Scamming Rule?

Torankusu · #1 07-28-2001, 10:24 PM

See if the person whom was scammed had any
witnesses. Also, talk to the scammer and see if he scammed
him, they will usually brag about it and tell you they did it. If they
do admit to it, tell an admin (such as NightLord or Mr. Bear),
and have them return the items to the person scammed.
Provide accountnames for the scammed and the scammer,
along with the items that need to be taken away and given to
whomever, and the situation will be resolved quickly.

I was PMed this by Graal Warrior after i scammed few people (un-aware of the "new rule" since it is not on the rules site.) I think such rules should be accepted/approved by Stefan (If they already aren't) since this is an issue he has commented on with "Scamming is not illegal."

waar · #2 07-28-2001, 10:28 PM

SCAMMING SHOULD NOT BE ILLEGAL

THIS IS WHY I DID NOT WANT TO SPONSOR GRAALWARRIOR

SDFIUGDSKGLHSDKGKLG

Torankusu · #3 07-28-2001, 10:33 PM

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Originally posted by waar
SCAMMING SHOULD NOT BE ILLEGAL

YES. WHEN I PM THE LINE "okay, but you have to drop hat first" THEY SHOULD KNOW IT IS AN OBVIOUS SCAM.

View GraalOnline Profile · #4 07-28-2001, 10:34 PM

GraalWarrior is a lamer, he would never use proper grammar like that, Torankusu. Today he was like "marle wazup wit what u said yesturday"

RawPower · #5 07-28-2001, 10:34 PM

(Beowulf)
If Police witness the scam, they should take action. If these were medieval times and someone stole in front a law-enforcer, then action would have been taken. Same rules should apply here.

manton · #6 07-28-2001, 10:35 PM

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Originally posted by QueenGarnet
GraalWarrior is a lamer, he would never use proper grammar like that, Torankusu. Today he was like "marle wazup wit what u said yesturday"

Isn't GraalWarrior the guy from JPA that you would always have on ignore?

GraalWarrior2k1 · #7 07-28-2001, 10:36 PM

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Originally posted by QueenGarnet
GraalWarrior is a lamer, he would never use proper grammar like that, Torankusu. Today he was like "marle wazup wit what u said yesturday"

Thats is a lie, i said "GraalWarrior (Police) (7/28/01 9:27:05 AM):
Marle, what was that yesturday?"

waar · #8 07-28-2001, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawPower
(Beowulf)
If Police witness the scam, they should take action. If these were medieval times and someone stole in front a law-enforcer, then action would have been taken. Same rules should apply here.

this is not medieval times. graal is not based in medieval times.

RawPower · #9 07-28-2001, 10:37 PM

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Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1

Thats is a lie, i said "GraalWarrior (Police) (7/28/01 9:27:05 AM):
Marle, what was that yesturday?"

(Beowulf)
"Thats is a lie" ROFFEL!!

GraalWarrior2k1 · #10 07-28-2001, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawPower
(Beowulf)
If Police witness the scam, they should take action. If these were medieval times and someone stole in front a law-enforcer, then action would have been taken. Same rules should apply here.

Yes Torankusu, i saw you scam Hype.

Torankusu · #11 07-28-2001, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by QueenGarnet
GraalWarrior is a lamer, he would never use proper grammar like that, Torankusu."

That rule that he PMed me was made by Iracious.

RawPower · #12 07-28-2001, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by waar

this is not medieval times. graal is not based in medieval times.

(Beowulf)
Regardless what era it takes place in, any place that has law enforcement officers wouldn't just stand by and say "Hey look at that guy run off with the other guy's hat."

RawPower · #13 07-28-2001, 10:40 PM

Toranksu you dont get it, two Police officers witnessed the scam. Your only complaining because you havent been in their position yet. How would you feel if you were broke and trying to sell hats to get money and then some jerk comes up and steals the hat and runs off. Your only turning to the forums for support from your friends, this is such a feeble arguement, you were punished and thats that. I suggest you avoid scamming others if you dont want to have this kind of conflict again.

Torankusu · #14 07-28-2001, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawPower

(Beowulf)
Regardless what era it takes place in, any place that has law enforcement officers wouldn't just stand by and say "Hey look at that guy run off with the other guy's hat."

Yes but if God (or Stefan) says it is okay, then it is okay!@

Torankusu · #15 07-28-2001, 10:41 PM

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Originally posted by RawPower
Toranksu you dont get it, two Police officers witnessed the scam. Your only complaining because you havent been in their position yet. How would you feel if you were broke and trying to sell hats to get money and then some jerk comes up and steals the hat and runs off. Your only turning to the forums for support from your friends, this is such a feeble arguement, you were punished and thats that. I suggest you avoid scamming others if you dont want to have this kind of conflict again.

hey guy. my cash money is gone.

And no, that was not my intention. I felt like bringing this rule that is not even posted on the police website -> rules to the Public, because the police are trying to take action, when no one is aware of the rule.

I could care less about support from friends, seeing as my punishment was turned into an "okay, sheesh" by Graal Warrior.

RawPower · #16 07-28-2001, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu

Yes but if God (or Stefan) says it is okay, then it is okay!@

(Beowulf)
And you're one of the idiotic *******s that makes Graal2001 no fun anymore.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #17 07-28-2001, 10:43 PM

Torankusu, i did nothing wrong. In the rules it says that if i witness it or i get enough complaints, which both happened, then i can take action.

Torankusu · #18 07-28-2001, 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1
Torankusu, i did nothing wrong. In the rules it says that if i witness it or i get enough complaints, which both happened, then i can take action.

You attempted to enforce the Rule i have posted at the beginning of this thread against me, when NO PLAYERS i am sure are aware of it.

