onRemotePlayerChats(obj, str) for NPC's

[xXziroXx]

PHP Code:

onRemotePlayerChats(obj, str) - another player is saying something: player object, text 


It would be awesome if it would trigger when an NPC's chat is changed as well, or at the very least, get an onRemoteNPCChats(obj, str).

[Gambet]

Originally Posted by xXziroXx

well, or at the very least, get an onRemoteNPCChats(obj, str).

This would make much more sense I would think, but I'm not sure exactly how it would work since simply reading when the npc's chat changes wouldn't always work if the NPC, for example, repeats itself (assuming that's how the function would be called, since the client can easily tell when a player chats due to the chat bar but it's not so simple for npcs).

[Crow]

I would like to have a way to change the own player.chat locally. Yea, I know, sounds awkward. Let me explain. Let's say the player enters "Hi there" into the chat bar and hits enter. Let's also assume that some dork added "there" to the clientside swear filter. Last, but not least, the player has this swear filter enabled (it's optional ), but most of the other players don't. My goal: filter the word locally for the player, and show it to those who have the filter disabled.
Way too complicated explanation for such an easy thing. Well, you hopefully know what I mean anyway.

[Pelikano]

Originally Posted by Crow

I would like to have a way to change the own player.chat locally. Yea, I know, sounds awkward. Let me explain. Let's say the player enters "Hi there" into the chat bar and hits enter. Let's also assume that some dork added "there" to the clientside swear filter. Last, but not least, the player has this swear filter enabled (it's optional ), but most of the other players don't. My goal: filter the word locally for the player, and show it to those who have the filter disabled.
Way too complicated explanation for such an easy thing. Well, you hopefully know what I mean anyway.

like in a game not allowed to be discussed on the forums?

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by Crow

I would like to have a way to change the own player.chat locally. Yea, I know, sounds awkward. Let me explain. Let's say the player enters "Hi there" into the chat bar and hits enter. Let's also assume that some dork added "there" to the clientside swear filter. Last, but not least, the player has this swear filter enabled (it's optional ), but most of the other players don't. My goal: filter the word locally for the player, and show it to those who have the filter disabled.
Way too complicated explanation for such an easy thing. Well, you hopefully know what I mean anyway.

Then just use something like this clientside:

PHP Code:

function onRemotePlayerChats(temp.obj, temp.chat)
{
  temp.obj.chat = _FILTERFUNCTON(temp.chat);
} 


Other players won't see the change because it is clientside.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Crow

I would like to have a way to change the own player.chat locally. Yea, I know, sounds awkward. Let me explain. Let's say the player enters "Hi there" into the chat bar and hits enter. Let's also assume that some dork added "there" to the clientside swear filter. Last, but not least, the player has this swear filter enabled (it's optional ), but most of the other players don't. My goal: filter the word locally for the player, and show it to those who have the filter disabled.
Way too complicated explanation for such an easy thing. Well, you hopefully know what I mean anyway.

Well you could just use onRemotePlayerChat, which is clientside; All you have to do is have this function for those who want swear filters, and have it filter the remote player's chat. As it's clientside, it will only apply to the player who is running the swear filter, and not for all the players it is actually censoring.

[Crow]

I guess I forgot to tell you guys that onRemotePlayerChats() doesn't get triggered when you yourself chat.

Edit: Also, it seems you misunderstood me, Dusty. I want to achieve a swear filter which each player can toggle for themselves, so they either see every swear word, or they don't. There's not supposed to be a mix between visible swear words and censored ones.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Crow

I guess I forgot to tell you guys that onRemotePlayerChats() doesn't get triggered when you yourself chat.

So your own chat doesn't get filtered? Kind of see it as a benefit... I mean, if I want others to be censored, that's good. I mean, what difference does it make if my own chat is filtered? That just means while I may not want to hear curse words, those who don't care can hear them, even from me.

However, I wouldn't be opposed to a sort of player.localchat var or something.

edit: That's exactly what onRemotePlayerChats() will achieve. I can toggle on swear filter and then use onRemotePlayerchats() to censor the chat of all the other players on my screen without actually changing what they say. They get to swear and I get to censor it for myself.

