i'm back :P

SayianOozaru · #1 08-25-2005, 09:56 AM

...well like the title says, i've returned to Zone

and with me, i've brought a new tank design

this one was done in the paint program...so just bare with it, i've only made the faceing angle...wasn't sure if you guys would like it or not, so if you guys do like it, then i'll finish it, and if not then i won't :O

Huwajux · #2 08-25-2005, 10:01 AM

Looks pretty cool but might be too big. Try to trim it down a size.

Admins · #3 08-25-2005, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Huwajux

Looks pretty cool but might be too big. Try to trim it down a size.

I would say it should be a little bit bigger

BrAwLeR · #4 08-26-2005, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

I would say it should be a little bit bigger

I agree but the battlesuit look's pretty nifty... nice work

Edit: you posted the edit as i was typing

but yea, that looks mutch better

SayianOozaru · #5 08-25-2005, 10:29 AM

also thought of some battle suit thing....uhhhh it would take ALOT of work thought....you'd have to make new arms/legs/body's/heads....i don't have that kind of time because of school

so maybe one of the Graal gfx'ers could do it...since it's there job? and i added a comparison with the tank to the character....maybe the tank is to small?

anubis_wing · #6 08-25-2005, 01:21 PM

SWEET oh and wb i like the battle armor maybe make a black,red, diff colour junk

SayianOozaru · #7 08-26-2005, 07:19 AM

ok, i've re-sized it....i had to start from scratch again, so i tried making them look as closely alike as possible..

jkool666 · #8 08-26-2005, 07:36 AM

Errm Errm Very nice work I'm glad time was taken into it and they didn't use the original stuff. Very Nice!

Lord Sephiroth · #9 08-26-2005, 08:38 AM

I don't think the tank is too "Futuristic" for Zone's taste.

SayianOozaru · #10 08-26-2005, 09:47 AM

i don't see a tank changing that much...it's always going to look like a tank....even if hover vechicles were made, i would think a tank would be to heavy. And if you can think of some ways to make it look more futuristic, lemme no.

SayianOozaru · #11 08-26-2005, 11:41 AM

well i pulled an "all nighter" and only completed a little over half of the tank...i was thinking, if this is added(hopefully), that 2 people would be able to control the tank.the driver of the tank would, of course, be able to drive with the "s" button i think? and the "d" button would fire the 2 guns to the side of the tank, to enter the drivers seat you'd have to climb through the back...(still working on that view, but if you look at the front view, there's a little door in the very back, this would be the door the driver would enter/exit from.) the other operator, would climb in through the top, and would control the gun on the top. The top gun should be able to rotate in all angles (top,left/right, and down) while facing any direction.

i hope you guys like this...cause i've spent ALOT of hours on this tank...

*Edit (6:18 am)

still ain't got to sleep, but i've added on to the tank, only 1 more view and it'll be done....and here's the battle suit again.

*Edit (7:03 am)

finished the tank

anubis_wing · #12 08-26-2005, 03:00 PM

HOLY COW THATS FRIGGEN AWESOME!!!!!!!!! i also like the red armor nice touch

haunter · #13 08-26-2005, 06:47 PM

It could be pretty good. Here are some things I've noticed just glancing at the tank:

Parts of your tank change size/shape in the different sprites. Your door seems to shrink when it opens... and on the turret sprite at the bottom left, the door hole is oval, whereas the door itself looks to be round.

Shouldn't the hole for the main cannon be round?

You're definately going to need atleast 8 directions for this tank... Body and turret.

You should slow down. Do one bit at a time... First make sure the basic shape is perfect, perspective is key. Then work on the line details, here you can fill in block colors to make it easier to tell what part is what... Only when you're completely satisfied with the line-art should you start to shade in your work.

rivals · #14 08-26-2005, 06:50 PM

i think a black and white armorsuit would look pretty kool dont u think

anubis_wing · #15 08-26-2005, 06:52 PM

Hmmm that would be cool make a white and black one or vice versa

rivals · #16 08-26-2005, 06:54 PM

lol yo anubis is ur graal working now

anubis_wing · #17 08-26-2005, 07:16 PM

nope again with the breaking down of the game!

bahamutstevetff · #18 08-26-2005, 07:18 PM

just 2 say, the reddish armour suit looks impeccible, nice work

anubis_wing · #19 08-26-2005, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bahamutstevetff

just 2 say, the reddish armour suit looks impeccible, nice work

Red pwns add a black and white one

bahamutstevetff · #20 08-26-2005, 07:22 PM

mebbe u should get different coulours depending on ur rank like sabre

anubis_wing · #21 08-26-2005, 07:26 PM

Or maybe you should buy the colours and u can change between them like theres:
Green: $5000
Blue: $10000
Purple: $12000
Red: $15000
Black: $30000

haunter · #22 08-26-2005, 07:36 PM

Or maybe the different colours could actually do something worth while.

anubis_wing · #23 08-26-2005, 07:53 PM

Ok lemme think hmmmmmmmm
Green: $15000 adds 50 hp
Blue: $20000 adds 50hp and +2 dmg to all weps
Purple: $22000 adds 50hp 2 dmg to all weps and speed +1
Red: $25000 adds 50 hp +2 dmg to all weps speed +1 and damage reduced by 2
Black: $50000 adds 100hp +5 dmg to all weps +3 to speed damage reduced by 5

haunter · #24 08-26-2005, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing

Ok lemme think hmmmmmmmm
Green: $15000 adds 50 hp
Blue: $20000 adds 50hp and +2 dmg to all weps
Purple: $22000 adds 50hp 2 dmg to all weps and speed +1
Red: $25000 adds 50 hp +2 dmg to all weps speed +1 and damage reduced by 2
Black: $50000 adds 100hp +5 dmg to all weps +3 to speed damage reduced by 5

That's boring... Everybody would just use the Black armor. How does heavy armour increase your speed? How does armour affect how much damage your bullets/grenades do?

