Offline Multi-Player...

Idrox0 · #1 01-25-2004, 04:37 AM

I have been on graal since about late 2002, and there are many things that I missed. I hear about the REALLY classic Graal, with the offline multi-player, two-person horseriding and such, and I wanted to see what it was like, so I wanted to ask... does anyone have a link to an OLD version of graal? I think I downloaded it once, but it never seemed to work, so I want to try it again. Also, this probably will never appear again, but does anyone have like, a saved webpage of when graal pretty much first started? I've also heard of an mp3 called, "Graal in a Nutshell", anyone heard of it?

Lance · #2 01-25-2004, 04:41 AM

Last I knew, distributing the old versions of graal was against the rules.

ZanderX · #3 01-25-2004, 04:42 AM

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Originally posted by Idrox0
I've also heard of an mp3 called, "Graal in a Nutshell", anyone heard of it?

Yes. It was a parody of sorts of the Graal community done mostly by Marle, The Game, and TrueHeaT. I'm pretty sure a couple other VAs were involved but it was mostly those three. I'll see if I can't find it for you.

Idrox0 · #4 01-25-2004, 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by Lance
Last I knew, distributing the old versions of graal was against the rules.

Oh PALEEZ tell me that is not true

ZanderX · #5 01-25-2004, 05:21 AM

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Originally posted by Idrox0

Oh PALEEZ tell me that is not true

I don't think there's anything bad with sharing it amongst friends but posting it here is a very bad idea. And distribution of the Gserver is strictly, 100% illegal.

Idrox0 · #6 01-25-2004, 05:23 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

I don't think there's anything bad with sharing it amongst friends

Will you be my friend for $60? XD

DarkShadows_Legend · #7 01-25-2004, 05:29 AM

There was some game promotion website with a very old version of graal. I can't tell you the name though, but it is easy to find.

protagonist · #8 01-25-2004, 05:33 AM

As far as I know, only the running of older servers is illegal.

I have a copy of 1.4 I believe, I play it with my brother/friend occasionally. I think I may get a gamepad so we can all play it (3 people on one keyboard is icky), as it's quite fun to run around and take all the good items and then stalking them

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Lyndzey · #9 01-25-2004, 05:54 AM

I think 1.31 and up gservers are illegal.

Playing old Graal versions or distributing ones (without the gserver) is not illegal. I still have Graal 1.1 (Graal did not update itself with every new version back then) on my old computer.

Valder · #10 01-25-2004, 07:06 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

Yes. It was a parody of sorts of the Graal community done mostly by Marle, The Game, and TrueHeaT. I'm pretty sure a couple other VAs were involved but it was mostly those three. I'll see if I can't find it for you.

I was in it

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Dach · #11 01-25-2004, 07:15 AM

the Internet Archive, greatest of all that is great
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.graalonline.com

I have some old graal versions, and a zip in my filespace, but I can't remember what is all in it, so I won't link to it...

Riot · #12 01-25-2004, 08:39 AM

Last I heard old graal versions couldn't be used as an alternative to current Graal as an online game, but was perfectly fine for LAN games.

Mykel · #13 01-25-2004, 08:41 AM

I had so much fun with multi-player graal, with my brother (Arsenik Drakken - quit, in Navy, and Vladimir Drakken - Good friend, I think he quit)and friend. It was loads of fun killing eachother. Especially making our own worlds with quests.

Crono · #14 01-25-2004, 12:03 PM

Nice link Dach.

Thallen · #15 01-25-2004, 03:07 PM

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Originally posted by Dach
the Internet Archive, greatest of all that is great
http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.graalonline.com

I have some old graal versions, and a zip in my filespace, but I can't remember what is all in it, so I won't link to it...

Holy God, that is extremely awesome.

Nitkizi · #16 01-25-2004, 07:01 PM

Dammit, the intro from the 2000 version of the site doesn't work, that was the intro I remember seeing when a friend of mine first told me to check it out and I was thinking,"Sweet pie."

WHIPENIE4 · #17 01-25-2004, 08:38 PM

Graal Underground had the best Graal INTRO! YEA! but most of you are new and never saw it, so ha

Lance · #18 01-25-2004, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by WHIPENIE4
Graal Underground had the best Graal INTRO! YEA! but most of you are new and never saw it, so ha

It exists/existed as more than a newbie website?

protagonist · #19 01-25-2004, 11:28 PM

Ah good memories.

Termina_Owner · #20 01-26-2004, 03:37 AM

Whoa... I didn't know they had archives of the old Graal Sites... Boy that took me back a couple of years ago... Almost A little more then half a decade ago! Nice seeing those stuff.

As for old version? I don't know... I haven't seen some in circulation. I know 1.28 version is a very known one, search that one, and you might have more change finding one!

WHIPENIE4 · #21 01-26-2004, 04:12 AM

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Originally posted by Lance

It exists/existed as more than a newbie website?

it was a Help Guide when there was only 1 Playerworld. well. When there wasnt ports and Olorin

aylad · #22 01-26-2004, 04:19 AM

Last time I contacted Graal Staff about this they said that posting versions of Graal for download was illegal. Nothing was said about private distribution. Same goes for the old levelpack.