[Crow]

Well, I think it's a bit awkward if your own chat doesn't get filtered.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Crow

Well, I think it's a bit awkward if your own chat doesn't get filtered.

Well if they don't want to see cursing then maybe they shouldn't curse? Or just go ahead and censor their chat anyways with onPlayerChats to show everyone else they have their chat censored.

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by Crow

Well, I think it's a bit awkward if your own chat doesn't get filtered.

It would be filtered for other people who have the swear filter, though. Plus, it would stop people trying to evade the swear filter so much by modifying the word beyond recognition, because they wouldn't even be aware what was filtered and what wasn't.

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by Skyld

It would be filtered for other people who have the swear filter, though. Plus, it would stop people trying to evade the swear filter so much by modifying the word beyond recognition, because they wouldn't even be aware what was filtered and what wasn't.

And it's relatively easy to filter out the commonly used filter evasion tactics. Most people simply just do not do it.

Personally speaking I think a word filter is useless. It would be much more efficient and logical to have an option to ignore/unignore an individual player's chat in-game, which would simply prevent the ignored player's chat from being displayed to the ignoring player at all.

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Cloven

And it's relatively easy to filter out the commonly used filter evasion tactics. Most people simply just do not do it.

Personally speaking I think a word filter is useless. It would be much more efficient and logical to have an option to ignore/unignore an individual player's chat in-game, which would simply prevent the ignored player's chat from being displayed to the ignoring player at all.

If such a private filter is implemented most people would not need to try to evade it as it's so low-key that it'd be nearly impossible to tell who has their chat filtered and who doesn't. It's so non-invasive that most would have no need to try to avoid it.

[Cloven]

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva

If such a private filter is implemented most people would not need to try to evade it as it's so low-key that it'd be nearly impossible to tell who has their chat filtered and who doesn't. It's so non-invasive that most would have no need to try to avoid it.

I don't disagree, I just don't see the need to implement a filter where a simple ignore option should otherwise be available. If a person is truly offended by another player's chat, "filtering" one or two words isn't going to change the obvious meaning of the offending statement, thus the offensiveness still remains and the filter has just been invalidated.

Consider: "You're an a55hole noob loser." > "You're an ******* noob loser."

There is no difference between the two as both are obviously meant to be insulting. The fact that the insulting nature of the statement doesn't change is reason enough to simply have an ignore option.

Just my opinion of course, but again, I see little to no real logic in implementing a filter. Being completely ignored has a much more dramatic impact on asinine people, as it is generally the attention they garner from upsetting people that provides them with the motivation to do so. Remove the motivation, the behavior tends to change. For those people who don't care, my suspicion is that they don't care to the extent that it will lead to their no longer being able to play for other reasons (committing violations that leave them jailed and/or banned for periods of time).

[DustyPorViva]

Originally Posted by Cloven

I don't disagree, I just don't see the need to implement a filter where a simple ignore option should otherwise be available. If a person is truly offended by another player's chat, "filtering" one or two words isn't going to change the obvious meaning of the offending statement, thus the offensiveness still remains and the filter has just been invalidated.

Consider: "You're an a55hole noob loser." > "You're an ******* noob loser."

There is no difference between the two as both are obviously meant to be insulting. The fact that the insulting nature of the statement doesn't change is reason enough to simply have an ignore option.

Just my opinion of course, but again, I see little to no real logic in implementing a filter. Being completely ignored has a much more dramatic impact on asinine people, as it is generally the attention they garner from upsetting people that provides them with the motivation to do so. Remove the motivation, the behavior tends to change. For those people who don't care, my suspicion is that they don't care to the extent that it will lead to their no longer being able to play for other reasons (committing violations that leave them jailed and/or banned for periods of time).

Because there are varying degrees of what people want to tolerate? Some people just don't like to hear cursing, it doesn't mean they don't ever want to hear what a person has to say. Most of the time it doesn't even come down to insults. Sometimes people just don't like to hear/see the words, whether they are meant in an insulting way or not. If this is a private thing, why does it matter to anyone else what this person wants to censor for their own personal benefit?