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Old 11-14-2002, 04:22 AM
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Second round for Cynical: Review (finally, a new review!)

Well it's certainly been a while has it? Yeah, sure thing. By now I bet the Cynical staff have either scrolled down to the bottom of my post or are bickering at me for not getting on with it, haha. Anyways, here we go.

Booj, Raven and his team removed the storyline from the server. Although it had some good points to it I simply didn't think it was required, and that there were not enough elements in the actual server itself for the storyline to consistently survive in the overworld. This server is more of a UN'ish server in gameplay, not in quality so I think it was for the best. Therefore...

Storyline - 7.5/10 - All servers with no storyline but CAN PROVE that the storyline in a server is not necessary and can still attract the player (or in this case the reviewer) to continue gaming gets a 7.5/10

Creativity - 8/10 - Still the same as my last review. This is a server which knows what kind of audience it is targeting and has customized it's server towards it. It's not like some servers where they want to appeal to role-players yet have a largely community oriented server along with some hardcore economy based aspects (like Graal Bomy Moon once was). The server doesn't have one big thing that makes people go "wow, I want to play it" but instead has consistently interesting things all over the map that makes Cynical, well, Cynical. It's own unique playerworld. I also like it how it appeals to guilds as well (with the guild town, but by now that may not have the same effect as if they wanted a few months ago) but not in a messy way, the guild houses and buildings fit in well with the overworld. I know you guys have some blank spaces in your overworld (bottom center of your map a big green space) and I'd prefer you fill up that space with something, but you still have the level requirements.

Levels - 9.5/10 - I can finally begin to appreciate some of the level work here, that's why you got +.5 more compared to last time I reviewed. The levels are probably as good as they're going to get when it comes to a playerworld made with the regular tileset. Nothing outrageous or controversial here, it looks very nice. I don't think I found any major tile errors which is always a plus, but I thought some of the tiles (like in the vase quest) may have been a bit harsh on the eyes and also some locations where you placed baddies may not have been the best. Mass baddie respawning points isn't the best thing to do (the octupi in the large bottom right hand corner of the map quest). Still, those are really minor problems, good work on the levels!

NPC's 6 /10 - The NPC's are still much the same as before, I didn't find anything new, but I may have missed something, that's why I gace it a -1 compared to my last review. Standards for playerworlds and their NPC's will continue to rise. We've seen some revolutionary NPC's created in the last little while, especially on Graal Kingdoms. I'm not saying that you guys have to make Graal Kingdoms quality NPC's, but I thought there could have been a bit more here. You've got all the basic NPC's like hammers, shovels, swords and the whole bit, but nothing that stood out and impressed me. Maybe you guys can make a few more better NPC's later on, but I am still keeping in mind that your server isn't out to impress with flashy NPC's, but to create a good stable gaming environment. The GUI had some minor changes in it, and I think you can still set your HP bar to customize your style, but the q menu was very nice, just make sure you leave some room to add onto it in the future (if you have more towns etc). Please inform me if I'm wrong about any of your NPC info I posted.

Quests - 6.5/10 - Not bad at all. You guys had lots of quests on your server and you even mentioned some weren't listed (unfortunately, I was unable to find any). Each quest has a different requirement, whether it be certain items or different NPC's you must possess. Some of them were tough to get into as well so that's good to always offer a challenge. I am still having the problem, however, with the quest content. Some of them are still primarily slash the baddies even if they do have a sequence of steps you must complete to get to the end (go see person X, then send this to person Y, enter quest Z and so forth). The reason your mark jumped +1 from my last review was because of the new ice quest (I didn't get to play all of it because for some reason it wouldn't work for me, but definately an improvement) and also some of the quests were modified a bit.

Overall Score: 37.5/50

Cynical's status: Pass!



Edit: They finished their website, it's at http://cynical.aotaonline.com

As for who this server goes to after the website, I'm not sure. I'm afraid I haven't seen Nemesis for quite some time, not in game or on AIM
Torankusu has already passed it, but I don't know if he needs it again or not, that's why I need to talk to Nemesis as soon as possible.

Anyhow, good job to the Cynical team.
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Old 11-14-2002, 04:27 AM
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yea it's been very long indeed since the last pw review posted here.