GServers are quite illegal, however. The idea is to keep people from setting up illegitimate servers and drawing business away from Cyberjouers... which I fully understand and agree with.

superb · #23 01-26-2004, 04:53 AM

Yeah, I report illegal gservers if I hear about them and get the connection info.

Lance · #24 01-26-2004, 05:42 AM

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Originally posted by superb
Yeah, I report illegal gservers if I hear about them and get the connection info.

And then the myth is that Stefan uses his knowledge of gserver bugs to screw it up.

protagonist · #25 01-26-2004, 06:06 AM

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Originally posted by Lance

And then the myth is that Stefan uses his knowledge of gserver bugs to screw it up.

I heard that too.

Thought · #26 01-26-2004, 09:21 AM

http://www.graal.us/oldintro.php

Blue_Dragn · #27 01-26-2004, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by Lance

And then the myth is that Stefan uses his knowledge of gserver bugs to screw it up.

Myth? I thought it was proven, some guy was running a 1.3 gserver, and stefan completely "owned" him with the bugs, as i recall the story going.

thelostviking · #28 01-26-2004, 07:06 PM

yeah 1.41 was cool. I wish some page would distribute it but 1.31 is common because idiots need it for running illegal servers x.x . I just want to play with my bros hmm.

GoZelda · #29 01-26-2004, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by Thought
http://www.graal.us/oldintro.php

When me and my friend started playing, that was the intro. Ah, the good old non-P2P times.

Nitkizi · #30 01-26-2004, 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by Thought
http://www.graal.us/oldintro.php

<3

thelostviking · #31 01-27-2004, 03:05 PM

Is it anywhere uploaded? Or can stefan host a old version?

MysticHaste · #32 01-27-2004, 04:01 PM

I would Love to See Stefan make an IPX LAN Version (IPX is harder to use on the internet, most ISPs don't Support I don't think)

Just like built into the Current Graal version, Cause Having LAN would be sweet to test levels and such, but then again if your going to have a Current Version server You'd also need a LAN_NPC-Server, which would always make it real easy for HAXORSZ to make an internet version of the NPC Server, and HAXOR A 1337 NPC Server/Current GServer version of Graal for free.

So Its not going to happen I guess...

Kappa00p2p · #33 01-27-2004, 06:05 PM

with the new torque engine you would probably be able to do it with no problem because it would be like hosting an fps shooter like in the torque engine demo.

LegendaryTsukasa · #34 01-27-2004, 08:39 PM

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http://www.graal.us/oldintro.php

^What everyone else said.

And if they made/had Graal offline... Why would you use that? you can pretty much do everything online...

GoZelda · #35 01-27-2004, 08:47 PM

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Originally posted by LegendaryTsukasa
And if they made/had Graal offline... Why would you use that? you can pretty much do everything online...

An offline version with all 'features' will never be created, because Unix won't get 1337 monies.

Wonder if that is a bannable offense

LegendaryTsukasa · #36 01-27-2004, 08:56 PM

Couldnt be bannable...

And thats becuase they are Money Hungry =D

Ahem Ahem

WHIPENIE4 · #37 01-28-2004, 12:06 AM

http://www.graal.us/oldintro.php

I was here before that, the first time that appeared it was slow as hell, everyone checked the stats, at first it said updated every 20 minutes, I was the second one to 500 kills, i know it seems easy but back then it wasnt quite as easy as you'd think, think going into Yoshii Town, getting a little rock snake, taking it to a mailbox and getting 20 Hearts, now you see how wasy it was to get hearts, now you just need the swords and shields and god its hell killing people unless they have the PK tag. It was quite funny. And the time Spider put all the guildcodes on his site and anyone could get in any guild, these are memorys only players like Hoss, Lyndzey, Galen, a few others that still play. galen comes on classic every blue moon drunk as hell. Yea.

LegendaryTsukasa · #38 01-28-2004, 03:17 AM

The good ol' days? xD

MysticHaste · #39 01-28-2004, 04:30 AM

So many memories.

I started in like 1.37, on Geos Npulse.

So I can't say much about Classic, but I remember the site, and I remember it took me forever to download all them GFX packs that used to be there, I also remember they had an ISP ban on my ISP, so I couldn't play for like a week, until I got that cleared up.

Back then I used to play with friends IRL, and TrIz, who introduced me to the game.

Old School Graal was the best.

Also:

I'd rather play it in LAN, cause I run a 56k, and It would be cool to test my PW offline with friends, get a feel for it, before I pay to upload it.

superb · #40 01-28-2004, 07:49 AM

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Originally posted by WHIPENIE4
http://www.graal.us/oldintro.php

I was here before that, the first time that appeared it was slow as hell, everyone checked the stats, at first it said updated every 20 minutes, I was the second one to 500 kills, i know it seems easy but back then it wasnt quite as easy as you'd think, think going into Yoshii Town, getting a little rock snake, taking it to a mailbox and getting 20 Hearts, now you see how wasy it was to get hearts, now you just need the swords and shields and god its hell killing people unless they have the PK tag. It was quite funny. And the time Spider put all the guildcodes on his site and anyone could get in any guild, these are memorys only players like Hoss, Lyndzey, Galen, a few others that still play. galen comes on classic every blue moon drunk as hell. Yea.

Hehe, I remember when Hoss was a newb.

I think either I or Gandarian recruited him into Baddies...can't remember.