Rescripted D + Disable Sword

[KuJiGX]

Well. I seen a few threads about disabling sword so here you people go. Rescripted D.

NPC Code:

---

//#CLIENTSIDE

if (timeout || isweapon) {

  disableweapons;

  setarray this.keydown,11;

  setarray this.oldkeydown,11;

  for (this.i=0;this.i<11;this.i++) {

    this.oldkeydown[this.i]=this.keydown[this.i];

    this.keydown[this.i]=(keydown(this.i));

  }

  if (this.keydown[4]==true && this.oldkeydown[4]==false && selectedweapon>=0) callweapon selectedweapon,weaponfired;

  timeout = 0.05;

}

---

Any problems please tell me.

[Charex]

Very nice

[KuJiGX]

I seen a lot of threads about it.

[GoZelda]

Originally posted by KuJiGX
Well. I seen a few threads about disabling sword so here you people go. Rescripted D.

NPC Code:

---

//#CLIENTSIDE

if (timeout || isweapon) {

  disableweapons;

  setarray this.keydown,11;

  setarray this.oldkeydown,11;

  for (this.i=0;this.i<11;this.i++) {

    this.oldkeydown[this.i]=this.keydown[this.i];

    this.keydown[this.i]=(keydown(this.i));

  }

  if (this.keydown[4]==true && this.oldkeydown[4]==false && selectedweapon>=0) callweapon selectedweapon,weaponfired;

  timeout = 0.05;

}

---

Any problems please tell me.

Why would you do this? o.o

[Python523]

Originally posted by KuJiGX
Well. I seen a few threads about disabling sword so here you people go. Rescripted D.

NPC Code:

---

//#CLIENTSIDE

if (timeout || isweapon) {

  disableweapons;

  setarray this.keydown,11;

  setarray this.oldkeydown,11;

  for (this.i=0;this.i<11;this.i++) {

    this.oldkeydown[this.i]=this.keydown[this.i];

    this.keydown[this.i]=(keydown(this.i));

  }

  if (this.keydown[4]==true && this.oldkeydown[4]==false && selectedweapon>=0) callweapon selectedweapon,weaponfired;

  timeout = 0.05;

}

---

Any problems please tell me.

Why use isweapon? There is no point to it anymore. It was for when we didn't have an NPC-Server and servers had to execute things on the npc only when it was a weapon. Toweapons is never used, or at least it is shunned when used.

[Lance]

If someone uses toweapons with an npcserver, I shall personally behead them.

[DarkShadows_Legend]

Originally posted by Lance
If someone uses toweapons with an npcserver, I shall personally behead them.

Uh-oh. I sometimes leave that part in my npcs. It is an accident of course.
:goes to make sure they were removed before beheading:

[Kigan]

Some of us have no NPC Server to play with It's hard to develop things writen for NPC Server when you can't test it. So for now I'll keep using my hidden weapons

[Lance]

Originally posted by Kigan
It's hard to develop things writen for NPC Server when you can't test it.

I don't follow.

[Kigan]

Seeing as there is a huge lack of current documentation that is, most things with NPC you need to figure out on your own. Something you write might work fine offline (e.g. toweapons) but there might be a much better way to do it with an NPC Server, but how can you know if what you write for the NPC Server will work right or at all even if you can't test your scrips?

Maybe you have some strang vodoo power that lets you write perfect scripts the first time, or maybe it's because you've actually been USING an NPC Server and have actually SEEN other scripts writen for the NPC Server that you know what to do. But I, for one, do not. :o

[Lance]

Originally posted by Kigan
Seeing as there is a huge lack of current documentation that is, most things with NPC you need to figure out on your own. Something you write might work fine offline (e.g. toweapons) but there might be a much better way to do it with an NPC Server, but how can you know if what you write for the NPC Server will work right or at all even if you can't test your scrips?

Reading commands.rtf and watching the newfeatures is enough to teach you the syntax and in some cases the applications as well, though that should be intuitive.

Side note: Offline scripting is useless and should (and will) be removed.

Maybe you have some strang vodoo power that lets you write perfect scripts the first time,

It isn't that strange, man.

or maybe it's because you've actually been USING an NPC Server and have actually SEEN other scripts writen for the NPC Server that you know what to do. But I, for one, do not. :o

Sure, experience helps. Doesn't mean, though, that a good coder can't pick it up from reading about it. That is how I was able to pick up C++ so fast in school, for example.

[Kigan]

Sure, but with C++ you no doubt had a compiler and could see your results. But I'm sure you've never writen anything with a bug in your life

I've been coding for years. I've worked with Richard Stallman's Free Software Foundation on various GNU Projects, I've also developed several in-house software used by the FSF. Please don't speak to me as if I don't know anything about Programing.

[GoZelda]

Originally posted by Lance

Sure, experience helps. Doesn't mean, though, that a good coder can't pick it up from reading about it. That is how I was able to pick up C++ so fast in school, for example.

That's how i'm able to use serverside scripting with a bit of efficiency before even being connected to a NPCserver :O

[Kigan]

I'm not talking about small simple scripts, I'm talking about big ones that you need to tweek alot to make look right, math is math, you can do that on paper, but getting things to look good and have it be bug free when it goes online is something I, for one, like to do. It's one thing to code something, it's another to obsess it to perfection.