Anyways good review aftershock and congrats to the cynical team for passing the review
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Old 11-14-2002, 04:48 AM
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Old 11-14-2002, 05:24 AM
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Old 11-14-2002, 05:28 AM
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I think Unixmad should provide 50MB or something for each server for a site with FTP and file manager access. As well, this can be for servers that are "pending" and need a site and have passed the review of the PW testers.
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Old 11-14-2002, 05:35 AM
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What I'd like the know with is what is with the name? Was it a random word in the dictionary or something X_x
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Old 11-14-2002, 05:41 AM
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Old 11-14-2002, 05:42 AM
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Why does the server need a website?
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Old 11-14-2002, 05:51 AM
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Why does the server need a website?
Yea, that was dumb untill Aftershock/Nemesis told me (Renegade). Stefan doesn't have time to go through the PW so you have to put a website with Screenshots that will impress him (which isn't hard ;p)
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Old 11-14-2002, 05:53 AM
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O, BTW Good luck with your servers guys and hope your hard work pays off
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Old 11-14-2002, 07:49 AM
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The site requirement is quite nice I think. It makes your server look better if you get a person that can code with html and php etc...
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Old 11-14-2002, 07:50 AM
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The site requirement is quite nice I think. It makes your server look better if you get a person that can code with html and php etc...
I don't see how that makes a server look better.

I can see the use for the screenshots etc for quickness for a brief idea of what the servers like but it shouldn't be a requirment.
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Old 11-14-2002, 08:28 AM
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I wanna see it online so I made them a layout.
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Old 11-14-2002, 08:31 AM
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I'll make a better one. That was 15 minutes of work.
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Old 11-14-2002, 09:10 AM
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I wanna see it online so I made them a layout.
thats pretty nice though.
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:05 AM
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http://cynical.aotaonline.com/

dev. log (website coming soon)
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:11 AM
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First screeny the shadowing is all wrong ;-( and there are tile errors.
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:23 AM
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First screeny the shadowing is all wrong ;-( and there are tile errors.
are you suggesting that if I go on an online playerworld right now I wont see something like this?
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:29 AM
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Are you suggesting that you can slack off and do what other servers do just because they got up?
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:37 AM
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Ok, sorry. But I dont care if theres a tile error, as long as people have fun..
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:53 AM
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Are you suggesting that you can slack off and do what other servers do just because they got up?
*looks closely* nope, i don't see any PWA tag... maybe it's under the Irritating Critic tag o.o
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Old 11-14-2002, 10:55 AM
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I'm hoping that Cynical can be the first server that actually goes up private for a few weeks, then actually gets into public mode. Usually the transitional point always messes people up for some reason
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Old 11-14-2002, 11:10 AM
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I'm hoping that Cynical can be the first server that actually goes up private for a few weeks, then actually gets into public mode. Usually the transitional point always messes people up for some reason
change the pending tag

i didnt want to upgrade or make ne new npcs cause I figured Id have to convert them later on... so Id rather do it online

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Old 11-15-2002, 03:26 PM
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Old 11-16-2002, 07:02 PM
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Old 11-16-2002, 07:51 PM
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I hope cynical doesnt go to private pit.Once there in private they never can get out.
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Old 11-19-2002, 04:35 AM
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Most of them decide to redo PW, or someone quits which stops development. And most of the UC ones didnt go UC saying ''We need to fix stuff, back in a few weeks'' about 3-4 went there to start froms cratch there abouts! Most of them do get done quick as long as people dont go corrupt/quit or decide to redo it all.
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Old 11-21-2002, 01:02 AM
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Old 11-28-2002, 05:17 PM
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...so when's is goin up, y0?
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Old 11-28-2002, 05:23 PM
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...so when's is goin up, y0?
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Most of you may be saying to yourselfs "Yeah! Sure! he's quit like 4 times already, hes gunna come back!"
Buy guess what?! Im not! I AM NOT ONLY QUITTING BABYLON, BUT GRAAL TOO!
What happened to the Beachbum account, anyway?
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Old 11-28-2002, 05:37 PM
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Graal forum's isn't Graal itself, now is it? and the Beachbum account ran out i guess (stopped workin)
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Old 11-28-2002, 07:58 PM
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Graal forum's isn't Graal itself, now is it? and the Beachbum account ran out i guess (stopped workin)
Why not upgrade that instead of Wang144?
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