"The Slums" on Graal 2001

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #1 02-19-2002, 11:04 AM

I am just interested as to why the Slums were taken (I will not say steal because it may have been with permission) from Providence and put onto Graal 2001. Sure, they may have been modified a bit, but not a lot... plus it's hardly original

Torankusu · #2 02-19-2002, 11:05 AM

they offered the guy that made them a staff position on 2001. Or so I heard.

psihunter · #3 02-19-2002, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_
I am just interested as to why the Slums were taken (I will not say steal because it may have been with permission) from Providence and put onto Graal 2001. Sure, they may have been modified a bit, but not a lot... plus it's hardly original

I dunno I don't like it either!

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #4 02-19-2002, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
they offered the guy that made them a staff position on 2001. Or so I heard.

Yup, the guy told me himself. I won't name names but he is a Police on that server and he told me himself that he is blackmailing the staff for a LAT position so they can use the slums on Graal 2001. I would post the log, but I forget his account name, I just know his nick he uses

freddyfox · #5 02-19-2002, 11:18 AM

Birdbird said he made all the levels and borrowed the little text thingy with Tyne's permission, but I haven't heard anything official from Tyne yet.

Torankusu · #6 02-19-2002, 11:19 AM

madmartigan or something, right?

I mean, if the guy makes levels for the server, he should get a Level Maker tag, but he should only get to keep it if he keeps making levels, etc.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #7 02-19-2002, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
madmartigan or something, right?

I mean, if the guy makes levels for the server, he should get a Level Maker tag, but he should only get to keep it if he keeps making levels, etc.

*gasp*
secret's out!

Correction · #8 02-19-2002, 11:23 AM

zoom zoom varoom
my hats . . . on those ebil berd's heds. . .they problly got lice

ArchOwl · #9 02-19-2002, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by Correction
zoom zoom varoom
my hats . . . on those ebil berd's heds. . .they problly got lice

My head is head26.gif.
And please, stop complaining about it. If the guy gets what he wants, its all good.

Birdbird_0 · #10 02-19-2002, 11:35 AM

The slums style of building was taken from me from Vance aka Glenn.

And they were deleated from Providence after an incisdent with ssjksdjfoiadsj or what ever, I got permision from Kamuii to use the text thing as well as tyhme, but I'm rmoeving it anyway.
MarMagain is submitting the old telmont levels anyway with the old sewers and such.

So I cant stel a style that I orginaly created

ArchOwl · #11 02-19-2002, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
The slums style of building was taken from me from Vance aka Glenn.

And they were deleated from Providence after an incisdent with ssjksdjfoiadsj or what ever, I got permision from Kamuii to use the text thing as well as tyhme, but I'm rmoeving it anyway.
MarMagain is submitting the old telmont levels anyway with the old sewers and such.

So I cant stel a style that I orginaly created

Will these levels be here, but without the text stuff? I usually ignore the text stuff anyway...

freddyfox · #12 02-19-2002, 11:38 AM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
with the old sewers and such.

Add a few ratmen in there, will ya?

Bird2prey · #13 02-19-2002, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by ArchOwl

Will these levels be here, but without the text stuff? I usually ignore the text stuff anyway...

The text is nice, but hardly neccicary. It gets annoying after a while. Birdbird, finish the houses and don't bother with the location marker text.

ZanderX · #14 02-19-2002, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
The slums style of building was taken from me from Vance aka Glenn.

And they were deleated from Providence after an incisdent with ssjksdjfoiadsj or what ever, I got permision from Kamuii to use the text thing as well as tyhme, but I'm rmoeving it anyway.
MarMagain is submitting the old telmont levels anyway with the old sewers and such.

So I cant stel a style that I orginaly created

Uh, Telmont levels are still property of Providence, man.

Most of the Telmont levels, last I checked, were outside ones, which means they're still online.

Which means if he tries to submit them to you, I will not be happy. Neither will Providence.

psihunter · #15 02-19-2002, 11:43 AM

Providence should stay on providence
I suggest bird you change the slum stype to like a nature inside woodie style and makes the houses liek tree houses

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #16 02-19-2002, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
The slums style of building was taken from me from Vance aka Glenn.

And they were deleated from Providence after an incisdent with ssjksdjfoiadsj or what ever, I got permision from Kamuii to use the text thing as well as tyhme, but I'm rmoeving it anyway.
MarMagain is submitting the old telmont levels anyway with the old sewers and such.

So I cant stel a style that I orginaly created

I never said you stole them, just borrowed them or something. But anyways, the levels look ugly compared to the rest of Graal 2001. The entire style of buildings and the way the tiles are used.. just doesn't seem to fit into the entire Graal 2001 atmosphere. This doesn't mean the levles suck but they don't belong there

ArchOwl · #17 02-19-2002, 11:44 AM

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Originally posted by psihunter
Providence should stay on providence
I suggest bird you change the slum stype to like a nature inside woodie style and makes the houses liek tree houses

I like it the way it is, I dont want any changes

ArchOwl · #18 02-19-2002, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

I never said you stole them, just borrowed them or something. But anyways, the levels look ugly compared to the rest of Graal 2001. The entire style of buildings and the way the tiles are used.. just doesn't seem to fit into the entire Graal 2001 atmosphere. This doesn't mean the levles suck but they don't belong there

They look perfectly like g2k1. There is no set style for g2k1, because each LAT has his own style.

Providence_Admin3 · #19 02-19-2002, 01:31 PM

I really like the slums, and I really like the text marker thing.

Gives it a final fantasy-ish look.

Torankusu · #20 02-19-2002, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by freddyfox

Add a few ratmen in there, will ya?

later. ;]

Bird2prey · #21 02-19-2002, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by ArchOwl

They look perfectly like g2k1. There is no set style for g2k1, because each LAT has his own style.