If the offline scripting is going away, Stefan should create an NPC Server and Graal Server emulator for development avaible to VIP members or something.

I don't know about you, but if I'm gonna spend $100 to put up a playerworld, then I want it to be ready to go live the first month I've paid, not the 8th.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Kigan
Sure, but with C++ you no doubt had a compiler and could see your results. But I'm sure you've never writen anything with a bug in your life

I said in school; I did not say in a lab setting. Concepts lead to applications, you know, and if you understand the concepts, you understand the applications.

[ForgottenLegacy]

Originally posted by Lance

Side note: Offline scripting is useless and should (and will) be removed.

That comment is just plain stupid: I write all my scripts offline then test them offline, then I add the NPC-Server stuff and test them online. Offline scripting is vitally important to me and several others. If I script offline, then I always have a save of my NPCs.

[Loriel]

Originally posted by ForgottenLegacy
That comment is just plain stupid: I write all my scripts offline then test them offline, then I add the NPC-Server stuff and test them online. Offline scripting is vitally important to me and several others. If I script offline, then I always have a save of my NPCs.

I have to agree.

[GoZelda]

Originally posted by Loriel

I have to agree.

Me two.

My monkey three.

[Lance]

Originally posted by ForgottenLegacy


That comment is just plain stupid:

Nice, baseless allegation. Perhaps I should say you are just plain stupid?

I write all my scripts offline then test them offline, then I add the NPC-Server stuff and test them online.

Mmm, perhaps that previous statement of mine would be right. Why in the world would you write the stuff separately like that, and have some need to test the offline stuff in that manner?

Offline scripting is vitally important to me and several others. If I script offline, then I always have a save of my NPCs.

Start -> Accessories -> Notepad. I advise making it a quicklaunch item. Get used to backing up your own work, instead of relying on something else to do it for you.

The only possible use for offline scripting is and has been to style poorly-formatted scripts, and that has been added to npc-server.

[ForgottenLegacy]

Originally posted by Lance
Start -> Accessories -> Notepad. I advise making it a quicklaunch item. Get used to backing up your own work, instead of relying on something else to do it for you.

The only possible use for offline scripting is and has been to style poorly-formatted scripts, and that has been added to npc-server.

I do not feel comfotable scripting in a faceless program? At least give me something of color to see, as Notepad is just plain white. Unless I'm using a GOOD interfase, I cannot script well. It's a matter of psychology. Reason why I dislike scripting directly to the npc server: I can never script nearly as well.

Note: It is handy to have a list of every command in a simple menu right next to where I am typing in the script.

[Lance]

Originally posted by ForgottenLegacy


I do not feel comfotable scripting in a faceless program?

Before that, people wrote their programs down on paper.

At least give me something of color to see, as Notepad is just plain white. Unless I'm using a GOOD interfase, I cannot script well. It's a matter of psychology. Reason why I dislike scripting directly to the npc server: I can never script nearly as well.

It's a matter of psychology - you can change your mind.

Note: It is handy to have a list of every command in a simple menu right next to where I am typing in the script.

commands.rtf is hardly every command. Aside from that, you can always open it if you get lost. I'm supposing this happens frequently, and thus would be excessive work...?

[ForgottenLegacy]

Originally posted by Lance
Before that, people wrote their programs down on paper.

They don't do that now, do they?

Originally posted by Lance
It's a matter of psychology - you can change your mind.

Changing a preferance is not the same thing as changing your mind. Same thing applies to choice of food. You can change what you eat, but you cannot change what actually makes you feel good and do better work.

Originally posted by Lance
commands.rtf is hardly every command. Aside from that, you can always open it if you get lost. I'm supposing this happens frequently, and thus would be excessive work...?

My commands.rtf has every command I'd need to look up, plus a great deal more. If it is not in there, then either I know it, have never heard of it, or it does not exist.

[Lance]

Originally posted by ForgottenLegacy


They don't do that now, do they?

I was indicating that it's quite possible to do work in other ways. A simple text editor is best to do most coding; perhaps get a program like ultraedit if you want something fancy.

Changing a preferance is not the same thing as changing your mind.

To change a preference, you must change your mind. I am asking you to change your mind.

Same thing applies to choice of food. You can change what you eat, but you cannot change what actually makes you feel good and do better work.

You only half-explained it. You can change what you eat, and you can change your mind. You did not draw a correlation between the two, thus your analogy is flawed.

My commands.rtf has every command I'd need to look up, plus a great deal more. If it is not in there, then either I know it, have never heard of it, or it does not exist.

Things like that exist for reference, not for use every time you need to use any given command.

[ForgottenLegacy]

Originally posted by Lance


I was indicating that it's quite possible to do work in other ways. A simple text editor is best to do most coding; perhaps get a program like ultraedit if you want something fancy.

I am simply asking you to keep the offline editor, as many many people use it, including global staff members. all of the scripting team on Babylon use it, all of the team on N-Pulse as well.

