Cynical : Review

Jinx · #1 06-28-2002, 08:26 AM

Cynical:Review

Sorry for the delay in reviewing. I was busier this last week than I originally expected, plus I had to look over Cynical a few times(I liked it).

The start level has a nice introduction. After that you get warped to a starting house, which introduces you to some controls and stuff.

Something I like: You can press 'W' to JUMP. Yes, JUMP. It's fun =D
(IT's way different than the Babylon Jump system)

If you say '/help', you will be able to read the controls for the system NPC. You can set your HP bar to 5 different gifs, by simply saying 'sethpbar <#>', or you can turn HPbars off and just have normal hearts. There's a day/night system, but you can easily turn it off if it lags you too much by saying "day night off".

After you exit the building, it suggests to you that you go to Robs house, and that it's to the north of where you are. Once in rob's house, rob brings you to town. He follows you around then, telling you certain places to go, introduces you to some buildings in the town, then goes back to his house and lets you run around.
(Too bad the 'followplayer' command doesn't work online.... that might make things a little tough =/ )

The levels are nothing overly amazing, but they aren't horrible ethier. The NPCs are pretty good. There are quests, which are pretty good.

Creativity - 9 There are a lot of creative things here. I could only find one job, but it was different than just pressing D over and over again. I like all the different HP Bars, and the system NPC.

Levels - 5.5 I think the levels could use some work. I've seen a lot worse though, and I think these levels would just cut it to go online with.

NPCs - 7.5 The NPCs are nice. The system NPC has some nice scripting, and the opening intro is scripted nicely. However, the NAT team will have to find some way to make the NPC at the beggining follow you without the 'followplayer' command(Unless I've missed something and it works online now).

Quests - 3 The quests are nothing special at all. First you have to hack through a few baddies, then one predefined-NPC with 10-20 hearts and a level 2 sword coming at you while Arrows shoot at you. Once you beat it, you go on to another room with nearly the exact same thing. This is the only quest I really looked at or did, I couldn't find many others.

Storyline - 6.5 Aside from the opening intro/movie, I couldn't find a whole ton more that followed it.

Overall - 31.5 out of 50

The server has some great creativity and ideas, but a few things need work, I think it has the potential to pass =) Keep working on it, It's really a cool server.
(And sorry about the late review)

Cynical Status: Fail.

-Jinx

Torankusu · #2 06-28-2002, 08:33 AM

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Originally posted by Jinx

However, the NAT team will have to find some way to make the NPC at the beggining follow you without the 'followplayer' command(Unless I've missed something and it works online now).

last time I tried, it didn't.

Jinx · #3 06-28-2002, 08:36 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
last time I tried, it didn't.

I haven't had an RC/FTP Access for awhile, and I dont have one now, and I probibly wont have one for awhile. (I'm fine with that)

-Jinx

warp2ukew · #4 06-28-2002, 08:37 AM

I though it would do better than aq 31.5

Lao_Su2 · #5 06-28-2002, 08:39 AM

Thanks for the review Jinx no they know what to work on

Jinx · #6 06-28-2002, 08:39 AM

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Originally posted by warp2ukew
I though it would do better than aq 31.5

37 points is passing.

-Jinx

johndenver04 · #7 06-28-2002, 08:40 AM

There are 10 hearts, 5 jobs. There is only one quest that has the predifined NPCs. All the rest have a boss that i created. And there are other endings to quest like one where you have to hit all the switches while another guy trys to shut them off. Plus i redid most of the outside levels after i submitted.

Jinx · #8 06-28-2002, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by johndenver04
There are 10 hearts, 5 jobs. There is only one quest that has the predifined NPCs. All the rest have a boss that i created. And there are other endings to quest like one where you have to hit all the switches while another guy trys to shut them off. Plus i redid most of the outside levels after i submitted.

PM me the level names, I'll gladly change my review if I find I've missed something.

-Jinx

Mykel · #9 06-28-2002, 08:46 AM

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Originally posted by Jinx

PM me the level names, I'll gladly change my review if I find I've missed something.

-Jinx

jinxy good...

johndenver04 · #10 06-28-2002, 08:48 AM

i'm wippin up a list of them all it'll be about 5 mins

Tohz · #11 06-28-2002, 08:54 AM

I'm so sad for those servers who work hard and get failed :-/

Jinx · #12 06-28-2002, 08:56 AM

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Originally posted by Tohz
I'm so sad for those servers who work hard and get failed :-/

But many of those servers that work hard and get failed are willing to listen to suggestions, and keep working to re-submit, and eventually pass.

