Nice forest...but very old

[alarid0]

K lets see here this was around either November or December of 2001...I had more like this, some of them being a little better, but since it was so long ago and ive switched computers twice (maybe even three times) this single screenshot is all I have left...which I only just found tonight =o Don't bother pointing out that the log's stolen from Zelda.

[Judge_S]

Originally posted by alarid0
K lets see here this was around either November or December of 2001...I had more like this, some of them being a little better, but since it was so long ago and ive switched computers twice (maybe even three times) this single screenshot is all I have left...which I only just found tonight =o Don't bother pointing out that the log's stolen from Zelda.

It's a disgraceful looking level, to be honest. The shadows aren't to the right spots on some of the tiles (but that's the tileset's fault, not yours), and the edge separating the grass from the swamp doesn't fit. The tree looks like it is a graphic, and I'll assume it is.

Also, not only is the log stolen from Zelda 3, the little stump-cave entrance is as well. Not to mention the level is made in the exact way as the Haunted Forest.

However, it is good for what Graal had to offer at the time.

[FreezeBurnX]

Originally posted by alarid0
K lets see here this was around either November or December of 2001...I had more like this, some of them being a little better, but since it was so long ago and ive switched computers twice (maybe even three times) this single screenshot is all I have left...which I only just found tonight =o Don't bother pointing out that the log's stolen from Zelda.

Dude, Graal < Zelda. Don't insult Zelda with that lame copy, ok?

[alarid0]

Originally posted by Judge_S
the edge separating the grass from the swamp doesn't fit.

considering what I had at my disposal i thought i did pretty well

The shadows aren't to the right spots on some of the tiles (but that's the tileset's fault, not yours

what?

The tree looks like it is a graphic, and I'll assume it is.

um no that was the tree that graal's tileset had at the time

Also, not only is the log stolen from Zelda 3, the little stump-cave entrance is as well.

um kay thanks i didnt specifically say that but i was kind of hoping that people would do some thinking and get it that i meant not just the big log tunnel but the log/stump cave entrance as well

Not to mention the level is made in the exact way as the Haunted Forest.

that...was the POINT. it was what i was TRYING to go for

[Judge_S]

Originally posted by alarid0

considering what I had at my disposal i thought i did pretty well

what?

um no that was the tree that graal's tileset had at the time

um kay thanks i didnt specifically say that but i was kind of hoping that people would do some thinking and get it that i meant not just the big log tunnel but the log/stump cave entrance as well

that...was the POINT. it was what i was TRYING to go for

And I recall saying:

Originally posted by Judge_SHowever, it is good for what Graal had to offer at the time.

The tiles. The shadows don't fully envelop the level. You have, let's say, the small trees. In the corners of the tiles, it isn't shadowed. However, I did say that was no fault of yours.

I know that's the tree Graal was using at the time; I have been around for a long time y'know. It still looks as if it is a graphic, rather than straight from the tiles.

No fault of mine. Assumptions aren't the best to go from.

Using the theme down to exact shapes (such as the rays of lights bursting through the canopy) is almost always a bad idea, such as is this case. Be creative and stop copying.

[SaijinGohan]

Well back in the day that would've been nice. But now, forget the shadows lets just add translucent tree tops. :P

[FreezeBurnX]

Originally posted by SaijinGohan
Well back in the day that would've been nice. But now, forget the shadows lets just add translucent tree tops. :P

Exactly and Graal < Zelda!!

[Spark910]

correct me... but thats just a not so nice tiled level.. and the original X Online tree NPC image...

[dorfindel]

Guys don't be so critical. I really don't think he meant to show it off as being a great level. I mean jesus, it's with the old tileset, and it's before the "Tiling Reformation" of Graal when people first started to learn how to properly use the level editor. So that's not really important.

Chill. I mean, how can you NOT like looking at the old levels? Even if they suck, you've gotta love ancient graal levels

[SaijinGohan]

No it only stirs up a cry for zelda.

[Judge_S]

Originally posted by dorfindel
Chill. I mean, how can you NOT like looking at the old levels?

Because I've seen enough of them. I started playing long before the tileset was what it is now.

Current tileset with bad levels = bad
Old tileset with bad levels = worse.

[FreezeBurnX]

Originally posted by dorfindel
Guys don't be so critical. I really don't think he meant to show it off as being a great level. I mean jesus, it's with the old tileset, and it's before the "Tiling Reformation" of Graal when people first started to learn how to properly use the level editor. So that's not really important.

Chill. I mean, how can you NOT like looking at the old levels? Even if they suck, you've gotta love ancient graal levels

I don't, dude, makes time since the "Tiling Reformation"... I'm tired of those levels and copies... For the third time
Graal < Zelda.

[alarid0]

Originally posted by FreezeBurnX
For the third time
Graal < Zelda.

third time, so you can STOP SAYING it now

[SingleChance]

i unno i kinda think it looks sorta cool

[GoZelda]

Originally posted by FreezeBurnX


Exactly and Graal < Zelda!!

Except for the fact that Graal is with multiple players.

Oh yes, the level is nice but not very detailed. But for what Graal had to offer those days, it is

1337 w00t 1337 c00l o.o

[alarid0]

and it's before the "Tiling Reformation" of Graal when people first started to learn how to properly use the level editor

the tilling reformation...yeah...i really like how people have learned to completly at random throw flowers mushrooms and diffrent grass tiles around to make it look better...when it actually looks kind of uh worse....seriously im the ONLY one that thinks plain and simple in some cases is a good thing

i cant disagree tho that i didnt do such a great job in tililng this..definetly could have been done better

[davidpsy]

Why do you guys have to be so mean to alarid?....

[alarid0]

donald uh i dont really see any major insults here

[GoZelda]

Originally posted by alarid0
donald uh i dont really see any major insults here

Heck, i even said it was pretty good >=O

[TheStivi]

Its Zelda 3 Graphics
but nice idea
rating : 7/10

[niagra475]

i can GIVE you non-believers a copy of the origional, stefan-only graal (without SP lvls ) and then you'll see that his copy of zelda is pretty damn good...

[alarid0]

Oo send meh!

[niagra475]

mkay... give me a day or so to go through the 30 pages of stuff i went through to find it last time...

[niagra475]

. . . oookay it doesn't seem to be ON the site...

www.winsite.com

if you can find it you're a better man/woman/miscillaneous carbon based life-form than i am! :O

[alarid0]

http://www.winsite.com/bin/Info?500000020679



edit: oh i just installed it tho....its not zelda online this version comes after it

[alarid0]

sry for double post, i would have put this in my edit but


why did they replace (that for that -=attachment=-) seriously the old one is alot better

[GoZelda]

Copyright, perhaps?
I mean, heck, why even change the damn tileset?

[Eric_1337]

An error a lot of people miss and i hope you get what im doing here .

[alarid0]

i dont think that makes it look any better