Tileset properties

[Shaun]

Currently, there are two sets of tileset properties, an older one and a newer one.

By a set of tileset properties, I mean the orientation of the tiles (ie which tiles act as chairs, which act as blocking, which act as non-blocking, water, lava, etc.). Currently, playerworlds have to conform to a Graal standard. I would request that it is possible to make new tileset properties sets.

An example of the scripting may look like:

addtiledef tileset.png,level.nw,tilesetprop.txt;

Where tilesetprop.txt would be a file containing the information that would designate each tile a property.

tilesetprop.txt may look like this:

0,0,1,2,3,1,2,0,0,1,2,4,5,6,9,2 ...
2,2,1,6,1,2,1,5,8,1,3,5,6,3,1,2 ...

Where each number represents a property and each line represents a horizontal line of the tileset.

A possible scenerio for what the numbers may represent:

blocking: 0
non-blocking: 1
deep water: 2
shallow water: 3
sitting: 4
bed: 5
swamp: 6
deep lava: 7
shallow lava: 8
hurting ground: 9
animated:
10a (10b,10c,10d,10e ... range of letters determines range of frames)
or any other number 10 or above, where a letter represents a frame.

Anything I miss? Input please. Hopefully this can be implemented soon, adding on to Graal's already staggering customizability, it's strongest point.

[Eagle]

Good idea as it may not be as confusing like when useing a blank template if you make the template yourself.

[Snakeandy7]

I really like that, Mabie area's what show under + over the player if you understand me.

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Snakeandy7

I really like that, Mabie area's what show under + over the player if you understand me.

Yeah, I thought about the drawing over idea, but that might involve too big a leap right away.

Originally Posted by haro41

theres no need for commas. just use hexidecimal formation im sure that would be enough. and much cleaner too.

I'm not quite sure what you mean. Could you please give an example?

EDIT:

I forgot bushes, stones, and signs.

I'm sure if this idea is actually looked at, that bomber already has his own already-coded format anyways, based on Graal's already existing format. These are just suggestions to give examples.

[haro41]

theres no need for commas. just use hexidecimal formation im sure that would be enough. and much cleaner too.

[haro41]

in hex the numbers 0-9 are represented normally as 0-9. but from 10-16. they are represented as the letters A-F. so 15 in hex is E

[Admins]

I am not sure if it would be really good, it is better if you use the new tileset format where you have different areas for different type of tiles. If you would like to change the tiletypes of existing tilesets then you would need to define 2048 values by script (since it must be secure, so it must be put in a weapon script), which is not really simple.

[Shaun]

Wouldn't letters already be used for animated tiles? Such as the flower

[Evil_Trunks]

Originally Posted by Shaun

Wouldn't letters already be used for animated tiles? Such as the flower

animated tiles shouldn't require any annoying special stuff

they should just work when you addtiledef2 an animated image

Originally Posted by Stefan

Tilesets are 2048x512 pixels and contain 4096 tiles.
With weapon script i mean you would need to put the scripting command to set the tile types in a weapon script because it would need to be done on clientside.
What is the problem with the new tileset formats exactly?

What I think he is suggesting is something to completely change the layout of the tileset tile types using a script command or server option.

like say you make this command for Graal: loadnewtilesetformat file.txt;
where file.txt contains an array of the hex numbers corresponding to different tile types

[Shaun]

The current existing tileset formats may be limitting to some developers. I am not sure what you mean when you say "weapon script", unfortunately. Does a tileset have to be a specific size?

[Admins]

Tilesets are 2048x512 pixels and contain 4096 tiles.
With weapon script i mean you would need to put the scripting command to set the tile types in a weapon script because it would need to be done on clientside.
What is the problem with the new tileset formats exactly?

[TB3]

I know we havesomething to get tiletypes from a setshape2 but we need something to get the tile type from in level IE tilestype[x,y] would be equal to the values allready defined IE 22 blocking 3 chair ect...

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Stefan

With weapon script i mean you would need to put the scripting command to set the tile types in a weapon script because it would need to be done on clientside.

I'm still uncertain by what you mean with weapon script. NPCW? When you mention clientside, I become nervous, because I haven't scripted anything using any stuff added since around 1.34.

Originally Posted by Stefan

What is the problem with the new tileset formats exactly?

There are only 2 tileset formats if I understand correctly. The newer one, addtiledef _,_,1; , is inadequately explained (the tileset templates on the forums are partially incorrect I discovered), as well, it would allow developement teams to have greater organization possibilities and flexibility with tilesets.

[TB3]

Originally Posted by Shaun

I'm still uncertain by what you mean with weapon script. NPCW? When you mention clientside, I become nervous, because I haven't scripted anything using any stuff added since around 1.34.

He means that if you wanted to redefine the tileset yourself it would need to be in a "NPC weapon" in the players inventory with arrays defining every single tile which would be a pain.

Originally Posted by Shaun

There are only 2 tileset formats if I understand correctly. The newer one, addtiledef _,_,1; , is inadequately explained (the tileset templates on the forums are partially incorrect I discovered), as well, it would allow developement teams to have greater organization possibilities and flexibility with tilesets.

I thought they where explained adequately just no realy good template for it.
Its simple giant blocks of tiles defined for 1 purpose. One section for chairs , one for water tiles , ect...

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by TB3

He means that if you wanted to redefine the tileset yourself it would need to be in a "NPC weapon" in the players inventory with arrays defining every single tile which would be a pain.

So an NPCW.

Originally Posted by TB3

I thought they where explained adequately just no realy good template for it.
Its simple giant blocks of tiles defined for 1 purpose. One section for chairs , one for water tiles , ect...

The templates/definitions that are up though, they are less than 100% accurate.