A theory

[TrueHeaT]

Perhaps the reason it appears that stefan and unixmad "get nothing done" is because they are forced to deal with all the problems of the many bad playerworlds.

every day i see a new thread or something of that sort about how some bad staff got ftp and deleted everything on "playerworldia" or "graalica"

stefan and unixmad have to deal with millions of emails, pms, and stuff like that about this, and eventually they have to deal with it

solution: either get rid of all bad playerworld and set higher standards, or simply state that neither stefan or unixmad will provide service to playerworlds, and not letting bad staff get ahold of ftp and deleting the playerworld is the owners' responsibility

[albus777]

A combination of both of those would be nice.

[Sir_Gareth]

that doesnt happen that often that that causes them to not do work.

[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by Sir_Gareth
that doesnt happen that often that that causes them to not do work.

I see it all the time. Not just someone got ftp and deleted everything, but "npc server went down" or something else. I'm sure it happens almost every day on one PW or another

[Antago]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Perhaps the reason it appears that stefan and unixmad "get nothing done" is because they are forced to deal with all the problems of the many bad playerworlds.

every day i see a new thread or something of that sort about how some bad staff got ftp and deleted everything on "playerworldia" or "graalica"

stefan and unixmad have to deal with millions of emails, pms, and stuff like that about this, and eventually they have to deal with it

solution: either get rid of all bad playerworld and set higher standards, or simply state that neither stefan or unixmad will provide service to playerworlds, and not letting bad staff get ahold of ftp and deleting the playerworld is the owners' responsibility

i think it's ridiculous to have playerworlds anyway. i liked the concept of G----Server. stefan could always give them the power to host their servers, but charge them for it. that's when graal prospered most...

[Sir_Gareth]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


I see it all the time. Not just someone got ftp and deleted everything, but "npc server went down" or something else. I'm sure it happens almost every day on one PW or another

NPC Servers have auto reboot now.

[Graal2001_LAT]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Perhaps the reason it appears that stefan and unixmad "get nothing done" is because they are forced to deal with all the problems of the many bad playerworlds.

every day i see a new thread or something of that sort about how some bad staff got ftp and deleted everything on "playerworldia" or "graalica"

stefan and unixmad have to deal with millions of emails, pms, and stuff like that about this, and eventually they have to deal with it

solution: either get rid of all bad playerworld and set higher standards, or simply state that neither stefan or unixmad will provide service to playerworlds, and not letting bad staff get ahold of ftp and deleting the playerworld is the owners' responsibility

That is one thing I look forward to in the future of Graal. The deletion of playerworlds under the standard. That would mean more players travel to other servers, making higher server populations, which make many server opportunities! I suppose they don't want to face all the controversy from people who either worked on the shutdown PW or played it.

That is why we keep them informed on the PW forum about which servers have a chance to be taken down, and they need so and so in an order of time to stay up. If not boom! Server gone.

[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by Antago


i think it's ridiculous to have playerworlds anyway. i liked the concept of G----Server. stefan could always give them the power to host their servers, but charge them for it. that's when graal prospered most...

i agree.
It'd be okay if there were a couple, 2 or 3 PWs online and they were quality, like 2k1 or something, but instead we get like 10 playerworlds that are worse than classic (excluding my dear lovely providence)

i remember when i was PW reviewer, I accepted two great playerworlds, Providence and Murasamune. Stefan didn't want to upload either, saying providence didn't have enough stuff (which was rubbish) and something similar for Murasamune (which featured amazing NPCs and graphics)

this brings up another point: stefan has NO TASTE

G2K1 has a Graal counterstrike game and that terrible hunting park, which PROVES that he has no taste.

Oy vey, there's no solution

[TrueHeaT]

Actually, just make me head PW reviewer and PW admin with power to remove and add playerworlds. I fix EVERYTHING.

[magicbud3344]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Actually, just make me head PW reviewer and PW admin with power to remove and add playerworlds. I fix EVERYTHING.

Neonight:

Hell yeah!

TrueHeaT for Head PW! (Well.. Toran, though. )

[albus777]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


i agree.
It'd be okay if there were a couple, 2 or 3 PWs online and they were quality, like 2k1 or something, but instead we get like 10 playerworlds that are worse than classic (excluding my dear lovely providence)

i remember when i was PW reviewer, I accepted two great playerworlds, Providence and Murasamune. Stefan didn't want to upload either, saying providence didn't have enough stuff (which was rubbish) and something similar for Murasamune (which featured amazing NPCs and graphics)

this brings up another point: stefan has NO TASTE

G2K1 has a Graal counterstrike game and that terrible hunting park, which PROVES that he has no taste.

