Rule help

[xAndrewx]

I have a question and since this thread below is closed I decided to make a new thread for peoples opinions.
http://forums.graalonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=49824

Not to mention any names, but recently I was involved with a server where one staff member deleted some contents of a server. I read the first page of the thread above and the last one, I didn't read the other pages because something this important should be on the front page.

Well anyways, what is the penalty of someone deleting parts of a server? I've known two people, one who got away with it and one who didn't.

I for one believe an investigation is needed. On one case where the person didn't get convicted there wasn't a full investigation; instead a higher global said it was legal for deleting parts of a server.

On the other case, there was an investigation but one what was done very poor; they asked staff members what happened even though none were online at the time and with that they decided to globally ban the individual without confronting him. When the individual did come forward and ask what happened he got two different replies from two global staff members.

So, what I'm asking is what do the PWA (?) or whoever do when someone deletes a server? And how come several people get away with deleting a server and so many do not?

Opinions please.

Note: I would've sent a PM but I speak for many when I say no-one knows exactly what happens.

[Gambet]

No one gets away with deleting a server o_O.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Gambet

No one gets away with deleting a server o_O.

He isn't refering to the deletion of a whole server...note:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

Not to mention any names, but recently I was involved with a server where one staff member deleted some contents of a server.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

He isn't refering to the deletion of a whole server...note:

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

So, what I'm asking is what do the PWA (?) or whoever do when someone deletes a server? And how come several people get away with deleting a server and so many do not?

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Delete a server = Global Bannable Offense
Why do some get away with it? = They don't
Delete content on server = Depends on whose it is and why they removed it
Why some can do it and others can't = Depends on the reasoning and the creator of the content

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by Gambet

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Delete a server = Global Bannable Offense
Why do some get away with it? = They don't
Delete content on server = Depends on whose it is and why they removed it
Why some can do it and others can't = Depends on the reasoning and the creator of the content

I want a clear answer on this question from the PWA/Stefan (in public), as I have heard different.

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

I want a clear answer on this question from the PWA/Stefan (in public), as I have heard different.

You've already spoken to Stefan privately, so you should know this answer.

[WanDaMan]

Originally Posted by Gambet

Delete content on server = Depends on whose it is and why they removed it
Why some can do it and others can't = Depends on the reasoning and the creator of the content

Well, you recently deleted contents of a server and you got away with it. However, when I deleted some content on a server what were illegal I got globally banned.

Well, I didn't get asked why I'd done it, instead I got globally banned. Funny, I guess you just have to know people in high places

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by WanDaMan

Well, you recently deleted contents of a server and you got away with it. However, when I deleted some content on a server what were illegal I got globally banned.

Well, I didn't get asked why I'd done it, instead I got globally banned. Funny, I guess you just have to know people in high places

Really? What content did I remove that is not on NP right now? I gave jady back ups to the GWI and she uploaded it. That's all I removed besides my own personal npc's which no one used besides myself.

[Curt1zzle]

Originally Posted by WanDaMan

Well, you recently deleted contents of a server and you got away with it. However, when I deleted some content on a server what were illegal I got globally banned.

Well, I didn't get asked why I'd done it, instead I got globally banned. Funny, I guess you just have to know people in high places

lol.

Sorry about that, ol' buddy.

[Chicken_l33t]

Originally Posted by Gambet

No one gets away with deleting a server o_O.

Lol, you're a bit optimistic.
I beg to differ.

[maximus_asinus]

If people backed up everything every couple of days, things like this would be a minor problem.

[Darlene159]

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

If people backed up everything every couple of days, things like this would be a minor problem.

That isn't the point...

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

If people backed up everything every couple of days, things like this would be a minor problem.

..

[Darlene159]

lol, Gambet
your replies simply means that staff should say things to cover themselves, in my opinion

Spark didn't explian anything, his reply left the rule wide open, and left big loopholes.

Originally Posted by Gambet

No, if the reason is bad, then things can be done accordingly. If the reason is somewhat valid, then backups could be supplied (if needed) and then life moves on.

Somewhat valid? What the heck is this? A loophole? Skirting the rules? If someone has no completely valid reason to remove several things, and then quit, just to leave the pw to put backups up of working content, it should be against the rules

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by Darlene159

lol, Gambet
your replies simply means that you say things to cover yourself

Spark didn't explian anything, his reply left the rule wide open, and left big loopholes.

His reply was quite clear. It requires a case, everything he said would have to be examined, and then a decision be made.

Originally Posted by Darlene159

Somewhat valid? What the heck is this? A loophole? Skirting the rules? If someone has no completely valid reason to remove several things, and then quit, just to leave the pw to put backups up of working content, it should be against the rules

A loophole? Uh no. THERE ARE valid reasoning for removing content. Whether YOU plan on believe the person or not is up to YOU (on a personal level, I mean). If the globals do not see things the same way you do, then that's just how things are. Somehow you have to take everything so negatively.