Stefan, please look at this topic.

Birdbird_0 · #1 06-06-2001, 02:50 PM

It has become a sort of, Frensey amoung players now to suddenly sell scripts of newmain on newmain! On an avrege 10 min period I get about 4 mass pms of people selling the minning npc,jumprope,birdcatching,ctf,and other tings that are uniquke to NewMain, The Police dont seem to jail them because they are not sure if it is eligale or not. After reading this I hope you will give the say so to jail these people plainly put by Lugie "The NPC black market" out of busness, They should not profiet from your and the other members of the staffs work. Thank you.

Birdbird_0 · #2 06-07-2001, 02:31 AM

Please tell me your coments on this matter people/

View GraalOnline Profile · #3 06-07-2001, 02:32 AM

I don't think it's too cool, personally. But hey, people are trying to get money in as many ways as they can.

CrazedMerlin · #4 06-07-2001, 02:33 AM

It's because when a playerworld goes p2p stefan uploads the scripts to the FTP and on Enigma they were leaked *cough* warcaptain *cough*
The 2 reasons enigma went p2p was because warcaptain wanted a free p2p account and he wanted the scripts.

Birdbird_0 · #5 06-07-2001, 02:33 AM

::blurs vistion with lcd screen:: wha??

Cloud_X · #6 06-07-2001, 02:33 AM

They should learn to script it themselves =[

View GraalOnline Profile · #7 06-07-2001, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cloud_X
They should learn to script it themselves =[

Yeah, true. I can't script worth crap, but I don't care. No one will teach me, anyway.

BruceLee2000 · #8 06-07-2001, 02:36 AM

FREE ENTERPRISE!!#

Kaimetsu · #9 06-07-2001, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garnet_Mithica

Yeah, true. I can't script worth crap, but I don't care. No one will teach me, anyway.

You can't teach scripting. Ask Stefan or Kyle or Tyhm who taught them, for example. Skill comes from a compulsive need to make everything neat and perfect and efficient and, luckily for most people, it's a very selective occupation. Only a few people can do it without going too crazy.

activeconvict · #10 06-07-2001, 03:20 AM

Yesterday, via e-mail, somebody sent me the bomy pet script. I have no clue why, but I think it's the real deal, it's very long and everything looks right.

Kaimetsu · #11 06-07-2001, 03:22 AM

What's that text at the bottom of your sig, James?

Huggles · #12 06-07-2001, 03:40 AM

Cloud Strife was trading NW stuff for Graal2001 scripts ;D

Huggles · #13 06-07-2001, 03:41 AM

I cannot script worth crap... Thats what bruges for he scripts for me or goku ;D

Lycia · #14 06-07-2001, 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kaimetsu

You can't teach scripting. Ask Stefan or Kyle or Tyhm who taught them, for example. Skill comes from a compulsive need to make everything neat and perfect and efficient and, luckily for most people, it's a very selective occupation. Only a few people can do it without going too crazy.

?

Stefan didn't get taught NPC scripting. He is the God of NPC Scripting. He made up the bloody language, for crying out loud.

Kyle, I think learned it on his own with some help from others, and Tyhm learned in the same fashion.

I dunno if I'm arguing this correctly, but, as everything else, I'm probably interpreting everything wrong so I will just shut up now.

Kaimetsu · #15 06-07-2001, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lycia

Stefan didn't get taught NPC scripting. He is the God of NPC Scripting. He made up the bloody language, for crying out loud.

There's a difference between "NPC Scripting" and "Graal Scripting." Besides, he still needs to learn and develop techniques just like the rest of us. After all scripting isn't just about learning all the commands.

Quote:

Kyle, I think learned it on his own with some help from others, and Tyhm learned in the same fashion.

Exactly my point. Same goes for that other great scripter, Kaimetsu

activeconvict · #16 06-07-2001, 03:49 AM

Lycia, Graal Scripting is basically C++ in a modified way.

What text? The New World Order text?

Kaimetsu · #17 06-07-2001, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by activeconvict
Lycia, Graal Scripting is basically C++ in a modified way.

What text? The New World Order text?

Ah, I couldn't make out the "Order" bit. Does that refer to Graal NW?

activeconvict · #18 06-07-2001, 03:58 AM

Actually it's a group that a whole bunch of my art/image buddies made. You might see some pics by them if you goto a lot of art/image websites. I personally made that one. But in no way is it affiliated with WCW's nWo.

Krakken_2001 · #19 06-07-2001, 04:27 AM

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Originally posted by Lycia

Kyle, I think learned it on his own with some help from others, and Tyhm learned in the same fashion.

I did too... I wasnt that great at scripting until I met Kai a year ago... He is the greatest geometrics scripter I have ever seen on graal and he toulght me soo much =)

Kaimetsu · #20 06-07-2001, 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krakken_2001

I did too... I wasnt that great at scripting until I met Kai a year ago... He is the greatest geometrics scripter I have ever seen on graal and he toulght me soo much =)

Geometry becomes less useful online, because Graal isn't suited to clientside parametric movements. Moving something twenty times per second does tend to produce a lot of lag. Still, it makes pretteee effects offline

Huggles · #21 06-07-2001, 04:40 AM

No cloud strife was trading New World.exe from email for graal2001 scripts

Krakken_2001 · #22 06-07-2001, 04:43 AM

Hehe... I think I owe most of my NPC scripting career in graal to Kai... hes the greatest =)

TB3 · #23 06-07-2001, 04:47 AM

I learned everything i know by myself completely no help and it was hard in a way but i know it i didnt learn it i know it completely now but i can use much more knowledge especialy in some math departments i know enough but i need more and kia be teachin the best so yous better teach me too O_o and get me a dictionary ! =P

FxChiP · #24 06-07-2001, 04:52 AM

Getting back to the point...