Oy vey, there's no solution

Eh, if you're saying Classic is rubbish, you need to look again. As for Providence, it WAS a great great pw, but since madmartigan and mido are gone, it seems to have gone down the drain. They lost all their players because there's nothing to do now. If they're going to close places to release a new system, they need to either
a. release it within a day
b. make some stuff to hold themover.

[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by magicbud3344


Neonight:

Hell yeah!

TrueHeaT for Head PW! (Well.. Toran, though. )

wow, is toran still doing it? jesus, he was doing it when i did it a LONG time ago

[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by albus777

Eh, if you're saying Classic is rubbish, you need to look again.

I'm saying it's different from back then. A long time ago, classic was what Graal looked like. Things have changed, classic is ugly and dated. The layout is bad, is doesn't flow well.

[magicbud3344]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


wow, is toran still doing it? jesus, he was doing it when i did it a LONG time ago

Neonight:

I'm pretty sure he is. ^_^ I wouldn't mind being PWR, simply because I could not be corrupt... Hahah... Because... I don't play Graal... yeah. I could download the client and check stuff, though.

[albus777]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


I'm saying it's different from back then. A long time ago, classic was what Graal looked like. Things have changed, classic is ugly and dated. The layout is bad, is doesn't flow well.

It does have somewhat of a bad layout, but a lot of that would probably change if Com becomes manager when Tyhm goes bye bye.

[Sir_Gareth]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Actually, just make me head PW reviewer and PW admin with power to remove and add playerworlds. I fix EVERYTHING.

You wouldnt be able to fix anything.
and we cant MAKE you it, you have to be invited to be part of the PWA team. And last time I checked, Nemesis is steal head of PWA.

[Birdbird_0]

how about he gets someone else to do the playerworld job rather than doing it himself, wait, wasn't nemesis doing it? What happend to their playerworld team. TrueHeaT, I don't think Unixmad does the playerworld stuff, the playerworld team does.

Thought thats why he hired Nemesis as assistant GM, before that, he was Playerworld admin.

[Birdbird_0]

Originally posted by Sir_Gareth


You wouldnt be able to fix anything.
and we cant MAKE you it, you have to be invited to be part of the PWA team. And last time I checked, Nemesis is steal head of PWA.

he has to be 18 and older too.

[magicbud3344]

Originally posted by Birdbird_0


he has to be 18 and older too.

Neonight:

Is Nemesis over 18? o_O He seems like he's 14 or so.

I've seen many people that are <18 and are much more mature.

[Flamingblaze]

Thank God. I'm so happy about that 18 and older rule, it keeps people with at least SOME intelligence in power.

[Duo]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


I'm saying it's different from back then. A long time ago, classic was what Graal looked like. Things have changed, classic is ugly and dated. The layout is bad, is doesn't flow well.

and classic is the firast thing people see when they come to graal

its like the hook, it should at least look good, and have an event or 2

[Loriel]

Originally posted by Flamingblaze
Thank God. I'm so happy about that 18 and older rule, it keeps people with at least SOME intelligence in power.

... and kind of insults everybody below 18.

[VampiricTutorNewHD]

So in other words, Flaming, you are saying that intelligence is unachievable if one is below 18? I could not disagree more. Except in your case, of course.

Jinx was below 18. I think he was one of the best PWRs ever.

I am 14. I try to strive for thinking in a logical, well-based mindset. Which is why I know for a fact that your statement is not only discriminatory, but entirely incorrect.

I've known several people over 18 who were immature and unintelligent to the point I couldn't stand speaking with them.

In other words, try basing your opinions on fact as opposed to common point of view. While many people below 18 are stupid, I believe an equal if not greater amount of people over 18 more stupid.

[Antago]

Originally posted by Flamingblaze
Thank God. I'm so happy about that 18 and older rule, it keeps people with at least SOME intelligence in power.

[Echos]

The solution is finding more reliable people than Nemesis.

[evilive]

Originally posted by Echos
The solution is finding more reliable people than Nemesis.

Yves:

CAN'T POST WHAT I WANT TO SAY BECAUSE I MAY GET BANNED, BUT FORUM PM ME AND I WILL TELL YOU.

[Tyhm]

Solution:

The proposed Personal Storage Space.