Graal2001 has become a theme park.

I'd still be playing Providence, but it's busted.

Birdbird_0 · #22 02-19-2002, 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by ZanderX

Uh, Telmont levels are still property of Providence, man.

Most of the Telmont levels, last I checked, were outside ones, which means they're still online.

Which means if he tries to submit them to you, I will not be happy. Neither will Providence.

The original style of the slums Glenn stole from me.
And I use none of the outside slum levels, and I've changed the style of the outside a bit even more so it is not exsaclty like providence, there are two inside levels from providence from the slums, and I made those.
Madmargitan, the one who made the slums on providence, just gave me the sewer levels for 2k1, and its uploaded and fixed up a bit, so its not like providences levels, it just uses the same slum sewer style

Lyndzey · #23 02-19-2002, 07:49 PM

A number of people "steal" your style. There's nothing wrong with trying to make levels like someone else, I do it all the time. There is something wrong with taking a script and then telling everyone that the owner allowed you to do so. How come I go to the Bird Mafia place and see the script, then I tell Kamuii about it and he's like "Which levels?". That's not getting permission if you do it after you take levels. It does not matter if that madmargitn guy made those levels, because he sent them to Providence, which came Providence's property. As far as I know, you have not spoken with Kamuii about it, or me, don't know about Crono though. I don't believe you helped out Providence at the time those levels were made. Those levels are still up, but many links are not working on Providence right now.

Marle · #24 02-19-2002, 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by Providence_Admin3
I really like the slums, and I really like the text marker thing.

Gives it a final fantasy-ish look.

I came up with that idea and told Tyne to put it up ;D

Birdbird_0 · #25 02-19-2002, 08:16 PM

So I can't use my own stupid style of levels I created?

cds96 · #26 02-19-2002, 08:22 PM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
So I can't use my own stupid style of levels I created?

It would appear so, but i dont like the big blotchy light effects there, but i do like the levels.

Birdbird_0 · #27 02-19-2002, 08:28 PM

So a problem doesn't arise, I'll make the slums of 2k1 a pretty fluffy green and pink forest town.
-_- all will be happy.

cds96 · #28 02-19-2002, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by Birdbird_0
So a problem doesn't arise, I'll make the slums of 2k1 a pretty fluffy green and pink forest town.
-_- all will be happy.

will it have bunnies?

Spanko · #29 02-19-2002, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
So a problem doesn't arise, I'll make the slums of 2k1 a pretty fluffy green and pink forest town.
-_- all will be happy.

I won't be happy unless it's got cute squirrels which we can catch and eat alive, bwuhahahahha!! *coughs*

Shorty2Dope · #30 02-19-2002, 10:21 PM

Whats the big deal? The slums rock.

When you submit or put anything into graal, it become property of graal, right? It doesn't matter if you made the super duper awsome mega graal script. If it's in the graal folder on graal's server, then graal can use it.

cloudstrifevii · #31 02-19-2002, 11:09 PM

Slums were in FF7 heh.

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #32 02-20-2002, 12:03 AM

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Originally posted by Shorty2Dope
Whats the big deal? The slums rock.

When you submit or put anything into graal, it become property of graal, right? It doesn't matter if you made the super duper awsome mega graal script. If it's in the graal folder on graal's server, then graal can use it.

If that was the deal, then any server could steal anyone from anything. That means free servers could steal p2p scripts or old Delteria (the one Ice Pick owned) could steak any gfx or levels they wanted. That is not the case.

Speaking of this forest, will the forest have a little stream and lillypads for frogs... and berry bushes where we can goi pick the berries and eat them?

Shorty2Dope · #33 02-20-2002, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by _0AfTeRsHoCk0_

If that was the deal, then any server could steal anyone from anything. That means free servers could steal p2p scripts or old Delteria (the one Ice Pick owned) could steak any gfx or levels they wanted. That is not the case.

Speaking of this forest, will the forest have a little stream and lillypads for frogs... and berry bushes where we can goi pick the berries and eat them?

Yea true.. but they can be used if they wanted to be. Isn't it in the rules or something?

No one would want to steal ice picks scripts and levels.. heh.

ArchOwl · #34 02-20-2002, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Birdbird_0
So a problem doesn't arise, I'll make the slums of 2k1 a pretty fluffy green and pink forest town.
-_- all will be happy.

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Spanko · #35 02-20-2002, 01:17 AM

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Originally posted by cloudstrifevii
Slums were in FF7 heh.

Slums are in most real towns heh.

Lyndzey · #36 02-20-2002, 05:15 AM

YOU DID NOT MAKE THOSE LEVELS. Stealing "style" means trying to make your level like someone else. Stealing levels is a whole different story.

WHIPENIE4 · #37 02-20-2002, 06:06 AM

Quote:

The slums style of building was taken from me from Vance aka Glenn.

And they were deleated from Providence after an incisdent with ssjksdjfoiadsj or what ever, I got permision from Kamuii to use the text thing as well as tyhme, but I'm rmoeving it anyway.
MarMagain is submitting the old telmont levels anyway with the old sewers and such.

So I cant stel a style that I orginaly created

Can someone post a ss of this slum style of level building? or where are some levels i can see on g2k1??

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #38 02-20-2002, 06:36 AM

Here is a picture of the "Telmont Slums" on Providence

_0AfTeRsHoCk0_ · #39 02-20-2002, 06:39 AM

Here are "The Slums" on Graal 2001

ArchOwl · #40 02-20-2002, 07:03 AM

aftershok the two screenshots you posted dont really look alike
the only thing i see similar is the style

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