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Old 03-27-2003, 06:39 PM
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Problems, i dont post much anymore but..

ok why the heck were gates removed? and why was there a rumor that they didnt work prior to their removal?

Just for everyones information, they do work, you build it, lock it, then place it on your kingdom island. and double click the shaddow to open..and grab it to pick it up (if you have the key) if not, you walk into it and slice at it because you cant pick it up

Anywho, Why were those removed eh?

Secondly Graal kingdoms is not a melting pot, We should nto all intermingle on main islands, Contrary to Stefan Belife, The islands SHOULD be SELF SUFFICENT. Zormite Should not run into CP hardly at all, unless they have business with eachother. Just as i wont be running down to the store, and run into some people that currently live in china (not likley anyway).


The point of all this is, Main island shoudl be trashed, and its contents spread aroudn the kingdom islands (mines, monsters, ect ect)


Cross shileds and heroic looking swords should only be made on dustari, naginats and katanas should only be made on samurai
Kingdom SPECIFIC things should only be orignally Available on the KINGDOMS islands.


Next i would say, PEACEFUL , after months and months of it still being around, should STILL be removed. Safe zones are fine, but kingdom islands should not be one of them.

EXP loss should also remain, but not level loss (hence a level 15 chould get his but wooped enough to loose all exp but 3000, however still remain at level 15, but he has a HECK of a way to go till 16)


Next, we need a JAIL, that members on graal that have the K right (kings) can jail people in. Yes, shut up peasant! heh. Kings should be able t Jail people on their island. It is their island and they shoudl have the right to, seeing as i can no longer send boukon or some other elite to assassinate people who break the laws (as exp loss no longer exists) we need to jail them, and thats not a very unreasonable thing to ask for. If they dont want to get jailed, Dont hang around someone elses island.

You should not be able to jail anyone in a kingdom listed as ENEMY. you should be able to jail anyone else tho. (should be able to jail allies, neutral, and players with no kingdom, if an ally has a problem with you jailing one of their members well, your probably not going to be allies for very long anyway)


The kings should also retain the right to set their entire kingdom on battle mode , or war mode, or kingdom mode, or whatever you want to call it, for kingdom wars (there arent any anymore, and its rather annoying to organize one now a days also)

ALSO, Too much grass, You want graal kingdoms to be successfull, add more to the damn tileset, how about some waterfalls, or Bushes? Fallen trees...

Ferrys take too long, i no longer propose making them faster, GET RID OF THEM, i enjoy just making a damn boat like way back when and taking it back and fourth, of course, now it takes forever to dig up a damn tree seed.


Speaking of boats, our samurai shipyard is Jammed, some ***** left a boat there, and well the next 20 or 30 just piled up, FIX IT, J00 are HIndering us x.x! heh

ALMOST LAST: Get account admins and such that actually PLAY ON THE GRAAL kingdoms server, i shouldnt see people that want their passwords changed massing for admins all the time, its not right, Most of the newbies that want thigns done, dotn know where to work, graal isnt too newb friendly in that manner. ERr and they did pay like eveyrone else...

LASTLY: Where is my damn exp for the thousands of bread i made back in the day! Im sure my agility would be at least level 10-15 by now. and dont even get into mining x.x!

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Ferry docks suck and get in the way also, another reason i want ferrys removed, Our samurai ferry dock, replaced a very highly used dock and You cant "Latch on" to the ferry docks adn they get in the way.
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Old 03-27-2003, 06:45 PM
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Old 03-27-2003, 06:54 PM
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Yes, shut up peasant!

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Old 03-27-2003, 06:56 PM
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I agree with just about everything Rahz said, but the jail... It should have a set time that the people get out in and the Kings set it, but it cant be over like 10 minutes or something (to not waste their time) and there should be labor involved in jail... Like on 2k1... They made you break stones (wubbed that jail) and not just have it be a 1 room HOoooOOorrrible looking jail like some of the Playerworlds.

One more thing, there should also be resources added to each island, one the other doesnt have. That was we could set up trades and have an economy. That chest in the castle should also be able to be emptied and have money added to it. Then we could use the trading stands. But they shouldnt have their stuff removed every 20 minutes, it should be like if the person signs off then they go into his/her inventory.
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Old 03-27-2003, 07:02 PM
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ah yes, some special new resourses, but not real vital ones,, but that does sound good, samurai coudl have something like, err i dont know, but something,

and to make things a little more interesting so i dot have to ***** about it after the fact, how about some rivers... and bridges...really basic things that graal just seems to be missing and its really annoying heh
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Old 03-27-2003, 07:18 PM
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Re: Problems, i dont post much anymore but..