You have to balance this crap out, and try to make everything worth using so the players have a real choice to make. Different suits would do different things... They'd each have their pros and cons.

Things like a resistance or immunity to fire, ice, poison, or electricty would be neat...
More melee damage would make sense, since these seem to be power-armour suits.
The ability to carry bigger, and heavier guns
The ability to throw grenades further.
Improved accuracy with the automatic weapons (cut down on spray during long bursts)
Improved defence, and reduced speed would be a given for each suit.

Magadal · #25 08-26-2005, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing

Ok lemme think hmmmmmmmm
Green: $15000 adds 50 hp
Blue: $20000 adds 50hp and +2 dmg to all weps
Purple: $22000 adds 50hp 2 dmg to all weps and speed +1
Red: $25000 adds 50 hp +2 dmg to all weps speed +1 and damage reduced by 2
Black: $50000 adds 100hp +5 dmg to all weps +3 to speed damage reduced by 5

yea...sure...add hp...so trials cant kill players with a suite...

haunter · #26 08-26-2005, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Magadal

yea...sure...add hp...so trials cant kill players with a suite...

A planet could be made where suits aren't allowed.

anubis_wing · #27 08-26-2005, 08:13 PM

I think increased speed would be more useful because no one is gonna use an armor that slows em down to like a pathetic lil heavy infantry maybe increased speed increased def but same attack and increased hp but armor costs like 80000 or sumtin

haunter · #28 08-26-2005, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing

I think increased speed would be more useful because no one is gonna use an armor that slows em down to like a pathetic lil heavy infantry maybe increased speed increased def but same attack and increased hp but armor costs like 80000 or sumtin

But armour isn't made to make you faster... It's made to protect you. You have to sacrifice something, and with armour, it's speed.

The things Saiyan posted are big honking metal suits. Don't try to tell me that those wont slow you down. Even if they do have a motorized skeleton inside, they wouldn't make you go any faster.

You can find basic armour in the modern world like kevlar vests... They wont slow you down as much as a suit of power armour, but they aren't going to provide as near as much protection.

Go play a Fallout game. (I suggest Fallout Tactics)

anubis_wing · #29 08-26-2005, 08:26 PM

Maybe they should add more elemental junk so that the armor can have a sort of environmental resistance

haunter · #30 08-26-2005, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing

Maybe they should add more elemental junk so that the armor can have a sort of environmental resistance

...

That's basically the first thing I had on my list.

anubis_wing · #31 08-26-2005, 08:30 PM

Yeah but we don't have many elements just fire, ice, and lightning maybe they should add like a rock thrower weapon or a grass growing thingy......

haunter · #32 08-26-2005, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing

Yeah but we don't have many elements just fire, ice, and lightning maybe they should add like a rock thrower weapon or a grass growing thingy......

Rock and grass? That's getting a bit too fantasy. Stick to Fire, Ice, electricty, and poison gas.

It actually might make more sense for the suits to be weak against electricty... Perhaps a taze bomb could temporarily shut down, or slow down a person in Power Armor.

anubis_wing · #33 08-26-2005, 08:37 PM

dude there being slowed down enuf!

haunter · #34 08-26-2005, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing

dude there being slowed down enuf!

You shouldn't just throw giantic powerhouses into the game... Especially when their so expensive that only the "older", more experienced players with the best equipment can buy them...

Perhaps a Taze bomb could affect someone in a suit like this:

If a person in a power suit is hit by a taze bomb or other electric weapon their suit will take some damage. There is a possibility that the person will take damage. There is also a posibility that their suit will temporarily slow down, or shut off...

How high this chance is depends on what sort of shape their armour is in... If their armour is repaired to 100% there is very little to no chance that the person will recieve damage from the electricty. There is also little to no chance that their suit will stall/shut down... As their suit gets damanged the chance of injury/suit failure increases.

Making electric damage work this way will ensure that people constantly keep their armour in good repair.

For example, if someone has let their suit's structural integrity reach 10% or below, if they get hit by a taze bomb there's very little chance of their suit keeping the same speed... they will almost undoubtedly slow down... and have a very good chance of shutting down for a few seconds.

anubis_wing · #35 08-26-2005, 08:59 PM

How would one REPAIR the armor?

haunter · #36 08-26-2005, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing

How would one REPAIR the armor?

There could be a guy in the dropship that does it for you... The choices are pretty obvious.

anubis_wing · #37 08-26-2005, 10:03 PM

Hmmmmm well sometimes odvious things need odvious answers I'm not the guy who made the repairing idea you are so don't be talking bout odvious oh and can any one get on graal yet?

haunter · #38 08-26-2005, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing

Hmmmmm well sometimes odvious things need odvious answers I'm not the guy who made the repairing idea you are so don't be talking bout odvious oh and can any one get on graal yet?

Item repair wasn't my idea... That idea has been in video games since before the beginning of time...

And what the hell does odvious mean?... Or wait. Are you dyslexic?

anubis_wing · #39 08-26-2005, 10:19 PM

Dyslexic????Never mind I like the repairing idea there were down now what about damage? Rduced by like 3?

haunter · #40 08-26-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing

Dyslexic????

I'll be sure to use smaller words next time.

It's a type of learning disability, it causes you to see certian letters upside down, and backwards etc...

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Originally Posted by anubis_wing

what about damage? Rduced by like 3?

Depends on which suit you use. It all has to be balanced out by the admins.