Torankusu · #19 07-28-2001, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawPower

(Beowulf)
And you're one of the idiotic *******s that makes Graal2001 no fun anymore.

I am an idiotic ******* because i have a point?

If the Owner/Co-Owner of the game and server says scamming is legal, IT IS LEGAL!

GraalWarrior2k1 · #20 07-28-2001, 10:46 PM

What?! no, i had a few people complaining about you, and then when Hype said asked if i could watch a "trade" between you guys, i imediatly got over there, and what did you do? You ran off with the hat. Then later i got about 10 more people complaining...

RawPower · #21 07-28-2001, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu

hey guy. my cash money is gone.

And no, that was not my intention. I felt like bringing this rule that is not even posted on the police website -> rules to the Public, because the police are trying to take action, when no one is aware of the rule.

I could care less about support from friends, seeing as my punishment was turned into an "okay, sheesh" by Graal Warrior.

Listen here, DONT SCAM AND YOU WONT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.

"Beware of scammers, we can't do anything about the scammer unless you have a police witness, or enough people complain about the person. "

UNLESS YOU HAVE A POLICE WITNESS

2 Policemen saw you scam, then we got more complaints from others and you denied it. We jailed you for a short time and your still complaining. End of discussion your out of jail..

RawPower · #22 07-28-2001, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu

I am an idiotic ******* because i have a point?

If the Owner/Co-Owner of the game and server says scamming is legal, IT IS LEGAL!

(Beowulf)
it is legal UNLESS YOU HAVE A POLICE WITNESS
God you're thick.

Torankusu · #23 07-28-2001, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1
What?! no, i had a few people complaining about you, and then when Hype said asked if i could watch a "trade" between you guys, i imediatly got over there, and what did you do? You ran off with the hat. Then later i got about 10 more people complaining...

ok.

View GraalOnline Profile · #24 07-28-2001, 10:47 PM

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Originally posted by Torankusu

That rule that he PMed me was made by Iracious.

the rules were made by nightlord...

GraalWarrior2k1 · #25 07-28-2001, 10:48 PM

Yes true, it is legal, but are some rules against it, and im sure Stefan supports them.

View GraalOnline Profile · #26 07-28-2001, 10:48 PM

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Originally posted by manton

Isn't GraalWarrior the guy from JPA that you would always have on ignore?

yes

Torankusu · #27 07-28-2001, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawPower

(Beowulf)
it is legal UNLESS YOU HAVE A POLICE WITNESS
God you're thick.

Only 1 was witnessed by a police that had no clue as to what was being traded and for what.

Yes, i understand the warning that they give.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #28 07-28-2001, 10:49 PM

Lol, that was months ago..

GraalWarrior2k1 · #29 07-28-2001, 10:50 PM

Warning, yes.. i asked you to stop.

Torankusu · #30 07-28-2001, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by thotijn2

the rules were made by nightlord...

It makes a difference? it was not posted anywhere, and Police are trying to enforce players that are un-aware of the newly made rule, so it is still wrong.

View GraalOnline Profile · #31 07-28-2001, 10:50 PM

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Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1
Lol, that was months ago..

YOU'RE SUCH A *****
YOU EVEN HAVING THE AUDACITY OF POSTING HERE MAKES ME SICK
GO AWAY
GO AWAY
GO AWAY

CONFORM.

RawPower · #32 07-28-2001, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu

Only 1 was witnessed by a police that had no clue as to what was being traded and for what.

Yes, i understand the warning that they give.

Your obviously NOT PAYING ATTENTION! I pmed you asking you not to scam people and I got even more complaints afterwards, you denied it so you get even worse punishment.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #33 07-28-2001, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu

It makes a difference? it was not posted anywhere, and Police are trying to enforce players that are un-aware of the newly made rule, so it is still wrong.

See that the part that got me, if they dont post them anywhere, but they enforce them... it doesn't make sense, but i was still doing what iracious told me to do.

Torankusu · #34 07-28-2001, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1
Warning, yes.. i asked you to stop.

I was talking about the Warning:

>>Beware of scammers, we can't do anything about the scammer unless you have a police witness, or enough people complain about the person. <<
(Note: It does not say it can be corrected by administration or is jailable.)

GraalWarrior2k1 · #35 07-28-2001, 10:52 PM

Marle, i dont want to deal with you... leave me alone.

View GraalOnline Profile · #36 07-28-2001, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1
Marle, i dont want to deal with you... leave me alone.

View GraalOnline Profile · #37 07-28-2001, 10:53 PM

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Originally posted by GraalWarrior2k1
Marle, i dont want to deal with you... leave me alone.

OH, THE PERSON WHO MADE SEX JOKES ABOUT ME IS SCARED
OH, THE PERSON WHO LIED ABOUT HIS AGE IS SCARED
OH, THE PERSON WHO IS A ***** IS ****ING SCARED!!!!
GO AWAY,

Torankusu · #38 07-28-2001, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RawPower

Your obviously NOT PAYING ATTENTION! I pmed you asking you not to scam people and I got even more complaints afterwards, you denied it so you get even worse punishment.

Being let off is a punishment? I am paying attention. i have stopped. They are complaining because nothing is being done, which is a good thing.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #39 07-28-2001, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Torankusu

>>Beware of scammers, we can't do anything about the scammer unless you have a police witness, or enough people complain about the person. <<
(Note: It does not say it can be corrected by administration or is jailable.)

But that "anything" could mean many things.

GraalWarrior2k1 · #40 07-28-2001, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by QueenGarnet

OH, THE PERSON WHO MADE SEX JOKES ABOUT ME IS SCARED
OH, THE PERSON WHO LIED ABOUT HIS AGE IS SCARED
OH, THE PERSON WHO IS A ***** IS ****ING SCARED!!!!
GO AWAY,

lol i was 22...