Lets take a journey through the mind of a *****, shall we?

"The point of all this is, Main island shoudl be trashed, and its contents spread aroudn the kingdom islands (mines, monsters, ect ect)"

Yes, let's trash an island that has been worked on extensively for months, and is a major factor in the game, and spread everything out over 5 islands so that it's a pain in the ass to do anything because you have to ferry across one island to another every ten minutes.

"Cross shileds and heroic looking swords should only be made on dustari, naginats and katanas should only be made on samurai
Kingdom SPECIFIC things should only be orignally Available on the KINGDOMS islands."

Again, you're ruining the diversity. Then only samurai can have samurai looking stuff, and dustari having heroic looking stuff, etc. You said people can be jailed for being on the other islands, yet you say all the content from main needs to be put on these islands. So basically you're saying that if I want to get a naginata and I'm in Forest kingdom, I have to hopefully sneak into Samurai, craft one, and ferry back to my island, and try not to get jailed by Samurai while I'm there? More trouble than it's worth.

"Next i would say, PEACEFUL , after months and months of it still being around, should STILL be removed. Safe zones are fine, but kingdom islands should not be one of them."

You just said remove the main island. There is no "safe zone" left, if you remove the main island and allow PKing on the kingdom islands. If peaceful is removed, people will be pissed. I don't feel like dying just because some level 28 guy decides he wants to kill some innocent people today.

"EXP loss should also remain, but not level loss (hence a level 15 chould get his but wooped enough to loose all exp but 3000, however still remain at level 15, but he has a HECK of a way to go till 16)"

Haha, you're insane. Nobody wants experience loss back. Not only are you implementing playerkilling, but you're removing all safe areas. Then you're making it impossible to even obtain normal items without traveling long distances and sneaking through another kingdom island.

"Next, we need a JAIL, that members on graal that have the K right (kings) can jail people in. Yes, shut up peasant! heh. Kings should be able t Jail people on their island. It is their island and they shoudl have the right to, seeing as i can no longer send boukon or some other elite to assassinate people who break the laws (as exp loss no longer exists) we need to jail them, and thats not a very unreasonable thing to ask for. If they dont want to get jailed, Dont hang around someone elses island."

So people HAVE to be in a kingdom? So people HAVE to stay on the island of their kingdom? That's kind of ruining the point of exploring isn't it? I don't want to sit on Forest island all day. Right, let's give players the right to jail other players. That will go over REAL well. Even with a time limit, it would still be annoying. The king could just jail you for 10 minutes, then when you get out, he could jail you for another 10 minutes, and so on.

"ALSO, Too much grass, You want graal kingdoms to be successfull, add more to the damn tileset, how about some waterfalls, or Bushes? Fallen trees..."

Waterfalls don't work with the terrain. I agree there needs to be some shrubbery though. (wow my god, I agree with something you said!)

"Ferrys take too long, i no longer propose making them faster, GET RID OF THEM, i enjoy just making a damn boat like way back when and taking it back and fourth, of course, now it takes forever to dig up a damn tree seed."

Just make them faster and make two per area. So when one is leaving, another is coming. I don't like waiting for the one boat to come all the way back from the other island, especially when I arrive at the dock a moment too late and miss the boat as it leaves.

"Speaking of boats, our samurai shipyard is Jammed, some ***** left a boat there, and well the next 20 or 30 just piled up, FIX IT, J00 are HIndering us x.x! heh"

It's called, get another boat, go next to the boats, and hit the boats with cannonballs.

"LASTLY: Where is my damn exp for the thousands of bread i made back in the day! Im sure my agility would be at least level 10-15 by now. and dont even get into mining x.x!"

If you had any common sense, you would check your skills "/skills" and notice that baking is listed under MENTAL experience. Not agility. Why would you gain agility experience for baking bread?

I think you're lacking in mental experience, but not on Graal Kingdoms.
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who the hell are you to start flaming you little ****. Disagreeing is one thing but what the ****.