I think that everyone who sells a script should be banned. I wouldn't have any problem with it if it was one of my scripts that I worked on because I was bored or something, I wouldn't care much. But if I worked hard on it and I didn't want it distributed, and that's what they were doing, I would get pissed. I'm sure that Stefan and all the other scripters feel the same way.

Also, I think that it's illegal to sell those scripts. Aren't they copyrighted?

FxChiP · #25 06-07-2001, 04:53 AM

Oh yeah, didn't feel like editing the last post, but I realize I contradicted myself.

I think that anyone who sells Graal 2001 scripts should be banned, because of all the hard work Stefan and others put into the scripts.

activeconvict · #26 06-07-2001, 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FxChiP
Getting back to the point...

I think that everyone who sells a script should be banned. I wouldn't have any problem with it if it was one of my scripts that I worked on because I was bored or something, I wouldn't care much. But if I worked hard on it and I didn't want it distributed, and that's what they were doing, I would get pissed. I'm sure that Stefan and all the other scripters feel the same way.

Also, I think that it's illegal to sell those scripts. Aren't they copyrighted?

I'm pretty sure they are. So I see it as, it's illegal to sell them, we need Mafukie to make a new rule. Otherwise I have no power to do anything about it.

galen · #27 06-07-2001, 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by Huggles
No cloud strife was trading New World.exe from email for graal2001 scripts

I bet 'New World.exe' was a trojan

Huggles · #28 06-07-2001, 07:02 AM

Nope Im pretty sure it was Graal-NW and alot of levels of Tespan levels....

Cloud strife offered me it gave me access to his email.......

Its there alright... and I dont think he was joking.

Admins · #29 06-07-2001, 09:02 AM

Buying scripts would be really stupid.
When a server is upgraded I am uploading
scripts to their ftp, also I give them the
Graal2001 scripts if the owner asks me
for it. Since the npcserver scripts only work
on npcserver it will not be of much use for
other people.
Some scripts like mining are not released yet,
I would wonder if someone has it.
The other scripts (e.g. jump'n'run and bomy
player race) can be used offline too and
also on free servers, but servers will be shut down
if its used without asking me (bomy player race
is disallowed, but jump'n'run would be ok,
better than the crappy scripts used on some
places on Graal ...).

activeconvict · #30 06-07-2001, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
Buying scripts would be really stupid.
When a server is upgraded I am uploading
scripts to their ftp, also I give them the
Graal2001 scripts if the owner asks me
for it. Since the npcserver scripts only work
on npcserver it will not be of much use for
other people.
Some scripts like mining are not released yet,
I would wonder if someone has it.
The other scripts (e.g. jump'n'run and bomy
player race) can be used offline too and
also on free servers, but servers will be shut down
if its used without asking me (bomy player race
is disallowed, but jump'n'run would be ok,
better than the crappy scripts used on some
places on Graal ...).

Haha, Stefan. :-)

Watch your language!

Hehe, just kiddin'.

XilosTinsu · #31 06-07-2001, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stefan
The other scripts (e.g. jump'n'run and bomy
player race) can be used offline too and
also on free servers, but servers will be shut down
if its used without asking me (bomy player race
is disallowed, but jump'n'run would be ok,
better than the crappy scripts used on some
places on Graal ...).

Can you send me the jump'n'run script???
[email protected]

KJS · #32 06-07-2001, 10:45 AM

it is ez really

if(playertouchsme)
toweapons jump rope;
if(weaponfired)
setani skip,;

(well I am not sure if that is the exact from 2001 but that is how I would script it)

XilosTinsu · #33 06-07-2001, 06:05 PM

DOH not the jumprope script I already know that, the Jump'n'Run with Gravity etc.

Fai · #34 06-07-2001, 06:08 PM

DONT GIVV OUT G2K1 SCRIPTS

View GraalOnline Profile · #35 06-07-2001, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fai
DONT GIVV OUT G2K1 SCRIPTS

Another intelligent post by Fai (not sarcasm). This one is almost as good as "DELETE PWS".

toad1413 · #36 06-07-2001, 07:30 PM

Could I please have the Graal2001 Jump'n'run script Stefan because I am trying to make a new Jump'nrun hangout for the Zormites. Why did you take that and the Zormite Morphing tool away anyway?

my email is [email protected]

Kaimetsu · #37 06-07-2001, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TB3
I learned everything i know by myself completely no help and it was hard in a way but i know it i didnt learn it i know it completely now but i can use much more knowledge especialy in some math departments i know enough but i need more and kia be teachin the best so yous better teach me too O_o and get me a dictionary ! =P

I refuse to teach people who don't spell my name correctly.

Krakken_2001 · #38 06-07-2001, 10:33 PM

lolz... try Kaimetsu... thats hard to mess up for some reason..

CJH · #39 06-08-2001, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Garnet_Mithica
I don't think it's too cool, personally. But hey, people are trying to get money in as many ways as they can.

Your right, but he has a point too, the GP's should know what they have to do =/

Kaimetsu · #40 06-08-2001, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Krakken_2001
lolz... try Kaimetsu... thats hard to mess up for some reason..

People always call me "Kaimestu". Or, on bad days, "Kiamiaemiutsteu".