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Old 04-09-2005, 06:10 AM
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How come all the playerworlds are so awful? I mean, the best playerworlds out there are Era and Unholy Nation. What's up with that?
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Old 04-09-2005, 06:16 AM
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How come all the playerworlds are so awful? I mean, the best playerworlds out there are Era and Unholy Nation. What's up with that?
error: Inquiry contains opinion.

On a more serious note, point us to playerworlds you think are better.
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Old 04-09-2005, 06:55 AM
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How come all the playerworlds are so awful?
Because Graal players are, generally speaking, awful at making playerworlds. And nobody will pay me to make a good one.
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Old 04-09-2005, 01:08 PM
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Because Graal players are, generally speaking, awful at making playerworlds. And nobody will pay me to make a good one.
Probably how a lot of people feel, though.

"I'm not getting paid, so why bother?"

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Old 04-09-2005, 05:56 PM
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Because Graal players are, generally speaking, awful at making playerworlds. And nobody will pay me to make a good one.
Woah woah, wait up, Kaimetsu will make playerworld content for money? whats the average cost?

On a more literal note, if people were payed to create content, the better developers would come out of the works. I personally know if I were being paid, I would put more effort into completing a project.
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Old 04-10-2005, 03:51 AM
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Woah woah, wait up, Kaimetsu will make playerworld content for money? whats the average cost?
I said I'd make a playerworld for money. I don't really wanna be employed by players. I just want Graalonline to say "Okay, here's a server. Make a playerworld for us and we'll pay you at the end if we think it's good."
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Old 04-10-2005, 04:16 AM
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I personally know if I were being paid, I would put more effort into completing a project.
Same.
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Old 04-10-2005, 04:22 AM
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I think, GST members and a couple of good Developers such as Malinko would do great creating a playerworld.
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We're working on N-Pulse best we can

It takes time to fix up a PW, but I think we've done well over the past 2 weeks or so.

Look for cool changes/additions to N-Pulse in the comming months
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Old 04-09-2005, 09:41 AM
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A lot of the playerworlds on the playerlist are under development.
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Old 04-09-2005, 11:49 AM
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There should be an offical team who work (paid work) and create worlds, because it's what Graal lacks.
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Old 04-09-2005, 02:42 PM
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There should be an offical team who work (paid work) and create worlds, because it's what Graal lacks.
Yeah. Put a good word in for me
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Old 04-09-2005, 11:59 AM
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I can't see Cyberjoueur paying people to work on playerworlds.
If anything they are going to pay people to work on Graal Kingdoms.
Although I do think N-Pulse looks nice. A lot better than I remember it but it just lacks quantity just now as far as I could see.
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Old 04-09-2005, 02:41 PM
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I can't see Cyberjoueur paying people to work on playerworlds.
If anything they are going to pay people to work on Graal Kingdoms.
Although I do think N-Pulse looks nice. A lot better than I remember it but it just lacks quantity just now as far as I could see.
Hmm, well, I would if I was them. Considering most players play that, and maybe to work on GK like you said - but I don't think a few updates here and there on GK will change anything, it wont make new players come.

Total new projects would more likely increase playercount, although they shouldn't totally abandon the old projects too.

But if there was an actual team developing, working full time or something, then they could actually do big worthwhile updates, that a lot of players care about.
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Old 04-09-2005, 02:54 PM
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But if there was an actual team developing, working full time or something, then they could actually do big worthwhile updates, that a lot of players care about.
Yeah pay me 100$ a week and I'll make more quality content than anyone knows what to do with.


It's unrealistic mostly because what was produced would have to be drawing in a steady stream of new paying players, to cover the staff costs.

Let's say you hired 2-3 level makers/world planners, 3 scripters, 2-3 graphic artists. That's about the minimun I'd want for such a project.

thats 700-900$ a week to just pay these people. Is it even realistic that that many pay to play accounts can be sold per weekf for this server?

If you start cutting costs or cutting staff, the project becomes undermanned, and neglected.
You would have to be able to offer people a game that can compete with other pay to play games, such as Lineage 2, World of WarCraft, Everquest 2, Ragnarok Online, ect.

With the old technology, this is probably impossible. With the 3D stuff, anything remains to be seen, but what is the chance a bunch of non-professional people can produce a product that can match the major companys?
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