Anyway, Everyone agrees with what ive said, and im posting in the enlightning of others.



Yes main islands contents shoudl be spread about the kingdom islands, Mines and taylors and such on all the islands, i hardly see how that would cause you to leave the ferry island.

and yes, there shoudl be NO peacefull zones on kingdom islands. and as battle mode is now, you cant attakc your members, and sicne our katanas ans ohter KIGNDOM SPECIFIC items would be produced on our islands, our kigndoms would be able to protect our kingdom specific items (so yes samurai would have samurai weapons, unless we let you get one, ohhh what a horrible concept)

lets take..you... for instance. If you were to walk on samurai, i shoudl be able to jail you for disrespect to the Shogonate, either that, or have you killed. as most tyrant like kings would IRL. As long as you are on our ground. and when we kill YOU, YOU should loose experiance. and if YOU some how kill all of US, we should loose experiance.

YES IF YOU WANT A SAMURAI WEAPON, YOU WILL HAVE TO GO TO SAMURAI TO GET IT. its not a hard concept at all to understand. you are just one of those *****s we were discussing about earlier, who just hangs aorund main,and power games all day.

Now, i understand some *****s think that if they take someone elses passage and analyze it pice by pice, that they will look more intelegent. however, in this case, nothing you said, has any ground ..at all. Not to mention you do not comprehend things well and somehow came to the notion that i want a mine on samurai, and no where else, and a tailor on zormite and no where else. but we will excuse that with the fact you are not samurai, thus less superior. ::wink::







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So people HAVE to be in a kingdom? So people HAVE to stay on the island of their kingdom? That's kind of ruining the point of exploring isn't it? I don't want to sit on Forest island all day. Right, let's give players the right to jail other players. That will go over REAL well. Even with a time limit, it would still be annoying. The king could just jail you for 10 minutes, then when you get out, he could jail you for another 10 minutes, and so on.
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If you had any common sense, you would check your skills "/skills" and notice that baking is listed under MENTAL experience. Not agility. Why would you gain agility experience for baking bread?

Is that really a big deal flamer? no it isnt. grow up. The point still stands.
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Old 03-27-2003, 08:15 PM
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You're telling me I'm flaming yet you call me a little ****. Not to mention calling me a ***** about a dozen times. I'm sorry, but I think I know what I'm talking about. I was gamemaster for this server, and I didn't just get the job for no reason, I got it because I knew what to do.

You're just showing how childish you are by talking about being superior to me because I'm not in Samurai. Please hesitate from posting a reply without thinking first. Nothing I said has any ground? Hello? You think because a few people agree with you that everyone agrees with you?

Not to mention the fact that baking and mining raises your mental experience and not your agility, that doesn't have ground? So what, you're calling me a liar?
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I take that back, only one person agreed with you, and that's boukon, and well... it's boukon for crying out loud.

You know you're doing something wrong when boukon is agreeing with it.
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I take that back, only one person agreed with you, and that's boukon, and well... it's boukon for crying out loud.

You know you're doing something wrong when boukon is agreeing with it.
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Not to mention the fact that baking and mining raises your mental experience and not your agility, that doesn't have ground? So what, you're calling me a liar?

yes it does not have any ground to the context of the message. Which the point was, those who mined and baked before the exp came out, shoudl also get some sort of Exp in return for that. what type of Exp it was really does not matter. of course, any idiot could say that. if i said "where is my bubble fluff exp" the context of the message is still the same and what type of exp it is is still irrelavant. you are just a flamer. admit, accept, and change it.
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Nice work Rahz, I had similar ideas about separating all the weapons up to the kingdom islands. I even made a list of all the weapons and where they should go. Doing this would also stop a great deal of the annoyance that was presented by Zormite getting a bunch of weapons and no other kingdoms get their own. (In this case the Zormite Blade should be changed to Cresent Blade)

And about EXP loss, I agree it should still be there, but not that way, otherwise people will just die and die and die and eventually not be able to drop down a level and therefore have not penalty for death. EXP loss should be like it was only not in such quantity, I died at level 20 and lost a million EXP, I mean COME ON! The formula for EXP loss should be something like "(SkillLevel*10)^2" for each of the skill levels. So say someone is level 15 Physical and they die, instead of losing an assload of EXP he would only lose 22,500 ((15*10)^2).