Just because you do not need to use somthing does not mean that others do not need it either. Stop thinking your opinion would be good for everyone, when it is just good for you. Do a poll on the scripting board, as a sticky post. I bet you that many people would choose to keep it, as I would.

[Kigan]

Lance, nothing against you, but you're just trying to impress people by saying stupid **** about how good a scripter you are and how you alredy know what even the most complex scripts will look like char for char in your head without even writing them. You're the perfect scripter, you never make a mistake and none of your NPC's ever have bugs.

Give us a break and stop being such an arrogant ass. I could probably code circles arround you, along with any real programer .

So where do you script anyway? Because I don't see any servers up that are bug free.

Sorry everyone for taking this thread off-topic in the first place.

Lance, Tseng, whatever, I don't care who you think you are, neither do other people here. So get off your ego-trip and stop making yourself look like an idiot.

Seriously, man. Why do you have to be such an arrogant ass. Arrogance and ignorance go togeather, you've demonstrated both. So why don't we just forget you ever said that stupid **** and try not to think of you as stupid-ass-little-*uck every time we see another post from you.

People talk about how to make the Graal Online comunity better. It starts with leaving your ego's home and having an open mind.

Why don't we all just play nice? It is just a game after all.

[ForgottenLegacy]

*Points to Kigan, nods, and walks off*

[Mustang1988]

I'm a casual Graal scripter, and I assent to Lance's opinion on offline scripting in offline Graal is kind of useless if you can simply just add it into the NPC Server through RC. If it's the 'Style' and 'Test' buttons you're worried about, petition for Stefan to add those to RC.

I script in TextPad in most languages, including GraalScript when I'm not on a computer with my IP range for RC.

And Kigan, where do you get off assuming that you can 'code circles' around Lance? Even if this may be the case, you are either showing your true ego, or trying to make yourself look like a better person by claiming to be able to out-script a Global Scripter. So, I advise that you take your own advice before you attempt to continue this little debate.

Moving on and attempting to stay closer towards the topic, I don't mind what the outcome of this offline-scripting decision will be, but my vote is on taking it out, it just adds more download time for upgrading. ;O

[-Ramirez-]

Haha, nicely said, Kigan. I completely agree about the "making the Graal community better" thing. People with attitudes like that make it so hard to enjoy the forums... and the game itself when you run into them on there.

As for abolishing offline scripting... it's completely retarded. Durr, think about it, not everyone has access to a server where they can put scripts to test them. Oh, and even if they did, what about people on dialup who can't always be online? Should they not be able to script just because they don't have a connection that's always on?

Then... if someone goes as far as saying you shouldn't need to test scripts... well, that's an even more retarded statement. Nobody is perfect and can create scripts that will ALWAYS work perfectly as they had planned. People make mistakes unknowingly, it happens. Being able to test those scripts AT ALL TIMES for mistakes is a big help.

[Lance]

Originally posted by Kigan
Lance, nothing against you, but you're just trying to impress people by saying stupid **** about how good a scripter you are and how you alredy know what even the most complex scripts will look like char for char in your head without even writing them. You're the perfect scripter, you never make a mistake and none of your NPC's ever have bugs.

Please, point out where I made such an indication. Sir, I am a decent scripter, but I do not need the offline compiler to check my work.

Give us a break and stop being such an arrogant ass. I could probably code circles arround you, along with any real programer .

You very well may be able to - however, making such a claim immediately after calling me arrogant is rather detrimental to your argument, now isn't it...?

So where do you script anyway? Because I don't see any servers up that are bug free.

I'm a consultant, in addition to doing new scripting for graal2001.

By the way: Has anyone told you that you sound an awful lot like Nova?

Lance, Tseng, whatever, I don't care who you think you are, neither do other people here.

I think I'm Lance, Tseng, or whatever.

So get off your ego-trip and stop making yourself look like an idiot.

Follow your own advice, silly fool.

Seriously, man. Why do you have to be such an arrogant ass. Arrogance and ignorance go togeather, you've demonstrated both. So why don't we just forget you ever said that stupid **** and try not to think of you as stupid-ass-little-*uck every time we see another post from you.

Your pathetic, profaning insults amuse me. Again, if you did not think you were better than me, your points might have some merit. However, what amuses me is that you're making that 'He is arrogant' argument while simultaneously calling me ignorant (while behaving thusly yourself ).

People talk about how to make the Graal Online comunity better. It starts with leaving your ego's home and having an open mind.

Yet again, your points may have had some merit had you not demonstrated that you do not follow them yourself.

Why don't we all just play nice? It is just a game after all.

asdf. Look, idiot - you just said:

So why don't we just forget you ever said that stupid **** and try not to think of you as stupid-ass-little-*uck every time we see another post from you

and you're now saying we should all 'play nice'? Argh.

Originally posted by -Ramirez-
Haha, nicely said, Kigan. I completely agree about the "making the Graal community better" thing. People with attitudes like that make it so hard to enjoy the forums... and the game itself when you run into them on there.

In addition to the humor of the 'nicely said', it is my ruling that you, sir, also need a large helping of 'follow your own advice'.