Create a system by which the LATs can easily link to assumed houses - a link to 0001 bounces off the server, which finds whichever house is in slot 0001, and fills in the proper level, x and y. Poof, instant house. Quests, whatever, run with it, but either nothing forbidden is allowed in (ie no prize) or nothing is remembered when you return to the main map (ie you lose the fullhearts and goldsword when you return to the real world)

If you want more, buy a Gold server license. Set it up so we can see how much it costs and run it off the Cyberjoueuer's machines. Then it's not a matter of PWs sucking, they paid for the right to suck. It's like on Starcraft, you join BGH MUCHO MONEY at your own risk.

[Flamingblaze]

Originally posted by Loriel

... and kind of insults everybody below 18.

I'm below 18. I feel in no way insulted. They want adults for the higher jobs. Makes perfect sense to me. And regarding Nemesis, he's 20 something, a great guy on and off Graal, true he could be more active but he does better than anyone else I've seen so I'll back him up. He's a badass and that's all there is to it.

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


wow, is toran still doing it? jesus, he was doing it when i did it a LONG time ago

those with experience get overlooked.

Anyway------!
FROM EXPERIENCE (LOLOL)
The deadline for fixing the playerworld when the inspectors point out what is wrong with it is 2 weeks. This is too much of a time limit, in my opinion. Lower this, and I say we'd actually make some progress, removal-wise.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT
Perhaps the reason it appears that stefan and unixmad "get nothing done" is because they are forced to deal with all the problems of the many bad playerworlds.

every day i see a new thread or something of that sort about how some bad staff got ftp and deleted everything on "playerworldia" or "graalica"

stefan and unixmad have to deal with millions of emails, pms, and stuff like that about this, and eventually they have to deal with it

solution: either get rid of all bad playerworld and set higher standards, or simply state that neither stefan or unixmad will provide service to playerworlds, and not letting bad staff get ahold of ftp and deleting the playerworld is the owners' responsibility

I'm really starting to wonder why everyone pins things on me...Saying I don't do this, or I do this, and I don't do it enough. Frankly everyone is on the outside looking in. If you actually saw what actually goes on then you'd know. Heck I've tried to please the world...Trying to clean up playerworlds...taking the bad out, keeping the good in...what happens? Stefan tells "The best way is to have all playerworlds stay up" He will not take them down. Corrupt staff = Change staff , then the cycle continues.

What then? You have people going out and REMAKING the playerworld. What then? THey go back up? cycle continues....Since I'm the next inline...everyone blames me, yet you all have just as much contact as I with Stefan and Unixmad...I have barely NOTHING....We have a special Staff forum...Who posted on there? ME, who responded? Alkaren...Not once did stefan or unixmad respond to the requests...I don't know if they are done or not...I don't know if it's going to be...Things take so much time for me...

I have no access to go out and remove a playerworld...Just because the position is there, doesn't mean it works how it should...Ask anyone who's ever been staff...I try my best to get things working, yet constantly for what I cannot control....for what I cannot do...I get blamed for not doing it when people don't realize, I cannot complete the tasks you want...Why? because they want to be involved, and finding them sometimes is damn near impossible, but I keep trying and trying.......But I take all this crap from every single player, and I work to try to fix things yet does it matter to you? Prolly not...Single thing thats done wrong or not done in what a day, it's my fault..."Hey get rid of Nem and get someone else cuz he can't get the job done" HELLO, it's not up to me, somethings I can just flat out do, somethings I can't

EG Npc server restarts and putting them up....Everyone would think since I'm the admin I could go ahead and do it...Nah I can't...I can't do it and I have to attempt to talk to them...Sometimes my forum messages aren't even read or are read and they forget...I'm not blaming anyone, what I'd like is for people who have the utmost concerns to come to me directly, instead of posting on the forums, getting a rowdy group of people, and frankly I can talk to people......

Whether or not anyone is manipulated, it's the fact that regardless, the number one goal is the success of the game...If you love it so much, then help it progress, not sit here with limited information and point fingers and say this is whats wrong....Hardly anyone knows what really has to happen, the progress that I have to take to actually complete a simple task....I am just saying that atleast I can get some type of credit for something atleast....but I know I may not even get that from anyone, yet I continue working, because sometimes I've had enough with this game, other times I love it to see it progress, for no other motives but to make it succeed, and those who have the same vision will have to be on staff in some aspect or helping in a manner to take this to the next level.......

I don't know what else I can say about it....Alkaren quitting is the utmost shock to me...I never saw it coming...Thought he'd be around for a long time...But hey I don't know......now everyone is asking me for jobs left and right...But I'm trying to get a lot of things organized and heck I can't even do that sometimes, so there are constantly things you'd think I can do...but 80% of the time...I'm just a relay messenger and thats how anyone in this position will be unless the faith and trust in someone is there.. Thus why you'd have to be of age to sign an agreement form in order to possible achieve that due to the HUGE security risk it'd be if an outsider (not inhouse staff) are able to get the rights to do the job correctly....