And anyway yeah thats just my two cents....
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Old 03-28-2003, 01:39 AM
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Shrimp, that is stupid. You don't care about losing exp because you never will. You are too strong to be killed by anyone -_-
What about the newbies? x.x
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Newbies can level up and deal with it like they did in the past, plus what if I was to SOMEHOW, dont know how, get mad at shrimp, i could sneak attack a critical his way and maybe hit him while he is afk... then he would die... Now, about koni... You seriously dont have to analize like that, its pointless and actually you messed up in what you said and it caught my eye and... of course... like all evil people... I chuckled XD.

(a quote from koni)
""So people HAVE to be in a kingdom? So people HAVE to stay on the island of their kingdom? That's kind of ruining the point of exploring isn't it? I don't want to sit on Forest island all day. Right, let's give players the right to jail other players. That will go over REAL well. Even with a time limit, it would still be annoying. The king could just jail you for 10 minutes, then when you get out, he could jail you for another 10 minutes, and so on. ""

Im sure there would be a time limit that they could jail you in.. like every 2 hours you could be jailed again... and it is KINGDOMS and so people should be in KINGDOMS or it should just be called Graal World or something...

Plus the Graal world isnt even big, no one explores anymore, unless youre Mr. Koni, Dr. Newb, who investigates peoples posts.

The major problem i found was in this...

(quote from koni)
""Speaking of boats, our samurai shipyard is Jammed, some ***** left a boat there, and well the next 20 or 30 just piled up, FIX IT, J00 are HIndering us x.x! heh"

It's called, get another boat, go next to the boats, and hit the boats with cannonballs.""


If you werent a ***** youd know that YOU CANNOT FIRE CANNONBALLS IN SHIPYARDS... That was put there to stop other kingdoms (ally kingdoms) from going in an destroying the ships... That is a VERY common fact and you, out of all people, should know that.

And about me not mattering? Sorry but I bet if I got a chance I could be 30 times better than you ever were at ANY staff position.. besides making levels or scripting, since sorta lazy and I dont find it fun. I know just about everything about graal kingdoms and Ive memorized the map, let alone Im smarter than you and could think up actual ORIGINAL events, unlike HEY! LETS GO RACE! THEN DIG! AND SHOOT AT PEOPLE ON A BOAT! WEWT WEWT! SOUNDS AWSOME!..... Sorry, but your events were stupid......... not to mention, Hey! Lets do a puzzle thing with questions i can find on the internet if I look in google! Do you realize, I could have won an inferno if I didnt want to cheat it? I looked all your questions up later and found every single one of them on google. Just another sign of not being original.

Oh, and I also think there should be a special thing for the death penalty... so you dont have to chase those people down that were being *****ic and hateful to their kingdom. Like a containment cell that you can trap them with if they are on your kingdom for 10 minutes after setting their account to Death Sentance rank or something like that.... to give them time to run.




And koni, DO NOT DOUBLE POST... ewww use edit button man! Gosh!
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Nice work Rahz, I had similar ideas about separating all the weapons up to the kingdom islands. I even made a list of all the weapons and where they should go. Doing this would also stop a great deal of the annoyance that was presented by Zormite getting a bunch of weapons and no other kingdoms get their own. (In this case the Zormite Blade should be changed to Cresent Blade)

And about EXP loss, I agree it should still be there, but not that way, otherwise people will just die and die and die and eventually not be able to drop down a level and therefore have not penalty for death. EXP loss should be like it was only not in such quantity, I died at level 20 and lost a million EXP, I mean COME ON! The formula for EXP loss should be something like "(SkillLevel*10)^2" for each of the skill levels. So say someone is level 15 Physical and they die, instead of losing an assload of EXP he would only lose 22,500 ((15*10)^2).

And anyway yeah thats just my two cents....

yea, i guess your right, my exp loss idea was influenced by a friend heh, but i think it shoudl be how it was i guess, but not so great like you said


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Shrimp, that is stupid. You don't care about losing exp because you never will. You are too strong to be killed by anyone -_-
What about the newbies? x.x
Newbies, and people like me who have 800+ hours and are still weak, should stay in hiding, or whatever it takes to live. But really, IF shrimp is elite, then i guess he has the right to rip my head off as he feels fit due to the fact he spent more work in the dungeons, while i sat my fat but in my thrown on samurai =P


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