-Jinx

johndenver04 · #13 06-28-2002, 08:58 AM

Here it is

Quests
booj_mshroom.graal - first talk to the guy. Then go to the hospital and talk to the healer. Then go to cynical_j-11.graal and go behind the tree.
planetlevel1.graal - This is just one huge quest in the town of torta.
booj_b4temple.graal - you have to have lvl2 sword and lvl3 glove to do the quest. talk to the guy. Then go in the castle at cynical_e-3.graal
booj_mounthouse.graal - talk to Mr. Bearington then go to booj_mthrone.graal talk to the king then go to cynicalquest_2cave.graal get the guys and return them to the king
cynical_d-7.graal - go in the mountain for the quest
booj_vase.graal - Vase quest
booj_snowq1.graal - must have 10 hearts to enter.
booj_church.graal - Have 0 AP go to hell and fight Satan have 100 AP and get a healer.
cynical_train-news.nw - This is the training Center that you don't have its a small course with a heart at the end.

Jobs
cynical_mining.graal - Mining
cynical_d-3.graal - Tomato picking
cynical_e-2.graal - Rock Picking
cynical_f-1.graal - Ulm Bush picking
cynical_f-2.graal - Fishing store, lumberjacking store both here

This is all i could find at the moment

johndenver04 · #14 06-28-2002, 09:00 AM

Plus i did more to the outside levels

Jinx · #15 06-28-2002, 09:01 AM

I'll take a look at 'em...

-Jinx

Torankusu · #16 06-28-2002, 09:04 AM

for future reference and to prevent mixups like this,
please include "important levels (quest beginnings, details, jobs, and anything else you want us to see)" in a "readme.txt" file or an "info.txt" file.

It would help a bit more.

Beachbum · #17 06-28-2002, 09:05 AM

Hey jinx, does a server HAVE to have a storyline?

johndenver04 · #18 06-28-2002, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
for future reference and to prevent mixups like this,
please include "important levels (quest beginnings, details, jobs, and anything else you want us to see)" in a "readme.txt" file or an "info.txt" file.

It would help a bit more.

Alrighty

Torankusu · #19 06-28-2002, 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by Beachbum
Hey jinx, does a server HAVE to have a storyline?

it doesn't have to have a storyline just as much as it doesn't have to get online.

If you want stupid servers to just PK on, go to Unholy Nation.

Tohz · #20 06-28-2002, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
it doesn't have to have a storyline just as much as it doesn't have to get online.

If you want stupid servers to just PK on, go to Unholy Nation.

Storyline w/o roleplaying ? What's the point... ?

Tohz · #21 06-28-2002, 09:15 AM

Well, I agree that UN is like "Rush on Hearts quest and then go PK -_-"

Torankusu · #22 06-28-2002, 09:23 AM

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Originally posted by Tohz

Storyline w/o roleplaying ? What's the point... ?

In graal, as far as I am concerned, there are two types of roleplaying.

Playing as the role of the character,

And Massively playing as the role of YOUR CREATED Character,not one a movie intro, and stuff creates for you.

Tohz · #23 06-28-2002, 09:26 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
In graal, as far as I am concerned, there are two types of roleplaying.

Playing as the role of the character,

And Massively playing as the role of YOUR CREATED Character,not one a movie intro, and stuff creates for you.

Story who fit with Quests and Quests who come along with the Story?

mikepg · #24 06-28-2002, 09:28 AM

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If you say '/help', you will be able to read the controls for the system NPC. You can set your HP bar to 5 different gifs, by simply saying 'sethpbar <#>', or you can turn HPbars off and just have normal hearts. There's a day/night system, but you can easily turn it off if it lags you too much by saying "day night off".

I'm not trying to say anything negative...but you listed these under "creativity"

This paragraph accurately describes Andor's system (day/night was remove, but had the exact same phrase used for it). Also... /help displays our commands, and "setstats #" changes our stats.

I'm NOT saying they copied Andor, at all. I just wanted to say, reading that "triggeractioned" my brain to say it looks familiar, lol. That's all. Other than that, everything sounds pretty kewl.

Torankusu · #25 06-28-2002, 09:29 AM

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Originally posted by Tohz

Story who fit with Quests and Quests who come along with the Story?

no no no.

Like, a "Character" on Valikorlia,
and a Character automatically created by the storyline involving him (the Player's graal-character) in doing whatever.

Torankusu · #26 06-28-2002, 09:31 AM

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Originally posted by mikepg

I'm not trying to say anything negative...but you listed these under "creativity"

This paragraph accurately describes Andor's system (day/night was remove, but had the exact same phrase used for it). Also... /help displays our commands, and "setstats #" changes our stats.

I'm NOT saying they copied Andor, at all. I just wanted to say, reading that "triggeractioned" my brain to say it looks familiar, lol. That's all. Other than that, everything sounds pretty kewl.