Lastly.....sorry if you hate me, or think I suck at my job but the fact of the matter is progress is being attempted whether you see it or not....All I need is the direct contact with Unix and Stefan more and possibly things can turn around........but you never know....thats all I can say

[Flamingblaze]

Screw all of you. Nemesis is tight as hell. Honestly I don't see why you guys hate him so much. He at least tries. And one MAJOR thing I'm giving to him, I have NEVER witnessed one corrupt act from him. Not a single one, I can't say that about any other staff, and that includes me.

[Flamingblaze]

::rants on:: and furthermore he's right, we don't get the powers we need to do our job, I WISH I could help fix autosync when it's down, I do the most with what I have (and before you say I AM in it for something think about this; I get NOTHING, no warpto, no rc, no modship of anything, I get access to approve/disapprove guilds that's it). Nemesis can't do everything cuz he doesn't have the bloody rights to do it for one and for two we can't expect ONE man to do it all.

[TrueHeaT]

Originally posted by Nemesis

I actually never mentioned you once, and this had nothing to do with you..

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by TrueHeaT


I actually never mentioned you once, and this had nothing to do with you..

I am just stating the facts.. You wanna fix things...I stated how it is......THis is what it's basically like...I mean honestly you want a better graal...I do too...I won't go against them illegally but I want something for the community to stop fighting about so we all have standardized rules, how things are treated, who controls what...everything needs to start and begin somewhere, or we can't progress...Atleast in my opinion....If you feel the same, then I guess we have a goal to achieve...whether differences or not, it's about the game not about who likes who , and who hates who..

[Flamingblaze]

Problem: The people in charge (with exceptions) think they're gods. Did you see some of Kamuii's posts in the NGR forum? "We have the authority not you" it's disgusting. The players are getting no representation whatsoever. I wish we could get rid of some things...AP...pk tag....Valikorlia....but it's not realistic cuz some people like it and there would never be enough support to totally demolish it so I live with that, but when things happen that EVERYBODY except the staff hates it's still not changed merely because the staff don't care about what the players think.

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by Flamingblaze
Screw all of you. Nemesis is tight as hell. Honestly I don't see why you guys hate him so much. He at least tries. And one MAJOR thing I'm giving to him, I have NEVER witnessed one corrupt act from him. Not a single one, I can't say that about any other staff, and that includes me.

I can say that Nemesis was one of the ones who tried to have me removed from FAQ chief (along with contego) on 2001.

I don't have the log anymore. I'm sure someone does. That wasn't exactly legitimate, and he had no power to log on and "fire" me like that.

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by Flamingblaze
Problem: The people in charge (with exceptions) think they're gods. Did you see some of Kamuii's posts in the NGR forum? "We have the authority not you" it's disgusting. The players are getting no representation whatsoever. I wish we could get rid of some things...AP...pk tag....Valikorlia....but it's not realistic cuz some people like it and there would never be enough support to totally demolish it so I live with that, but when things happen that EVERYBODY except the staff hates it's still not changed merely because the staff don't care about what the players think.

someone find an example of me pulling rank. i'm up for a good search.

[Nemesis]

Originally posted by Torankusu
I can say that Nemesis was one of the ones who tried to have me removed from FAQ chief (along with contego) on 2001.

I don't have the log anymore. I'm sure someone does. That wasn't exactly legitimate, and he had no power to log on and "fire" me like that.

That was true...but in the end you werent........Stuff happened...then we had our disputes, then again I put that all behind me...I have no problems with you, and I do indeed value your position as a reviewer/inspector...You do have my graal aim correct?

[Flamingblaze]

Originally posted by Torankusu
I can say that Nemesis was one of the ones who tried to have me removed from FAQ chief (along with contego) on 2001.

I don't have the log anymore. I'm sure someone does. That wasn't exactly legitimate, and he had no power to log on and "fire" me like that.

>< better than Loriel, he offered alkaren an invisibility npc to stalk me and find reasons to ban me. Luckily Alk refused to comply. (this was a WHILE back)

[Torankusu]

Originally posted by Nemesis


That was true...but in the end you werent........Stuff happened...then we had our disputes, then again I put that all behind me...I have no problems with you, and I do indeed value your position as a reviewer/inspector...You do have my graal aim correct?

I have it, I never bother to use it though.