Mods and Players and should read this.

VampiricTutorNewHD · #1 09-06-2002, 12:27 AM

Here are a few suggestions, mods/players(and Unixmad, but in all likelyhood he won't read this).

You have to be reasonable. If there is no forum to post important things/complaints that have no particular topic, make one. The logical thing that would automatically lure people to post stuff like that on the 2001 forums is because they are the most active.

Therefore, you shouldn't take such a harsh stance against people who post things here if they are out of context. They may be confused as where to post their message. I don't believe talking down to them and/or warning them and sometimes deleting their message is appropriate action. Simply forum PM them their mistake and move it to the appropriate forum. If they continue to place similar threads on the 2001 forums, then a warning is merited.

As customers of the Cyberjouers business, the people have a right to post their concerns about the company(rather they should have). Perhaps if the management were a little more understanding and kind to the players?

I realize that all the fault does not lie on the management. Indeed, I've seen many players who act unreasonably. However, I don't believe you should take out acts of aggression against the responsible people. If you wish to do that to people who just strive to cause trouble, fine.

Additionally, on the issue of moderators swearing. This should be an extreme no-no, under any circumstances. Moderators are there to prevent people from breaking rules, not to break rules themselves. Swearing only proves that you are not the right person for the job. You should be able to put up with abuse, because it IS only a game. If the abuse gets out of hand, warn the abusers that they should stop or face consequences.

Graal is a game. People need to realize it is a game. People who get worked up over it need to take a nice break and get some air. Moderators are here to help and provide assistance, not be your enemy. If you treat people with respect, they will treat you with respect. If you have bad history with someone, don't make it the future too. Don't make sure that someone gets their comings, make sure you don't earn any yourself.

I'm sure people who consider buying Graal read the forums before they purchase their account. If they read posts that had the above standards applied to them, then they would be alot more encouraged then seeing players bash moderators and eachother, and moderators bashing players.

AlexH · #2 09-06-2002, 12:42 AM

I agree with the fact we need a fourm to discuss general Graal if we arn't allowed to post it in the Graal 2001 main fourm. There are things that we discuss that don't fit into any of the catagories there.

But a complaints fourm?
That should definetly not a good idea.
I come here to be entertained and have the odd debate over something not to read a bunch of people saying "I hate _____"
"_____ is a _____ because...."
Problems with anyone, staff or player should be taken up with them personally.

VampiricTutorNewHD · #3 09-06-2002, 12:44 AM

Not a complaints forum. A suggestion box.

AlexH · #4 09-06-2002, 12:48 AM

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Originally posted by VampiricTutorNewHD
Not a complaints forum. A suggestion box.

Future Imporvements?

VampiricTutorNewHD · #5 09-06-2002, 12:57 AM

Do Stefan or Unixmad actually read it? In addition, I think that a complaints forum isn't a bad idea. Criticism is the cornerstone for developement.

ZanderX · #6 09-06-2002, 08:04 AM

There is no rule saying you can never swear.

I didn't read the rest of it, I will later.

Flamingblaze · #7 09-06-2002, 08:29 AM

Vamp's right, in essence you all suck big donkey balls.

IceHawk · #8 09-06-2002, 09:30 AM

i wish the forum was open to PW and Classic people.

It would add diversity.

But alas, I don't think Unixmad listens to us

VampiricTutorNewHD · #9 09-06-2002, 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX
There is no rule saying you can never swear.

Rules don't matter. What image you set for others to percieve you as does. Sure, rules make guidelines. But if you act with common sense, you won't need them. Ever.

ZanderX · #10 09-06-2002, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by VampiricTutorNewHD
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[b]Rules don't matter.

Rules are everything.

IceHawk · #11 09-06-2002, 09:35 PM

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Originally posted by VampiricTutorNewHD

Rules don't matter. What image you set for others to percieve you as does. Sure, rules make guidelines. But if you act with common sense, you won't need them. Ever.

You're ignoring the fact that most people on this
forum lack common sense.

VampiricTutorNewHD · #12 09-06-2002, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

Rules are everything.

Well, coming from you that is scarcely believable(Sorry, couldn't resist).

Anyway, if people read and understood the above, we wouldn't have a problem.

ZanderX · #13 09-07-2002, 05:40 AM

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Originally posted by VampiricTutorNewHD

Well, coming from you that is scarcely believable(Sorry, couldn't resist).

Anyway, if people read and understood the above, we wouldn't have a problem.

Yes, because I follow the rules and am a moderator who follows them explicitly.

YES YES YES IT MEANS NOTHING AND IS BARELY BELIEVABLE OMFG.

Glory · #14 09-07-2002, 05:41 AM

EXCUSE ME WHY WAS MY THREAD MOVED TO NGRF AND HIS GETS TO STAY >=(

Neglegence2002 · #15 09-07-2002, 05:43 AM

I would like to state something here.

Icehawk why did you close a GOOD Nintendo thread, becasue of "FLAMING CONSOLS." You idiot, you should be removed from mod, that is NO reason for closing a thread.

