lee

Stefan doesn't play graal, he made it. There's a little bit of a difference there.
Do you think all of the video games you play are made by 14 year old kids?

link master111 · #29 06-20-2006, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

Stefan doesn't play graal, he made it. There's a little bit of a difference there.
Do you think all of the video games you play are made by 14 year old kids?

I said he makes it.

I know that many games were not made by 14 year olds.

Draenin · #30 06-20-2006, 09:08 PM

Though I might poke fun and all, I don't really mean any harm. You're not too bad, though we're bound to cross paths in the future, I'm sure. And just so you know, I'm sorry in advance for all of it. :]

On an aside, convince Unix to allow external linking outside the lounge again plx plx.

excaliber7388 · #31 06-20-2006, 10:36 PM

You're going against the norm, and somehow it's bad.
I think it's honorable.

Draenin · #32 06-20-2006, 11:22 PM

For all the times Moonie and I have clashed, I probably should dislike her by now, but that's not the case because at least I know that she usually handles stuff appropriately. Save for maybe Dal Yeoshin.

ApothiX · #33 06-21-2006, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin

Save for maybe Dal Yeoshin.

Haha. I was going to say something about that, but thought otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Googi

Obviously it's impossible for us to get examples from when you first started playing seeing as we didn't know you back then.

Impossible for Googi to get examples?! Impossible!

Googi · #34 06-21-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

Impossible for Googi to get examples?! Impossible!

If you only want to go back as far as the beginning of the forums, there are lots of examples. Even without staff powers, Moon Goddess still consistantly acted like she had infallible moral superiority.

Darlene159 · #35 06-21-2006, 12:34 AM

Ugh, some of you are making this about the forums, when it is not.
I am speaking of how older adults are treated IN GAME.

ApothiX · #36 06-21-2006, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Ugh, some of you are making this about the forums, when it is not.
I am speaking of how older adults are treated IN GAME.

It's been said time and time again. People do not just treat you the way they do because you're older. Read the posts next time.

Darlene159 · #37 06-21-2006, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ApothiX

It's been said time and time again. People do not just treat you the way they do because you're older. Read the posts next time.

That's odd. I guess all those people are liars then, interesting.
There were specific refrences to my age, from the first time I stepped pixels on Classic, up to present day.
I am sure there are other reasons why some dislike me, but that is not what I am talking about in this thread.

Malinko · #38 06-21-2006, 01:28 AM

Moonie, people are just jealous! THEY WISH THEY HAD POWER LIKE YOU! Therefore, these people attack age because it's cool to attack people on the forums.

I WISH GOOGI WAS FORUM ADMINISTRATOR. He/she knows all about the forums! I mean, he/she complained to Stefan about Moonie, but was rejected. Hahaha.

Taste it, Googi.

Other than that, Moonie, stop wondering, there is no use. Just do the job asked to do. You do a great job.

Now, I shall wait for another line from Googi that I've heard a number of times so I can laugh at her and post it on the Wiki.

Googi · #39 06-21-2006, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Darlene159

Ugh, some of you are making this about the forums, when it is not.
I am speaking of how older adults are treated IN GAME.

Yes, I know you aren't talking about the forums, but forums are the only place from which I can get postable examples of how you have acted in the past.

Anyways, very young players also get attacked on age too. The Graal playerbase is tough, and players will attack others whenever they get opportunities to. It's possible you get attacked more often than other players of similar prominance, but it would be because age-based attacks are "easy."

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Originally Posted by Malinko

Moonie, people are just jealous! THEY WISH THEY HAD POWER LIKE YOU! Therefore, these people attack age because it's cool to attack people on the forums.

Except that we're not talking about her getting attacked on the forums.

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Originally Posted by Malinko

I WISH GOOGI WAS FORUM ADMINISTRATOR. He/she knows all about the forums! I mean, he/she complained to Stefan about Moonie, but was rejected. Hahaha.

Uh, yeah. I knew what the result would be beforehand because I'd already complained to him several times before. You haven't made some kind of discovery because you happened to see it the 2247th time I complained to Stefan.

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Originally Posted by Malinko

Taste it, Googi.

"Taste it?" This sounds like something Emily would say.

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Originally Posted by Malinko

Now, I shall wait for another line from Googi

Are you looking for something like "You CrySpace Katsumoto!"

Silent · #40 06-21-2006, 03:07 AM

Children play games for fun, and to escape reality - a reality which includes the authority of their parents or guardians. You, Darlene, being a parent yourself, are to them a figure of authority regardless of what power you have within the Graal community. You seem to them to be the big bad demon who demands that those children go to sleep on time every night.

Plus you look a little like a vampire from The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion, but you gain a load of stat and skill bonuses for that.