I apologize ahead of time for telling you to SHUT THE **** UP.

Anyways. Do you want then to use /HELPMEPLZ and /SETMYBAR THING ?

Point being, they are commonly used things, and they don't necessarily mean a server copied off of another for having it.

Tohz · #27 06-28-2002, 09:33 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
no no no.

Like, a "Character" on Valikorlia,
and a Character automatically created by the storyline involving him (the Player's graal-character) in doing whatever.

Well, I'm not sure to understand but its okay ;p

johndenver04 · #28 06-28-2002, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by mikepg

I'm not trying to say anything negative...but you listed these under "creativity"

This paragraph accurately describes Andor's system (day/night was remove, but had the exact same phrase used for it). Also... /help displays our commands, and "setstats #" changes our stats.

I'm NOT saying they copied Andor, at all. I just wanted to say, reading that "triggeractioned" my brain to say it looks familiar, lol. That's all. Other than that, everything sounds pretty kewl.

Theres a lot of servers that did the exact same thign its just a good way to do it.

Torankusu · #29 06-28-2002, 09:36 AM

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Originally posted by Tohz

Well, I'm not sure to understand but its okay ;p

Uhm.

Well.
Free-form-roleplaying,
and Character-(planned out, automated, whatever)-form-roleplaying.

Better?

Tohz · #30 06-28-2002, 09:37 AM

Oh Okay!! ^_^
you know that English isnt my first language

brock128 · #31 06-28-2002, 09:42 AM

Knowing the rest, how did it do, Jinx? I need a new Review.

Torankusu · #32 06-28-2002, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by Tohz
Oh Okay!! ^_^
you know that English isnt my first language

Explaining things that I make up (sort of) isn't my best thing either.

mikepg · #33 06-28-2002, 09:47 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
I apologize ahead of time for telling you to SHUT THE **** UP.

Anyways. Do you want then to use /HELPMEPLZ and /SETMYBAR THING ?

Point being, they are commonly used things, and they don't necessarily mean a server copied off of another for having it.

Glad you apologized, because if you would have actually read my post like a person that has an IQ above their age, you would have noticed the fact these things were considered "Creative" according to Jinx.

So, once again, you jumped the gun, and took another person (me) in the wrong context.

So, apology accepted, I mean hey, we can't all be intelegent.

Mykel · #34 06-28-2002, 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by mikepg

So, apology accepted, I mean hey, we can't all be intelegent.

Yea i mean we cant all spell intellegent u smartass

albus777 · #35 06-28-2002, 09:50 AM

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Originally posted by Mykel

Yea i mean we cant all spell intellegent u smartass

Your sig is, um, wierd.

mikepg · #36 06-28-2002, 09:51 AM

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Originally posted by Mykel

Yea i mean we cant all spell intellegent u smartass

yeah, or add the H to the end of Yea, capitolize our Is, use apostrophes, or type out the word "you" either.

Torankusu · #37 06-28-2002, 09:52 AM

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Originally posted by mikepg

Glad you apologized, because if you would have actually read my post like a person that has an IQ above their age, you would have noticed the fact these things were considered "Creative" according to Jinx.

So, once again, you jumped the gun, and took another person (me) in the wrong context.

So, apology accepted, I mean hey, we can't all be intelegent.

Uh, no, I did not jump the gun. I was pointing out how most "ANDORIANS" seem to think they have the title to things.

The commands and features are COMMONLY USED, and DO NOT BELONG TO ONE PLAYERWORLD.

The next point being, if Jinx considers it creative, it is creative.

You're both wrong. It's "intelligent."

Mykel · #38 06-28-2002, 09:53 AM

heh...interesting...

mikepg · #39 06-28-2002, 09:57 AM

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Originally posted by Torankusu
Uh, no, I did not jump the gun. I was pointing out how most "ANDORIANS" seem to think they have the title to things.

The commands and features are COMMONLY USED, and DO NOT BELONG TO ONE PLAYERWORLD.

The next point being, if Jinx considers it creative, it is creative.

You're both wrong. It's "intelligent."

Fine, I can keep going with this...First sentence at the end of my post:
"I'm NOT saying they copied Andor, at all. "

I think, you seem to think you have the title to control other people's opinions.

"The next point being, if Jinx considers it creative, it is creative. " I can smell your breath from here...you've been kissing ass.

Torankusu · #40 06-28-2002, 09:59 AM

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Originally posted by mikepg

"The next point being, if Jinx considers it creative, it is creative. " I can smell your breath from here...you've been kissing ass.

Review it, and then you will have the call of creativity.

Until then. Don't imply that I am kissing my job-equal's ass.