ZanderX · #16 09-07-2002, 05:45 AM

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Originally posted by Neglegence2002
I would like to state something here.

Icehawk why did you close a GOOD Nintendo thread, becasue of "FLAMING CONSOLS." You idiot, you should be removed from mod, that is NO reason for closing a thread.

Actually, it is, we (the moderators) deemed that continuous console flaming is illegal. There's a thread for it that no one decides to post in, so threads that get turned into console wars are closed/deleted/etc.

At any rate, you can take it up with IceHawk privately, this is no place for it.

Glory · #17 09-07-2002, 05:45 AM

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Originally posted by Neglegence2002
I would like to state something here.

Icehawk why did you close a GOOD Nintendo thread, becasue of "FLAMING CONSOLS." You idiot, you should be removed from mod, that is NO reason for closing a thread.

I agree remove him because he said "****" and "****ing" kthxbye

ZanderX · #18 09-07-2002, 05:45 AM

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Originally posted by Glory
EXCUSE ME WHY WAS MY THREAD MOVED TO NGRF AND HIS GETS TO STAY >=(

I didn't move your, bud. :|

Glory · #19 09-07-2002, 05:48 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

I didn't move your, bud. :|

But! Mine is better and have good posts so move it here and I will be happy and take you away from list of mods...because you did me that little kind favour you always wanted to do but it couldn';t escape your heart? Plus I will give you a cookie and a hug! limited time only tho

Neglegence2002 · #20 09-07-2002, 05:52 AM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

Actually, it is, we (the moderators) deemed that continuous console flaming is illegal. There's a thread for it that no one decides to post in, so threads that get turned into console wars are closed/deleted/etc.

At any rate, you can take it up with IceHawk privately, this is no place for it.

What has this place come to? It's consoles... not another MMORPH er w/e, and besides no one was flaming consoles, they were debating on who made Mario and other nintendo chars.

As for this illegal crap, flaming consoles is not bad, you act like it is a CAPITAL sin, GET OVER IT.

Glory · #21 09-07-2002, 05:54 AM

*looks at my custom title* hmmm GOOGI PM ME ON HOW TO BE LIKE YOU THX.

VampiricTutorNewHD · #22 09-07-2002, 05:56 AM

All of you shut the hell up and stop flaming in my post. You are doing exactly what is stated you SHOULDN'T do, and ironically enough in the thread that states it.

Glory · #23 09-07-2002, 05:58 AM

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Originally posted by VampiricTutorNewHD
All of you shut the hell up and stop flaming in my post. You are doing exactly what is stated you SHOULDN'T do, and ironically enough in the thread that states it.

NOT LIKE THEY CARE ANYWAY!!!!!!!!! ANYWAY GO TO NGRF MY TOPIC IS BIGGER =)

VampiricTutorNewHD · #24 09-07-2002, 06:01 AM

Mine is written in a fair and balanced matter, from both perspectives. It's not always the mod's fault. Some players just ask for it.

Glory · #25 09-07-2002, 06:11 AM

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Originally posted by VampiricTutorNewHD
Mine is written in a fair and balanced matter, from both perspectives. It's not always the mod's fault. Some players just ask for it.

TRUE BUT MINE IS BETTER OK?

ZanderX · #26 09-07-2002, 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by Neglegence2002

What has this place come to? It's consoles... not another MMORPH er w/e, and besides no one was flaming consoles, they were debating on who made Mario and other nintendo chars.

As for this illegal crap, flaming consoles is not bad, you act like it is a CAPITAL sin, GET OVER IT.

When it causes threads to go off topic and to become incredibly convoluted, then it becomes a capital sin.

Here's a great idea: Don't post if you don't like how we run the place. kthx.

VampiricTutorNewHD · #27 09-07-2002, 07:29 AM

Saying that isn't right, Kamuii. It's not as though the forums are free. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

ZanderX · #28 09-07-2002, 07:32 AM

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Originally posted by VampiricTutorNewHD
Everyone is entitled to an opinion.

No, no, not really.

*sighs*

VampiricTutorNewHD · #29 09-07-2002, 07:40 AM

I wish mods would share my view...

SingleChance · #30 09-07-2002, 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

No, no, not really.

*sighs*

why the hell not

Neglegence2002 · #31 09-07-2002, 12:41 PM

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Originally posted by VampiricTutorNewHD
I wish mods would share my view...

Hey, join the club.....

ZanderX · #32 09-07-2002, 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by SingleChance

why the hell not

Because this is a private forum where you subject yourselves to our whims.

Quote:

Neg and the VampiricTutorNewHD guy came out of their respective closets to say this:

I wish mods would share my view...

And I wish the regular members would share mine; sucks, doesn't it?

Flamingblaze · #33 09-07-2002, 02:06 PM

What sucks is the shitty elitist attitude you have.

ZanderX · #34 09-07-2002, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Flamingblaze
What sucks is the shitty elitist attitude you have.

I guess. I simply carry out my job with authority; if that makes me have an elitist attitude, so be it. I really don't care.